Welcome to Our WirelessAdvisor Community!

You are viewing our forums as a GUEST. Please join us so you can post and view all the pictures.
Registration is easy, fast and FREE!

Alltel Cutting UP Analog Service?

Discussion in 'Central US Wireless Forum' started by plymaniac, May 18, 2005.

  1. plymaniac

    plymaniac New Member

    Joined:
    May 1, 2005
    Messages:
    3
    Likes Received:
    0
    I use an old Motorola bag phone from Alltel at a remote camp in the central Upper Peninsula of Michigan. Service during a February 2005 snowmobiling trip was excellent. Upon my return this April the service was essentially unusable. The signal strength is reduced and the phone is always roaming. I figure that Alltel has degraded its analog service but I cannot get a confirmation from the company or the local vendor. I knew that this day was coming but I wonder if anyone out there has any information on this.
     
  2. Matt

    Matt Twin girls!
    Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2001
    Messages:
    4,882
    Cell Tower Picture Gallery:
    2
    Likes Received:
    8
    Location:
    Lititz, Pa.
    My Phone:
    MyTouch 4G
    Wireless Provider(s):
    T-Mobile
    I think analog service is required to be maintained until sometime in 2007, but I certainly don't know the details.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  3. agentHibby

    agentHibby Iowa Cellular Guru
    Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2003
    Messages:
    3,468
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    SID 150 or 1214
    My Phone:
    Nokia 6256i
    Wireless Provider(s):
    Verizon Wireless
    The provider you were roaming on was Dobson (Cellular One)
    On Feb 18, 2008 analog (AMPS) becomes optional and Cellular providers can choose to take it down. New towers cellular providers may or may not use AMPS.

    I would think the GSM providers would shut the whole thing down
    maybe some CDMA providers might keep it up in rural areas.

    Wonder if Sussex Cellular will do in 2008? :confused:
     
  4. jones

    jones Silver Senior Member
    Senior Member

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2002
    Messages:
    3,424
    Likes Received:
    0
    I think CDMA providers would shut it down too,
    why would VZW sell CDMA phones only?
    Analog is only Good for Voice.
    i think Sussex will just sell their Network,
    the Tower/Spectrum are worth Big Bucks.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  5. MOTOhooligan

    MOTOhooligan Former Mobile Data Addict
    Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2003
    Messages:
    6,697
    Cell Tower Picture Gallery:
    21
    Likes Received:
    42
    Location:
    A Dead Zone
    My Phone:
    Google Pixel 6a
    Wireless Provider(s):
    Verizon
    Most providers are downgrading their AMPS service considerably since 95% of their active handsets have to be E911 compatible by the end of this year. That means that analog bag phones and other analog phones, which do not have the GPS E911 capability, are not longer able to be activated or put onto existing accounts in most cases so there are less analog phones in use and less analog spectrum is needed. They can put many more digital subscribers on the same amount of spectrum as a single analog user so it makes sense that as they start elimitating most of the people using analog equipment they would have less and less AMPS spectrum available until 2008 when they will elimitate it altogether. I would suggest getting an external antenna and booster kit for a handheld digital phone which will give you almost as much coverage as your bag phone had. From what I understand, Signal Reach makes a pretty good booster but I've never used one so I can't say for sure.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  6. jones

    jones Silver Senior Member
    Senior Member

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2002
    Messages:
    3,424
    Likes Received:
    0
    Of all Countries its only the USA
    that's still Operating an Analog Network.
    Other countries had shut Down their Analog.
    What's with the FCC?
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  7. MOTOhooligan

    MOTOhooligan Former Mobile Data Addict
    Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2003
    Messages:
    6,697
    Cell Tower Picture Gallery:
    21
    Likes Received:
    42
    Location:
    A Dead Zone
    My Phone:
    Google Pixel 6a
    Wireless Provider(s):
    Verizon
    :headscrat :googlyeye Your guess is as good as mine. :dunno: :confused:
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  8. Matt

    Matt Twin girls!
    Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2001
    Messages:
    4,882
    Cell Tower Picture Gallery:
    2
    Likes Received:
    8
    Location:
    Lititz, Pa.
    My Phone:
    MyTouch 4G
    Wireless Provider(s):
    T-Mobile
    What should the FCC do? They already gave the carriers pemission to phase out analog after 5 years.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  9. MOTOhooligan

    MOTOhooligan Former Mobile Data Addict
    Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2003
    Messages:
    6,697
    Cell Tower Picture Gallery:
    21
    Likes Received:
    42
    Location:
    A Dead Zone
    My Phone:
    Google Pixel 6a
    Wireless Provider(s):
    Verizon
    Yeah... but why would you mandate 95% E911 compliance by 12/31/2005 but tell carriers they have to keep analog until 2008? That doesn't make much sense IMHO, analog phones aren't E911 capable. I know there are tri-mode phones but for the most part, if you're using analog signal with a digital phone you're probably not very happy because of static, a hot phone and fast battery drain.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  10. Cailiff04

    Cailiff04 Senior Member
    Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2004
    Messages:
    311
    Cell Tower Picture Gallery:
    32
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Findlay Ohio
    My Phone:
    Samsung Galaxy S5
    Wireless Provider(s):
    AT&T
    Face it..it's another thing Alltel does. They dont care about their customers anyway.... :)
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  11. jrip

    jrip Senior Member
    Senior Member

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2004
    Messages:
    328
    Cell Tower Picture Gallery:
    25
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    W.Michigan
    My Phone:
    Sanyo MM-7400
    Wireless Provider(s):
    Sprint,Boost

    Alltels AMPS service(verizons also) here in michigan has become completely unusable in the last year or two. If you can complete a call, or even get your phone to dial out, you will most likely loose signal before anybody can say more than a couple of words. Usually they are "what did you say", "hello,hello, are you still there?", especially on Verizons network. Alltel has pretty much allocated as much spectrum as possible to CDMA in and around all towns, cities. With exception of a few way out in the boonies. But with a network designed for AMPS spacing(now CDMA) there is a large hole in between towers every few miles. With no AMPS to fill in the gap, 6-8 miles of good service, 2-3 of absolutely none. But neither VZW or ALLTEL show these areas of no service on their coverage maps. If they did thier coverage maps would quite litterally look like swiss cheese. And that does not look as good to customers as "solid colored" coverage maps. Wether that color be red or blue.
     
  12. WirelessBeachBum

    WirelessBeachBum Soylent Green is People
    Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 10, 2002
    Messages:
    2,792
    Likes Received:
    22
    Location:
    Hilton Head Island, SC
    My Phone:
    Thunderbolt...still
    Wireless Provider(s):
    VZW
    Verizon's maps are pretty accurate, however I think Alltels are/have been a bit suspect, and when Verizon must use Alltel's information to populate it's maps there are going to be some issues.

    Over the past year or so Verizon has gone from rate plan maps to coverage maps, I don't think Alltel has switched to coverage maps just yet. Either that or their RF engineering department is pretty generous with the blue paint.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  13. jrip

    jrip Senior Member
    Senior Member

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2004
    Messages:
    328
    Cell Tower Picture Gallery:
    25
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    W.Michigan
    My Phone:
    Sanyo MM-7400
    Wireless Provider(s):
    Sprint,Boost
    Verizons maps arent very accurate, everybody I know is constantly complaining that they cant even complete a call without dropping the call. That and they find more holes of no service than holes of service. One of the guys switched from Alltel to VZW(my boss). He found out VZW does not have access to Alltels entire network. There is a Alltel tower about a half mile from his house, brand new just completed a couple pf months ago. His daughters Alltel phone works great at home. His VZW phone does not work at all. And yes he has confirmed that it is an Alltel CDMA tower. And yes he does say "can you hear me now" alot while he's walking in circles, back and forth then running outside before the call drops.
     
  14. viewfly

    viewfly Mobile RF Advisor
    Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2003
    Messages:
    6,004
    Likes Received:
    858
    My Phone:
    iPhone XS Space Grey
    Wireless Provider(s):
    AT&T; Tmobile SIM only
    We had an interesting discussion in another WA forum on E911 in August last year. ( See E911 ).

    The systems being deployed for E911 include both A-GPS and U-TDOA technologies. This allows for E911 service on AMPS or analog phones too. See the link above and information on U-TDOA and the TruePosition web page, http://www.trueposition.com
     

Share This Page

Copyright 1997-2023 Wireless Advisor™, LLC. All rights reserved. All registered and unregistered trademarks are the property of their respective holders.
WirelessAdvisor.com is not associated by ownership or membership with any cellular, PCS or wireless service provider companies and is not meant to be an endorsement of any company or service. Some links on these pages may be paid advertising or paid affiliate programs.

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice