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Can you hear me now? Analog cellular networks shutting down next week

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  1. SmArTeStChIlD421

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    Can you hear me now? Analog cellular networks shutting down next week
    By David Chartier | Published: February 15, 2008 - 12:33PM CT

    This weekend may finally be the perfect time to drag Grandma into your local mobile phone shop to update that brick she keeps in her purse along with the Circus Peanuts. Come Monday, the FCC is allowing cellular providers to shut down their analog networks, and most of the major players are planning to do just that. Owners of devices ranging from cell phones to home alarm systems and even in-car assistance services may be in for a rude surprise.

    InfoWorld reports that both AT&T Wireless and Verizon Wireless, the only two major providers with nationwide AMPS (Advanced Mobile Phone System) analog networks, will be shutting their networks down on Monday. Even most small, rural providers appear ready to pull the plug on the deprecated technology in favor of all-digital networks.


    Both AT&T and Verizon both profess they have a "very, very small" number of customers still clinging to analog service. Verizon's estimate that "less than one percent" of its roughly 60 million subscribers are using analog phones means that there could still be almost 600,000 customers that will find themselves without service come next week.

    Analog cell phone owners aren't the only ones with something to worry about come Monday. Plenty of other devices, such as home security systems and car alarm services, are still using analog transmitters. Home alarm systems may especially be affected, as providers report having customers in areas with little to no GSM reception (though that number is estimated at just under 400,000 as of six months ago).

    GM's OnStar service for its cars is in the middle of a rocky transition too, as the company preemptively shut down its analog service on January 1, 2008. Though GM began warning its analog customers last year, upgrading a car with a digital transmitter can cost hundreds of dollars, which customers must pay out of pocket. Upset over the costly change, two OnStar customers in Pennsylvania have filed a lawsuit against GM and are hoping to turn it into a class action.

    After Verizon, AT&T, and Alltel pull the plug on their networks next week, though, only US Cellular and a handful of small, rural providers will still be going the analog route (Sprint Nextel and T-Mobile's networks are all digital). US Cellular plans to shut its analog network down by year end, and the smaller carriers will eventually follow suit, meaning that customers with obsolete handsets will be forced to enter the digital age at last.

    Can you hear me now? Analog cellular networks shutting down next week
     
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    I haven't used an analog system in over four years....
     
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    lol my work phone has the option for analog I turned it on and made a call wow it won't be missed in my book. On the flip side though it is sad to see a pioneering technology go away
     
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    Good riddance to analog. I have to ask: Where do the authors get their info? Although VZW & AT&T are unplugging their AMPS networks next week, Alltel is shutting down its analog in three phases starting in March according to their website...
     
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    Yea, Alltel is NOT pulling the plug on Monday. 600,000 customers + however many att has.
    Great customer service guys!!! You people have stats on what analog sites have high usage. Leave those on!!!

    Analog bag phone were among the most universal thing ever created. They had accessories that would allow them to do just about anything from weather stations to credit card terminals at the swap meet.

    I hope the call centers are just FLOODED with calls.
    The bad thing about this is it can take someones livelihood or safety net away.
     
  6. M in LA

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    It's not so much that analog cellular is being turned off completely, more that cell companies are no longer forced to operate and maintain it anymore. Though for most of us, analog is gone for good.
     
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    The current analog equipment needs to go as its past its shelf life.

    What would be cool is if you could somehow have analog capablilties on the newer GSM, CDMA and UMTS cabinets. It wouldnt be much just a little cabinet that ties in to the GSM, CDMA, UMTS BTS and rides on the newer technologies backbone network.

    With GSM I think you could make a Hybrid radio at the cell site that may be able to do it but the manufactures arent thinking backwards compatible to analog just existing 2G networks.

    I agree untill sufficient Digital is available Analog should stay up but from a network outlook the equipment is not effiicient and its expensive to run mulitple networks.
     
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    it's spring cleaning..........its gotta be done some time..........personally im glad to see analog go but yeah we need to have solutions in place for things like those security systems and OnStar systems
     
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    :crying: i still cant evan get cdma, tried every cdma phone i could find :(
     
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    goodby analog, you served us well.
     
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    Awww... You can't get GSM either?
     
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    I have never been on an analog phone call. But then again I didn't get my first cell phone until 2000
     
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    well mabey i'll borrow my friends t-moble phone, its hard as heck to get any service here, particulary were i live, big hill with apartments to the left, and the coast to the right and back of my house. on verizons coverage map it said its digital, but in reality its not. the bay area is full of hills wich greatly affects coverage.
     
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    Have you tried an external antenna and an amplifier? It might help pull in that digital signal.
     
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    Would be nice if you could get a CDMA phone in Field Test (DEBUG mode) just to see if your phone sees a signal. You could be on the fringe of CDMA coverage which has a limit of usually 30 miles but depends on the Network Engineers what they set it to.

    Your nearest tower may have both CDMA and Analog but analog is not limited to a certain distance like CDMA and GSM.
     
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    I was going to say I have been on a CDMA tower 45-50 miles away before.
     
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    i dont live in a rural area were towers can hit up to 45 miles. the towers here output less power. rodeo CA is a good sized town, but its got alot of hills. found an lg vx6100, the service code is 000000, im gona put it in field test mode to see what i get.
     
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    The CDMA LGs have easily accessible debug screens... This is what I have been doing to test AT&T analog LOL
     
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    here is how to get into in on a vx6100
    goto menu
    then hit zero
    it will ask for service code
    for verizon its 000000
    that should do it.
     
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    just wondering, what would a weak Rx look like? im getting -120
     
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    I think -105 to -107 is where calls get dropped.

    If you had an external antenna and an amp you might be able to get signal.
     
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    -120 Means you're getting no signal, zip, zero, ziltch!

    That's typically the threshold. Some manufacturers will take it as low as -110 though -100 is roughly the practical operating limit.
     
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    the neg 120 is when i stand on my front yard
    in my house i get -132
     
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    So long, Analog!!! Can't say that I knew too much of you, but good luck & good riddance!!! May we meet up again someday???:browani:
     

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