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Anyone with repeater 1st hand experience?

Discussion in 'GENERAL Wireless Discussion' started by rowdysluggins, Jul 1, 2006.

  1. Maximum Signal

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    My experience comes from lots of users and thier experiences . Fact is most have not even been happy with the performance of the unit in a car let alone a 500 square foot area. .But my sence is the they do not have the time , expertise or resources to bring it to the level they are looking for . Most customers want plug and play not all the additional extras you would have them go through to get the unit up to thier level of expectation . Much easier to move on to one of the higher power units.Good luck to them if they do pursue your suggestions. I hope it does work out for them.

     
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    I am a practicing radio engineer and we will only recommend Wilson amps in the under $1000 range for home and SOHO use. There are many booster amps on the low range which will either do nothing at 1900 MHz or just cause issues for the carrier. This is an area where "you get what you pay for" rings true. The business is very competitive for prices on the low end which are boosted by the relatively high cost of the good amplifiers. There are reasons a good amplifier costs more than a marginal one, but they are not always obvious to the end user. This page has a long treatment of the subject and is fair and balanced Cellphone Amplifiers with real engineering information explained in plain English.
    Bill About Signal Bars R Us
     
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    You need to reread the thread . We are were discussing a Wilson amplifier. The poster was asking if he can use in a situation it was not designed for . We were actually discussing the in -vehicle Wilson Wireless amplifier . Please do not paint all amplifiers beside Wilson with the same brush , Wilson are not the only company that takes great pride in thier product and sell s a quality product . Granted there are not many but Wilson is not the only one out there.

     
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    Why Wilson Boosters?

    Sir, I called the company you asked me to call and I requested two things. I asked for an engineering spec sheet without a sales pitch. I asked to speak to an engineer. Neither request was honored. When I asked to speak to the Chief Engineer, I was informed that their amps are designed by outside hired gun contract engineers [like myself].
    Pride in a product is irrelevant, specifications and support matter more to me.
    I am in awe of the engineering staff at Wilson. They have twelve full time engineers.
    Wilson's Chief Engineer, Dr Dwight Heim, EE earned his Ph.D. in Electrical Engineering and was named Professor Emeritus at the University of Michigan (1955-1986). Dr. Heim taught Electrical Engineering and has authored and published many technical articles and papers.
    My favorite personal contact in Wilson's Engineering Department, Alan Van Buren, EE Graduated from the University of California, Santa Barbara, with a Bachelor of Science degree in Electrical Engineering in 1971. He has 35 years of experience in RF design.
    Another impressive fellow at Wilson is Dr. Scott Parker, Ph.D. Scott earned a Ph.D. in Physics from Utah State University in 2000. He has 10 years of experience in antenna research and design, and has authored several conference presentations and publications in the areas of space-based radar using space-time adaptive processing.
    There are nine other graduate engineers in that department, and no hired gun consultants.
    That is why I specify Wilson.
    Have a Five Bar Day
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    Re: Why Wilson Boosters?

    Cyfre does use some of the Top engineers in the field along with the technology licensed from Motorola. So please . I did not bash Wilson . Just asked you not to paint Cyfre with the same paintbrush you were painting others with. I was very impressed with you in our phone conversation and was trying to get you some time with the right people at Cyfre. But they sort of were put off by your reciting your creditionals every time someone spoke to you and then coming off as you are smarter than everyone involved with Cyfre. You do not have to tell everyone how smart you are every time you talk to them or post in every post you make on the forums . You seem to be very inteligent and I believe you in all your accomplishments you told me about. I also do not need to read the resumes of all the engineers at Wilson . I am sure they are all very brilliant men. Because Cyfre is employing a different corporate structure and how they put thier engineering team together does not make thier work inferior to Wilson as you want to imply.
    Most large electronoics firms have both in house engineers and consultants on staff.The facts still reamin that all Cyfre amplifiers are designed and manufactured in the United States . If you do some research you will be amazed to find out that Wilson is now manufacturing thier boards off shore and only assembling here. But that is beside the fact
    I do not wish to have this sort of Internet argument.
    .As it is a waste of time and everyone looks stupid. Have a good day and relax.

     
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    Re: Why Wilson Boosters?

    Maxi, my friend,
    That is exactly my point. There was no one there who could answer my reasonable and proper engineering questions. Sad they have that attitude when someone with a credentialed background asks deeper questions and if that person is not impressed with smoke and mirrors sales pitches.
    I just wished to speak to a real engineer there, no more, no less.
    As to my bad habit of teaching as I interact with the forum's users, sorry if that is offensive to your sensibilities, but we are guests here in this medium and I prefer to "pay my way" by non commercial teaching and providing my experience to others.
    As to my credentials, I have not made a habit of placing the letters after my name that I am entitled to place after my name in this particular venue. Then I would have to type Bill, CPBE [and CSRE] which does not fit or look right without my last name also in the line.
    You seem to be a nice guy and I am sorry if my rather stiff technical writing style puts you off-- my wife complains of the same thing.
    Have a Five Bar Day
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    Does anyone know if I can use a Wilson SOHO (801245) repeater in a vehicle? I am considering the purchase of an 801201 (Mobile Wireless Dual-Band Amplifier), however I would like a larger "interior" useage range. We do a lot of traveling in remote areas an I would like to get better cell coverage for both of my PCS phones and my EVDO data card. The mobile 801201 states that it needs to be 8" to 12" from the device and gives a 40db gain. This would be tough to place next to the phone AND next to the laptop. The SOHO allows useage for a whole room and gives a 50db gain. Any thoughts?
     
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    Wilson unit needs to much seperation to be used effectivley in a vehicle . The Cyfre IVWA819 can be easily used in any vehicle . Because of the software driven amplification it does not require the seperation the Wilson units do . The Wireless advisor is giving one of these units away this month . here is the thread . Enter and have a chance to Win !!!

    http://forums.wirelessadvisor.com/t...76-contest-how-is-reception-your-vehicle.html


     
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    Thank you very much Maximum Signal. This appears to be exactly what I am looking for. Is there an AC adpt. available for this unit? (The Rev A signal at my house is a little sporatic.)

    Again, thank you for the input.
     
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    We do sell Ac Adapters . this unit is also available in a single room that incledes an Ac adapter .

    https://www.maximumsignal.net/xcart/product.php?productid=16219&cat=2&page=1

    We do not claim it will do a whoile home . We do have an In home / Small office unit system coming out later this year

     
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    Do both of these systems use the same repeater, just different internal & external antennas?
     
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    Yes they both use the Cascade IVWA819. I have customers that buy extra antennas and then move the amplifier between thier vehicle and single room application

     
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