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CINGULAR adding 230 cell sites in North Carolina

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  1. jones

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    Cingular to invest $115M in N.C. network
    Wednesday July 27, 12:31 pm ET

    Cingular Wireless says it is investing $115 million this year on its North Carolina network, part of a $6.2 billion national capital spending plan.
    The Atlanta-based company says it is adding 230 cell sites in North Carolina, more than any year since 1996.

    In the Charlotte area, Cingular says it will enhance coverage along Interstate 85 near North Graham Street, W.T Harris Boulevard and Old Concord Road and around SouthPark mall. It also is adding capacity in Huntersville near Beatties Ford Road.

    Cingular operates the nation's largest voice and data network with more than 51 million subscribers. It has more than 2,300 employees in North Carolina, including about 1,960 at call centers in Fayetteville and Greensboro.

    Cingular operates 46 company-owned stores in North Carolina.

    BellSouth Corp. (NYSE:BLS - News) of Atlanta and San Antonio-based SBC Communications Inc. (NYSE:SBC - News) jointly own Cingular, which acquired AT&T Wireless earlier this year.

    Published July 27, 2005 by the Charlotte Business Journal
     
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    good lord, if they'd only fix Western NC, they'd be great. As of now, their coverage around Boone is spotty at best (fine downtown, forget it outside of town), no coverage in SW NC (especially Cherokee). Verizon has great coverage in those very same areas. Go figure. Granted, they're low population areas, but if Verizon and Ramcell can build them out and cover them well, why can't Cingular?
     
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    This is for the whole of NC
     
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    North Carolina is a pretty big state with about 100 counties Jones.

    People living in Western North Carolina will often not visit eastern North Carolina, as it's quicker for them to drive to the beaches of South Carolina for vacation.

    Verizon has the mountians built out pretty well, the piedmont area is good as well, the sand hills and the coast they are building out 300 sites this year.

    Across the Carolina's Cingular doesn't own any market share the big players are either Verizon, Alltel or US Cellular...

    What I think would be interesting is to see how much of the $115 million is capacity adds and how much is additional coverage.


    I find it interesting that Cingular has call centers in the Carolina's... I'm not certain, but with Cingular and Verizon call centers spread across the Carolina's I would almost bet that wireless employees are over 10,000 in call centers alone in these two states.
     
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    The Way i understand this
    is Just for 2005 Capital Spending.

    So they Havent Release their
    2006 Capital Spending for this State of NC.

    Who knows if it's more or less
    for the Year 2006.
     
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    Perhaps they'll pour some of their 2006 cash into expanding coverage in western NC where they already have licenses. Their coverage leaves a LOT to be desired down there. CDMA is the way to go if you frequent that area. Ramcell, Verizon and USCC have done a pretty good job overall of covering the area. My Sprint phone never had problems getting signal through the mountains where my friend's Cingular phone was basically dead for most of the trip.
     
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    Then why is VZW showing "NO COVERAGE"
    in that area
    in their Coverage Locator?
     
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    in what area? Verizon covers a fair portion of Western NC, but not all of it... That which they don't cover themselves is covered by Ramcell and/or US Cellular.
     
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    Between Verizon and it's roaming partners NC is pretty well covered.

    [​IMG]
     
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    I don't understand it either...to me it's almost as if someone at Cingular just hates SE TN and WNC. :headscrat

    -SC
     
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    Maybe a higher up for Cingular got mauled by a bear in Cherokee Nat'l Forest or something? No coverage in Cherokee is positively asinine. There's a casino there so it's not like there's no traffic through the city or any demand for cell service there. I went down there with my Sprint phone and had fantastic coverage in and around Cherokee. My friend's Cingular phone was a really nice clock/paperweight. :D
     
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    230 new sites in North Carolina in only one year? Wow they must be awfully good at battling NIMBY's. ;)
     
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    It's the southeast... we don't really have NIMBY's here. We have cell towers plopped down all over the place here in TN and no one seems to care. You'd be absolutely shocked to see how close to apartment complexes, businesses, farms, mountains, etc. that we have cell towers. The only time people get NIMBY-ism here is when someone wants to build a road. :p
     
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    according to Cingular press Releases
    their Goal is access to more than 45,000 Cell Sites
    nationwide by 2006.

    Hopefully it will include those ares.
     
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    I really wondered if Cingular could contiune to build at the rate they were last year. This year they are building more at faster pace. :)
     
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    So they say. It's easy to put out press releases with their future plans but many of those sites end up falling out due to about a 20% attrition rate.
     
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    perhaps, but at least NIMBY's aren't much of a problem in these parts. :)
     
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    yup thats pretty damn good... Nice coverage... I can't belive how much Cingular is adding or plan to add...
     
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    Cingular really does need to work on expanding western NC coverage. Everytime ive been up there with someone using cingular they always have to borrow my Sprint phone to make calls.

    Sprint actually has even more coverage in West NC than Verizon does. For example, I was sitting in one of my relatives homes and they had no service on their verizon phone but I had 2 bars with digital roam (obviousley cingular had no service too)
     
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    your statement is somewhat misleading... Sprint doesn't have more native coverage than Verizon does... it's just that Sprint roams on US Cellular and Ramcell along with Verizon... I don't know that Verizon roams on Ramcell (I've heard they don't play nice).

    Edit: as far as Cingular goes, I just found this Press Release .. Looks like they actually added coverage in Murphy, NC... not bad, now if they'll just extend that coverage over into Ducktown and Copperhill (and the rest of Polk Co.).
     
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    now that sprint includes roaming in their fair and flexable plans its not really anymore misleading than verizon acting like their extended network is their own. also, apparently verizon doesnt roam on carolina west wireless in the area i was in because my sprint phone was picking up their signal and my family members verizon phone had no service.
     
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    I agree in that respect... it does seem to me that Sprint "plays nice" with more carriers than Verizon does. Amusingly, in many areas Verizon will not roam on Sprint at all yet Sprint will gladly roam on Verizon if necessary.
     
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    yeah just like when they changed the prl to prefer analog over sprints network in parts of kentucky. it seems like with each new verizon prl that comes out they keep on taking sprint out of it
     
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    Luckily for Verizon customers, Ramcell is turning up CDMA in southeastern KY, Bluegrass has had CDMA for awhile and Appalachian Wireless has CDMA in eastern KY as well (farther north than what Ramcell covers). As far as Western NC goes, it doesn't appear that Ramcell is in the PRL for that area, however Carolina West is. US Cellular's Asheville SID is in Sprint's PRL but not Verizon's. But hey, at least they have roaming partners. Cingular is just plain SOL as there aren't any more GSM carriers in western NC. They're pretty much going at it alone.
     
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    Wish granted, near perfect reception around town, gets spotty about 5 miles into NC from Ducktown but going south into georgia is excellent.
     
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    Sounds great.

    :D :D
     
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    Hey what can I say, I'm not exactly sure where the tower is for Copperhill and Ducktown but I believe it's in McKaysville, TN, it works on 68 that much is for sure although I'm not quite certain about the ocoee's (chances are it doesn't work in there.) As far as Murphy is concerned, there's good reception all the way into Andrews, NC from one tower (it sits on the peak of Fain Mountain, I know one of my friends owns the mountain and the tower cingular put it's receivers on.) I chose cingular because they are actively expanding their network and I work out of town a lot, so as the arguement says gotta chose what's right for you and it was right for me.
     
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    They are 1900-only there. It takes more towers and more time to build out as I am sure you know.
     
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    First of all nobody is going to work around Ocoee it's in the Chreokee National Forest. Also because Cingular is 1900 in the Carolina's and most of East Tennessee (old DCS markets) they need more sites to cover the same area. However East Tennessee and Western Carolina are getting money (finally) to build out alot of these areas. Because 1900 PCS carriers are relatively new to the game they are behind the old cellular markets in theor buildouts. Things are getting better for Cingular.:D
     

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