Welcome to Our WirelessAdvisor Community!

You are viewing our forums as a GUEST. Please join us so you can post and view all the pictures.
Registration is easy, fast and FREE!

BlackBerry Leads, iPhone Follows U.S. Smartphone Sales

Discussion in 'Wireless News' started by SteveW, Jun 1, 2008.

  1. SteveW

    SteveW Battery mgmt is my life
    Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2002
    Messages:
    2,095
    Likes Received:
    53
    Location:
    Cambridge, MA
    My Phone:
    T-Mo G2, LG CU500
    Wireless Provider(s):
    T-Mobile
    BlackBerry Leads, iPhone Follows U.S. Smartphone Sales

    The reason for RIM's success? It's been able to broaden the appeal of the BlackBerry to more than just professionals, an IDC report found.

    By Marin Perez
    InformationWeek
    May 30, 2008 07:57 PM

    Research in Motion sold the most smartphones in the United States for the first quarter of 2008, more than doubling the nearest competitor's market share, an IDC report found.

    The report found RIM (NSDQ: RIMM) grabbed 44.5% of the market for the first three months of 2008, up from 35.1% in the previous quarter.

    RIM has successfully been able to broaden the appeal of the BlackBerry to more than just professionals, said IDC analyst Ramon Llamas. With new consumer-friendly devices like the BlackBerry Thunder and the BlackBerry Bold, RIM is well-positioned to be a strong presence in the "prosumer" segment.

    Apple's iPhone came in second place with 19.2% of the market in the first quarter, a drop from 26.7% the quarter before.

    One reason may be that the fourth quarter included the holiday shopping season. More recently, consumers may be wary of purchasing an iPhone when there's reportedly a 3G version right around the corner (although, there's a report of a delay).

    Palm found itself in third place with 13.4% of sales, up from 7.9% in the fourth quarter. One key factor was the release of the Centro in February, IDC said.

    Samsung was in the fourth slot, with 8.6% of the market, up from 5.1% the previous quarter.

    Things weren't as positive for Motorola (NYSE: MOT) or High Tech Computer. Continuing on a downward trend, Motorola dropped from 7.5% share in the first quarter to 2.6% in the first. HTC's share fell to 4.1% from 7.9% in the previous quarter, the report found.

    IDC did not reveal the total number of smartphones sold in either quarter.

    Original...



    SW
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  2. RJB

    RJB Gold Senior Member
    Senior Member

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2004
    Messages:
    7,069
    Cell Tower Picture Gallery:
    99
    Likes Received:
    36
    My Phone:
    iPhone
    Wireless Provider(s):
    AT&T
    To bad RIM cant get non data phones going on the side. That do not require a BB plan.
     
  3. SteveW

    SteveW Battery mgmt is my life
    Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2002
    Messages:
    2,095
    Likes Received:
    53
    Location:
    Cambridge, MA
    My Phone:
    T-Mo G2, LG CU500
    Wireless Provider(s):
    T-Mobile
    There are several interesting things about this to me. First, Nokia the largest mobile manufacturer, isn't in it at all. Nokia has a well-regarded smartphone OS, lots of smartphone models and even some US retail stores, but apparently they're not selling in any appreciable numbers. I guess some of the Samsungs use the S60 OS, but I'm sure that's just a bit of the revenue that Nokia would like to have.

    Second, Motorola hasn't been able to move into the high-priced part of the market and is evidently in an overall decline. Third, HTC, a company that concentrates on smartphones, is somewhat lower than I would have thought. HTC is the OEM for many of the carrier brands, so I wonder if these numbers count those phone models.


    SW
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  4. RJB

    RJB Gold Senior Member
    Senior Member

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2004
    Messages:
    7,069
    Cell Tower Picture Gallery:
    99
    Likes Received:
    36
    My Phone:
    iPhone
    Wireless Provider(s):
    AT&T
    I really think Nokia would love to have larger sales in the USA. But it seems like they cant attract people like they used to. I know in the late 90's into the early 2000's nokia phones were everywhere. I know the nokia e71 should be coming to AT&T hopefully that will be a hit and take off.
     
  5. M in LA

    M in LA Mobile 28 Years Plus
    Super Moderator Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2004
    Messages:
    8,053
    Likes Received:
    347
    Location:
    Los Angeles, CA
    My Phone:
    iPhone 13 Pro Max, XS Max
    Wireless Provider(s):
    Verizon (since 1994)
    I'm not surprised RIM is doing so well. They have a variety of phones to suit different tastes, they have phones will all major carriers, and they wisely refresh older models.

    With the Bold coming out soon, RIM continues to improve itself. The Thunder should be interesting since it will be a Verizon exclusive here in the States. I wonder how the "exclusive carrier" approach will work for them with the Thunder.

    The iPhone is good, but it needs to be refreshed. Hopefully the new version will address many of the shortcomings of the first version.

    Sprint has a "Instinct versus iPhone" comparison teaser on their site. All of the things the Instinct beat the iPhone on are differences that the new version will improve on. The Instinct is a new phone. The iPhone is a year old. Not really a fair comparison. But the Instinct should do quite well for Sprint and Samsung.

    As far as the lack of Nokias. I can't remember the last time I saw a Nokia smartphone on AT&T's site. They seem to be the only carrier getting these phones. So I'm not surprised Nokia was a non-factor in this report.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  6. walkguru

    walkguru Wireless Guru
    Senior Member

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2005
    Messages:
    6,084
    Cell Tower Picture Gallery:
    28
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    Oklahoma
    My Phone:
    iphone 3gs 32black
    Wireless Provider(s):
    cingular,family plan w/4 lines
    Wirelessly posted (Walkguru's: Opera/9.50 (J2ME/MIDP; Opera Mini/4.1.11328/308; U; en))

    i wonder where the treo fits in here.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  7. RadioFoneGuy

    RadioFoneGuy Powered by HTC FUZE
    Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2007
    Messages:
    1,235
    Cell Tower Picture Gallery:
    6
    Likes Received:
    3
    Location:
    Everywhere.
    My Phone:
    Nokia 6103, 6010, 2260
    Wireless Provider(s):
    The death star formally known as Cell One.
    And to imagine if RIM woundnt have won that law suit a couple years ago they would have been done.

    RIM was smart they started out with Corporate MS Outlook support thru a secure server. At my company there was a internal document that says do not use Iphone for email because of the previous lack of security.

    With Iphones latest update it takes advantage of MS Outlook so that will help.

    About Nokia the were my favorite phones for reliable and call quality but I have been disappointed in their lack of Smart phones. I have a Nokia 6682 which is sort of a Berry Knock off and is a great phone with tons of 3rd party apps due to the openness of Symbian.

    I still cant belive you cant do MMS on an IPHONE.
     
  8. RJB

    RJB Gold Senior Member
    Senior Member

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2004
    Messages:
    7,069
    Cell Tower Picture Gallery:
    99
    Likes Received:
    36
    My Phone:
    iPhone
    Wireless Provider(s):
    AT&T
    Third..................
     
  9. zamboni77

    zamboni77 Supreme CadGuru
    Senior Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2002
    Messages:
    833
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Northeast PA
    My Phone:
    Droid Turbo BN
    Wireless Provider(s):
    Verizon who else?
    Treos are done IMHO.
    Non-touch screen devices will soon be taking over the touch screen ppc devices.
    Treos are unstable. Had one, and constantly had to restore from backups.

    BB's are still in the lead, but their sales aren't what they used to be, no?
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  10. SteveW

    SteveW Battery mgmt is my life
    Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2002
    Messages:
    2,095
    Likes Received:
    53
    Location:
    Cambridge, MA
    My Phone:
    T-Mo G2, LG CU500
    Wireless Provider(s):
    T-Mobile

    Not to defend or knock Palm, but regular readers will be aware that Treos have shipped with two different operating systems for a while (Palm OS 5.x and Windows Mobile). A report of instability would be more useful if at least the OS were specified and whether built-in or add-on applications seemed to be the issue.


    SW
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  11. walkguru

    walkguru Wireless Guru
    Senior Member

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2005
    Messages:
    6,084
    Cell Tower Picture Gallery:
    28
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    Oklahoma
    My Phone:
    iphone 3gs 32black
    Wireless Provider(s):
    cingular,family plan w/4 lines
    Wirelessly posted (Walkguru's: Opera/9.50 (J2ME/MIDP; Opera Mini/4.1.11328/514; U; en))

    my sprint centro is a nice phone. better than a bb for my use. just my opinion of course.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  12. Gamer03

    Gamer03 Technology Aficionado
    Super Moderator Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2003
    Messages:
    9,065
    Cell Tower Picture Gallery:
    74
    Likes Received:
    249
    Location:
    The Florida Everglades
    My Phone:
    Motorola X Pure
    Wireless Provider(s):
    Verizon Wireless
    Agreed. I have had both a Treo WM and two Treo's with Palm OS. Of the three that I have owned, my current Palm Treo 755p is the best. I have found that Palm OS is definitely more stable than Palm WM (at least when comparing Treo's with Sprint and Verizon).
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  13. charlyee

    charlyee Ultimate Insanity
    Super Moderator Senior Member

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2002
    Messages:
    9,906
    Cell Tower Picture Gallery:
    135
    Likes Received:
    1,586
    Location:
    SE Wisconsin
    My Phone:
    iPhone X
    Wireless Provider(s):
    at&t/Airtel/Turkcell
    Good point Steve.

    Although I have a WM 6.0 Palm, as you can see from my custom title and the dozen or more times I have said "Luv my Treo", I do really love it. I have had my Treo longer than any primary GSM or CDMA device which also speaks highly for it.

    In my opinion any problems that I have had with it stem from add-on application. As you know there are many WM & Palm application out there and not all of them are stable or work right.

    Like you, I am a Palm OS person myself, having started with the original Palm Pilot, succeded by the Palm IIIxe and the Palm Vx, before getting sidetracked by the WM IPAQ series. I was looking forward to getting back to Palm OS. Although that did not happen there are many "Palm things" in my Treo that other WM devices do not have. Here is a post on it that maybe of interest:

    http://forums.wirelessadvisor.com/m...hones/63878-treo-750-review-3.html#post492938


    I for one, am really looking forward to the Treo 850. :).
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  14. SteveW

    SteveW Battery mgmt is my life
    Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2002
    Messages:
    2,095
    Likes Received:
    53
    Location:
    Cambridge, MA
    My Phone:
    T-Mo G2, LG CU500
    Wireless Provider(s):
    T-Mobile
    That's true, although both OSs could handle application issues more gracefully. I'm not a WM expert, but it has a reputation for being a big memory hog that doesn't always release unused memory. Palm OS 5.x, OTOH, has a reputation for getting ever more fragile as new features (particularly multimedia) have been added. The prevailing opinion in the programmer community is that Palm OS badly needs a complete rewrite in order to return to its lean and elegant roots. I'm sure this rewrite will come along any decade now. :rolleyes:

    Didn't have that.
    Had both of those. Actually, I still have the Vx, fully charged, in its dock. I just never use it.

    I'd wait for the issues to be fixed in the 855. ;)


    SW
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...

Share This Page

Copyright 1997-2023 Wireless Advisor™, LLC. All rights reserved. All registered and unregistered trademarks are the property of their respective holders.
WirelessAdvisor.com is not associated by ownership or membership with any cellular, PCS or wireless service provider companies and is not meant to be an endorsement of any company or service. Some links on these pages may be paid advertising or paid affiliate programs.

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice