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BEST WIRELESS WEB FOR THE PRICE? NJ and PA

Discussion in 'Northeastern US Wireless Forum' started by Guest, May 12, 2002.

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    which service has the best wireless web and is not too expensive
     
  2. aiwapro

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    Definately Voicestream Wireless. I'm sure everybody will agree. They charge per MB, but it still isn't that expensive. What will you be using it for? Laptop? Phone? Pocket PC? PDA? Wireless Web for the phone is as little as $2.99 per MB. That is about 500 webpage screens on your phone. That's alot.

    Here is the full rate plan chart for Vociestream Wireless:
    Voicestream Wireless (ISTREAM rate plans).
    Here is also the homepage for Voicestream Wireless (ISTREAM). This page includes a demo/product tour which shows and tells you more about Voicestream's Wireless Web (ISTREAM).

    Voicestream runs on a GSM/GPRS network that averages a data rate of about 40kbps (kilobytes per second), advertises at 56kbps, and has been tested at up to 100kbps. This is also an always-on connection like Cable & DSL.
     
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    I would have to agree with that one.

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    That Voicestream tout sounds like an advertisement.

    I haven't used it but I know some people who have and are not at all happy with it.

    I've been satisfied with AT&T's Pocketnet.
    It's $14.95 per month on top of a wireless serviec plan for unlimited web access.
     
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    Cingular has a promation right now on there plans that gives you free wireless internet. The only catch is it takes off your minutes.
     
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    yes same with sprint. you can get the wireless web for free for 3 months-----but the airtime is deducted from your minutes.....and if you keep it after 3 months it is 5$ a month.
     
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    The other companies won't be doing the 'minute deduction' for wireless web for too much longer. Once they get their 3G networks (Sprint) and 2.5G networks (AT&T and Cingular) in, then they will change to 'pay by usage' aswell.

    Hey anonymous, I know that there will always be unhappy customers no matter what happens, but it's funny that you say that you have heard complaints about iSTREAM. Here is an experience from someone in the NJ/NYC area. He says that it is better than Verizon's wireless web options.

    This is a quote from someone on epinions:

    "Voicestream's iStream service in NYC/NJ
    by kweckstrom | Apr 10 '02
    Pros: GPRS service is relatively fast, and DOESN'T user your plan minutes.
    Cons: Only 10MB of data transmission per month, $39.95/mo (for laptop; cheaper of PDA and phone use)
    The Bottom Line: Price aside, this service *works*. If you don't mind the $39.95 additional charge for data services, iStream in the NYC metro area works for relatively fast Data services.
    Recommended: Yes

    NOTE: This epinion will be most useful to those who are considering Voicestream's iStream data service.

    Ok, I've been a verizon customer for a long time now in both Data and Voice categories. I have been using their CDPD products for the past 2 years, and have been relatively happy with it. The speed leaves much to be desired, but with a wee bit of patience, the data you need does in fact get there.

    Their $25/mo Unlimited PDA plan is pretty nice with an Ipaq and a PC Card sleeve, though this service does drive down your battery life. Certainly not an "all-day-long" solution, but who expects that with today's battery technology (blackberry users aside).

    I decided to take a stab at a service I never had the cojones to try before, Voicestream, the artist formerly known as Omnipoint if memory serves. Since they have GPRS someone well deployed in the NYC metro area, I figured what the heck. It's only money, i'll plink down $600 for a Bluetooth-enabled ipaq and another $450 for the T68 ericsson that everyone seems to be hyping. I picked up the Ipaq at Ecost.com and got the T68 at www.cellhut.com at pretty much competitive prices.

    I picked up the phone on my way home last night (Cellhut is here in manhattan) and put it through its usual paces. Voice calling worked very reliably! I was astounded since usually Verizon is the only game in town for reliable mobile phone service, but this seemed to fit the bill very nicely. The phone itself is tiny and light, and the voice quality was remarkably clear on my end. Having done time with Sprint PCS and AT&T wireless in the past, this is a service that actually has a chance of fulfilling my jaded wireless needs

    Last night I figured out how to get Voicestream's Istream working on my notebook with the phone. Configuring the phone with the T39's instructions at voicestream got me close enough to configure the T68. The important part was the dialing sequence of "*9***1#" or something like that, which basically connects the phone to the iStream GPRS service. Since my notebook doesn't have bluetooth, I did it over the IR port, which worked pretty painlessly. Inside my house in NJ, it worked well (I live roughly 2 miles north of Giants Memorial Stadium, the landmark erected to mark the burial location of the late Jimmy Hoffa).

    Upon pulling up my web browser, I was immediately taken to the iStream configuration page, allowing you to configure the type of screen you use (PDA/Notebook), and image compression/quality settings (fast, faster, fastest, fastest having the worst image quality). Apparently, the iStream service intercepts all your webpage calls and runs 'em through their compression scheme somehow, and I must admit that pages responded far more speedily than I imagined they would. Of course, I only have CDPD and Cable Modem to go by. While it's certainly not as fast as Cable Modem, i'd say it's about what you'd expect from a modem operating somewhere between 33.6k and 56k.

    The real test came today.

    Thanks to a babysitter crisis, I had to take a hike into work late today. Fedex arrived this morning with my brand spanking new Ipaq 3870, and I immediately got to work configuring it.

    After figuring out how this bluetooth stuff works by discovering the phone and partnering with it, I was able to connect them. After some fiddling around with the Dialing properties on the Ipaq, I was able to initiate a connection to iStream via the Ipaq and the T68 using bluetooth. Satisfied that everything was working, I headed out the door to wait at the corner for one of the most miserable forms of public transportation: New Jersey Transit buses.

    Standing at the corner, I fired up my GPRS connection via the ipaq, and loaded up one of my tried and true ways to slack, Smartsoft Pocketchat's irc client (www.sspocketchat.com). I'm an irc nut, and one of my gripes with CDPD is that I would occasionally have to re-initiate my connection after being dropped off the IRC server when I lost my CDPD channel and hopped over to another. While I didn't exactly have high hopes for GPRS being much better, I just had to see what it would do.

    Now, I didn't take it easy on Voicestream, mind you. While standing on the corner waiting for my bus, I fired up a few more apps like MSN Messenger, my inbox, and Internet explorer. Yahoo.com loaded up rather quickly, again what you'd expect from a land-based modem. My inbox took roughly the same amount of time to connect to when on CDPD, but messages themselves transferred much more quickly.

    IRC isn't much of a bandwidth hog, but its connection to the irc server is a sensitive one and is very prone to disconnection if you time out. After hopping on the bus, I grabbed a seat. Phone in pocket, I hooked up my little Compaq thumb-board for some leisurely chatting.

    Driving through moonachie, I had no problem keeping a connection. Text flowed freely in #Windows2000 and #3dfx on irc's efnet. Before I knew it, carlstadt passed, east rutherford, giants stadium, and before I knew it we were in Union NJ (blah, I got a local bus). I told everyone to just keep talking because I wanted to see how this GPRS deal would hold up on my commute to work.

    At this point, I was really astounded since normally I would have disconnected at least once on CDPD. GPRS was going strong however.

    I had one last test. CDPD's last enemy. The torturous field test that sends many wireless services screaming in fear. The evil, dreaded Lincoln Tunnel.

    Normally with CDPD, my connection would die around 300ft in the tunnel. While Verizon's VOICE service would work in the tunnel, CDPD is very spotty. GPRS? Stayed connected the whole way through. No hiccups. No disconnects. No problems whatsoever.

    After pulling up into port authority, I finally disconnected and called it a bus ride and headed downtown to my daytime abode.

    Color me surprised. Voicestream's GPRS in the NJ Metro area works."
     
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    I have heard many good things about nextels wireless web

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    Go Nextel.....

    Hey, did you know that Nextel wireless web is almost just as fast a Verizon..even with their 3G technology...!! pretty cool...
     
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    pretty cool

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    I don't beleive that it is just as fast. Check out this chart made by Motorola: Data speeds

    NOTE: Nextel is "iDEN"
    Verizon is all the "1X" stuff
     
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    That was me in the above post.
     
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    Nextel Launches Faster Wireless Access to Web Content and New Wireless Modem Device; Data Compression Solution Accelerates Industry's Largest, Nationwide 2.5 G Network


    RESTON, Va., May 14, 2002 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Nextel Communications Inc. (NASDAQ:NXTL) today launched a data compression solution greatly augmenting the speed at which mobile professionals can access Internet content, general office and enterprise applications, such as e-mail and order entry.

    The new capability provides a two-to-five-fold speed increase (average speeds at 30Kbps and above average speeds reaching 75Kbps and higher) enabling PC laptop and PDA users quicker access to enterprise wireless applications.

    Nextel today also introduced the iM1100 wireless modem. The Nextel wireless modem simply plugs into any Microsoft Windows-based laptop or PDA with a Type II PCMCIA card slot. The wireless modem supports both a direct connection to the Internet using Nextel's Packet Data Network, and dial-up access via a standard circuit data connection.

    The iM1100 runs on its own battery, keeping customers connected longer without draining laptop power.

    Combined, the new network enhancements, modem device and flat rate pricing for wireless-data usage underscore Nextel's commitment to providing the industry's best end-user experience.

    Who said iDEN was a dead end.........
     
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    Well you didn't say anything about 2.5G before. You made it sound like they have always had these speeds. This is good for them, but it still doesn't compare to Verizon's speeds of 144kbps and up. Eventually they will 1.4 MBps and up. Voicestream has a PCMCIAII card too. It's is right here, and has been tested at speeds of over 100k, 120k I beleive.
     
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    Hey Aiwapro, those are "burst" speeds....you don't actually run at those hi speeds consistently.
     
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    Verizon's still runs faster than Nextel, at a minimum.
     
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    sprint pcs also has a card for laptops!!!! what is there speed especially with there 3g service just around the corner

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    Nextel isn't to far off LoL, and they don't even have 3G or GPRS.. who said iDEN was dead end???
     
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    << which service has the best wireless web and is not too expensive >>

    It depends on where you are; if it's in VIRGINIA your choice is very limited.
     

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