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AT&T promises biggest launch ever for Lumia 900

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  1. RadioRaiders

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    This phone has been available in Europe for at least a few weeks already. I played with one in the store a few times, and I have to say the User Interface is very slick, I think it will give iOS a good run for it's money in the respect of it appealing to "average" people (ie: non-techies), and being easy to use. And with AT&T pricing it aggressively at $99, it has a good chance to wind up in alot of "average" customers hands. I just wonder if AT&T/Nokia/MS will be able to generate an "iPhone-like hysteria" around it to trigger massive sales. It's hard to hit that marketing nail on the head like Apple manages to do.

     
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    I really like the specs of the phone, but I am just not at all a fan of the WP interface. I'd sooner use iOS again...and I don't see that happening any time soon, so I guess I am "stuck" with Android.
     
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    In my brief stint withWP7 on the Focus Flash, I really like how mooth, fluid, and efficient the OS was. However, it felt rather restrictive in the iOS way, it was almost eerily similar. In way even more restrictive due to the lack of apps and means of "jailbreaking".

    Having said that, I have had my eyes on the Lumia 900 ever since it was first announced and I am still interested. Nokia with WP is a great combination and I do hope it is a smashing success. :cheers:
     
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    I was a die hard Win Mobile user for many years, but the way they handled the announcement and release of WP7 left me out in the cold with a 2 month old Win Mobile 6.5 device that nobody wanted to support anymore. The day it got run over by a car was my happiest day with it by far, because it meant my suffering was over. I've been extremely happy with both Android devices I've had since (HTC Inspire 4G and HTC Vivid LTE) Microsoft would have to develop an extraordinary OS for me to even consider switching back from Android now.
     
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    I hope AT&T really does push this device. The OS is very nice, and I like that it's centered around the content, and not graphics (eye candy). But it will come down to the sales rep understanding the OS and not being bias. The only drawback is most big app developers are not making apps & games or have thrown together a app and not updating it as needed.
     
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    I read somewhere (pardon me if it was here) that there will be special incentives (extra $$$) for sales people to sell the 900 coming out of Nokia pocket and that MS has dumped a considerable amount of money into it. Whether or not anything will come out of it remains to be seen...
     
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    Was it an accident, or was a guy named Vinny from New Jersey involved? :p
     
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    Yea, the whole "app ecosystem" is kind of a funny thing. Developers don't bother to make apps for OS's with a low user base. But OS's can't get large user-bases unless they have alot of apps ;)

    I heard RIM was giving incentives to developers, like giving free PlayBooks to people who put apps in the RIM app store, I wonder if MS will do something similar? :confused:
     
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    Actually, it was my fault, no Italians were implicated in the destruction of my HTC Pure. I put my phone in my jacket pocket, jumped on my motorcycle, and left for work. When I got to work I realized I didn't have my phone, and my jacket pocket was not zipped shut. I retraced my path home, scanning the road for my phone, and praying that I forgot, and left it on the kitchen counter. I found it 300 yards from home in the middle of a 4 way intersection, and it had obviously been run over several times.
     
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    The "Death Grip" video is funny, but I'm still not buying a Windows Phone.
     
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    I doubt very highly that this device will even come close to seeing the amount of lines that are seen all over the country on iPhone release dates. Not trying to say that this phone will or won't sell well in AT&T's line up, but I don't see it taking out the iPhone any time soon. The next iPhone is sure to be another crowd pleaser as well, just as all the iPhones that have come before it.... We'll see, though. As much as I like iOS, I do like to keep an open mind when it comes to the competition.


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    It's more fun when there is comical videos involved ;)



    Some initial reviews of AT&T's Lumia 900 are in, and both CNET and Engadget are giving big thumbs-up :thumb:

    Nokia Lumia 900 Review - Watch CNET's Video Review

    Nokia Lumia 900 review -- Engadget

    I didn't realize it packed an AMOLED screen as well as LTE. With the slick Windows interface and the cheap price ($0-100), as well as the Nokia reputation, it's got a really good shot at mass adoption.
     
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    Thanks for the links. I could be very wrong here but I don't believe this will appeal to the media hungry, as there is only 16GB of on board storage with no expandable memory, it only shoots 720P video not 1080P like most other big named phones that are coming out today. Also mentioned in the review and I agree after seeing the photo quality on this new Nokia; "The designer camera optics are good, but they don't live up to the hype." Overall I would say it looks nice but way too early to tell whether it will share the spotlight with "Android or iOS" anytime soon......
     
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    I read the phonescoop review on this one. Built in battery, no memory slot and only 16Gb. Single core processor, although it runs fast.

    Maybe at the low price point they are aiming at the low market (3GS). But it seems to leave the Android high end market users in the cold.

    Sounds so much like the Nokia of old


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    I don't think they are targeting the "spec-hungry" or "phone-connoisseur" with this (altho the specs aren't too bad). I think they are targeting the "average" person who walks into the store and is looking for a nice phone at a nice price.

    I played with one in the store, and the AMOLED screen and slick Windows interface really grabs you when you pick it up. I was really impressed by that. I think it is comparable to iOS at first look, maybe even nicer (in my humble opinion :) Definitely more "friendly" to a casual user than Android). Coupled with the low price-point and massive AT&T sales push, I think it has a good chance.

    How far will it go? Who knows. Would I buy one? Probably not. The physical design didn't appeal to me, and the Windows OS, altho very visually appealing, felt restrictive and the customization abilities seemed lacking compared to Android. But again, for an average person this could be a very appealing phone. And the bulk of people buying phones aren't the "technophiles" like we at WA are ;)
     
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    Yeah, my roommate upgraded her phone last night. She wanted a smartphone, and I was trying to steer her towards the Vivid. Although she agreed the specs of the Vivid were better, the Inspire was available in red, and she wanted a phone that didn't look like everyone else's.
     
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    I read a slew of reviews on the phone today, not just the tech-sites like Gizmodo, Engadget, etc, but also main-stream sites like Time, USA Today, etc. and every one of them were giving surprisingly good reviews, and saying pretty much the same thing: that it's a very nice device, and altho may not stack up spec-wise to all the high-end iPhones and Androids, it's got a strong over-all appeal to it and offers a great experience, and that this may well be Nokia's come-back device.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/05/t...iful-phone-from-nokia-and-microsoft.html?_r=1

    Nokia Lumia 900 review

    If you jump to about 1:30 of this video you can see a demo of the user interface, which is getting rave reviews:

    Nokia Lumia 900 Review - ABC News

    PS- I just realized the Lumia 800 is what's been on sale in Europe the last few weeks/months, not the 900. But I think it's pretty much the same, at least the look the same and both run WP 7.5.
     
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    Phonescoop's wrap up is pretty positive:

    As is their intro page:
    Review: Nokia Lumia 900 for AT&T (Phone Scoop)
     
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    Not that I really have any interest in a Windows device anyway, but somehow I didn't realize until now that there is not expandable memory. I won't ever consider such a device without a minimum of 32gb of internal storage.
     
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    Expandable memory is coming to the next update "Apallo".

    Nice to see all the positive reviews. Always good to have more options to choose from. :)
     
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    Interesting, I was wondering why the Lumia screen was so eye-grabbing. It's not a "regular" AMOLED screen, but an AMOLED screen with "ClearBlack" technology:

    Why Nokia's Lumia 900 screen looks so darn good | Mobile - CNET News

    Right now in my office, if I look at my Droid screen I can not only see the screen, but my reflection in the screen as well. When I was looking at the Lumia in a store, I was wondering why I was sucked into the phones screen so much, and now I realize that it was because there was no reflection of me or anything behind me, there was only screen to look at. It really makes a big difference, albeit in a subtle way. I'd hope to see this technology spread out to other phones. (Isn't AMOLED a Samsung thing? I guess they license it out to Nokia?)
     
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    I like Phone Scoop reviews and hearing what they have to say. I don't always agree with some of things that they have to say but for the most part I think they do a good job at doing thorough review.


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    Funny you should mention the reflection issue. That was the one thing on my past Androids that I had to get used to. It is rather distracting at times to see other things on the screen when your're trying to read. Interesting that this new Nokia doesn't have that problem. Hopefully some of the other manufacturers will pick up on this type of screen.



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    +1. I think more choices like you said here is the key. It's a win/win for consumers because it keeps the competition looking and working to improve. Apple started out the same way as the Lumia. The first iPhone was only 8GB with other updated models getting 16, 32, and now a 64GB model. Unlike Apple, I hope The Nokia update goes in the direction of expandable memory which gives the customers the option to add memory depending on their needs.


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    The glare on your iPhone should be the same as the Android phones, no? :confused: As far as I know, this is the only phone with "ClearBlack" AMOLED screen.

    BTW, I picked up FOUR new Nokia(n)'s today!!!
    http://forums.wirelessadvisor.com/the-roaming-zone/81908-my-4-new-nokia-n-s.html#post569432

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    The ClearBlack physics is not unique, and there are easy ways to achieve similar results. It depends on screen glass construction, and it is only one parameter that gives the impression of a 'better screen'. Nevertheless, smaller is better, for high lighting conditions.

    Around 4% is the smallest one can get, unless Anti-Reflection coatings are used. That is because all normal glasses will reflect 4% off the front surface, before light enters the phone.

    I often why they are not coated, as they can achieve levels down to 1%. If you think of your eyeglasses that have AR coatings...they can have a greenish-yellowish reflection, and that may be unattractive. Plus placing an AR coating over an Oleophobic screen is not easy.

    For comparisons, reflections from various phones/tablets.

    Motorola Droid
    12.1%

    iPhone 4
    7.0%

    Samsung Galaxy S
    4.4% (same as Nokia Lumia 900 :rolleyes:)

    Nexus One
    15.5%

    New iPad
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    Xoom
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    Thanks VF! Interesting post! :)

    Where did you find those phone reflection specs? I see the Galaxy S has the same index as the Lumia at 4% or so. I see the Galaxy S has "Super AMOLED", maybe it has similar properties? Also the Moto RAZR has "Super MOLED Advanced", what's the reflection index on that?
    AMOLED - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Suddenly theres a bunch of articles popping up on this topic. Here's one:
    http://www.phonearena.com/news/Here-is-how-Nokias-ClearBlack-AMOLED-display-technology-works_id26552

    Ok, this isn't really about glare, but interesting anyway, without looking ahead, and without bias, which screen shows the best and clearest colors?

    [​IMG]

    The answer is here:
    Display battle: NOVA Display vs Super AMOLED vs Retina Display vs ClearBlack AMOLED
     
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    viewfly, very interesting information, thank you.

    Is there a link or website you can point us to, so we can look up other phones and devices?


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