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6131: MMS Video messaging now works!

Discussion in 'NOKIA' started by bobolito, Apr 30, 2007.

  1. bobolito

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    With all this talk that MMS is working fine on the 6131's I decided to try to send myself a video clip and I can confirm that it was delivered without problems. This is something I could never do before.

    Also, thanks for Nokia Software Updater, please welcome me to the 6.10 family! :)
     
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    Welcome! :) Did you by any chance have better luck with Dictionary app? I've only seen it on my original Malaysian product code.
     
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    Dictionary App? What's that?

    I have found some differences on 6.10, some of which had already been mentioned in the other thread. One of the first things I've noticed is that when I close the flip, the standby light on the outside screen doesn't stay on as it used to. Now it will dim quicker and go completely off after about 30 seconds and then a few seconds after that the display turns monochrome. That's about half the time it used to take.

    Also, pressing the power button while the keys were locked caused the screen to light up. Not anymore. You have to open the flip. If you don't lock your keys, then that's not a problem since the screen lights up with any of the side keys.

    When connecting the charger, the screen used to light up. Not anymore.

    After you had closed the flip and the screen was dimmed, the screen used to light up again when the auto keypad lock was automatically activated. Not anymore. It stays dark.

    Not a big deal to me, but I guess all these changes might increase battery life a bit.

    Now I also noted that the "General Indicators" panel of the Active Standby screen actually does something! On the previous firmware, it never displayed anything. Now, it displays the date.

    The station name on the outside display now works fine. It used to show the first station name only regardless of which station was tuned.

    I also noticed the Music Player fast-forwards in intervals of 6 seconds instead of 5. I wish it would speed up the longer you press it.

    I hope they fixed the bug with transfering via Bluetooth to BlackBerrys. I know they fixed it with Motorola in 5.5.
     
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    Dictionary app is just a translation app — but apparently it's not in all variants. Since one of the fixes has mentioned it I thought maybe some EMEA variants may now have it, too.

    The power button behavior difference is probably a bug, not a feature — if you lock the keys manually instead of autolocking, the power button will work just like before. Also, if it autolocks and you connect/disconnect a BT headset, the power button works properly as well.
     
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    You're right. It works like that for me too. The way the backlight behaves now looks more like a patch rather than a change in programming. If you notice, when you plug in the charger, the light quickly flashes but stays off. It seems like the code to make the light turn on is still the same, they are just telling it to power off right away because it is easier to program it that way rather than changing the whole thing. I have a programming background in several languages and I know that looks like bad programming.

    I don't recall that "Lock keypad" command being there. I guess that's new.

    I also noticed today that when you get a message, the light doesn't stay on as long as it used to. But the flashing reminder for missed calls, and messages seems to work the same.
     
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    I write programs for a living and agree, it looks like a bad kludge :( Don't know if "lock keypad" is there as a "command", all Nokias I had would always lock in response to Menu, followed by a star (same as manual unlock) and this one was no different. I'd probably be more surprised to find it wasn't working :)

    You certainly pay a lot more attention to detail than I do :D
     
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    I've been with the 6.10 firmware for a few days now and I've been paying attention to the battery life. I have not seen any improvements whatsoever.

    I've also noticed that when charging the phone, the battery icon in the external screen is no longer there when in monochrome mode. A minor thing, but it was nice to know the phone was done charging without opening the flip.

    On the positive side, I've noticed the phone is slightly quicker for some things, such as opening folders, loading apps, etc. but it is slower when lighting up the main display when I open the flip. There was one instance where it got stuck (the display never came up when I opened the flip) and I closed the flip and opened it again to get the screen to come up. This never happened with the 5.5 firmware.

    So I've been finding that the 6.1 is not even worth the upgrade. I just don't see the advantage. While it fixed some bugs that were less than noticeable, it has introduced some other bugs that didn't exist before.
     
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    My comments inline.
     
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    I always charge my phone while it is on. In fact, I never turn it off unless I have to remove the SIM card or something like that. So I remember that while charging the battery charing icon was there in the monochrome screen and that was with the phone on. It's nice to know that when it is off it will show.

    About the screen staying in the dark, I can be a little more specific about that now. If you leave the flip open until the screen goes dark completely, you can make it "wake up" by pressing any key. It used to wake up instantly upon pressing a key on the 5.5 firmware. Now it takes about one second after the keypress to wake up. If you look at it carefully, it is not the backlight that has the delay, it is the display itself, so it is a screen rendering delay. I've only had it once get stuck in the dark. It hasn't happened again. Also, I have not had any reboots yet in this 6.1 firmware. I had some reboots back in 3.7, but 5.5 was better in that sense as I had less reboots. But 6.1 seems to be behaving even better about that. Or perhaps I haven't had it long enough to see a reboot yet.
     
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    OK, today I decided I've had enough of the 6.10 and pulled the plug/trigger/whatever, so I'm back to 5.50. All the backup and reinstall activities have almost drained the battery, so I decided to check out the charging indicator on the power saver screen — and it wasn't there! The power key wakes the phone up properly, I no longer get the VM item in the GoTo menu after every flip close (the only way to get rid of that is to do a full factory reset, but then if I changed something from the default profile, like US number grouping, it's back). So I guess I can now breath a sigh of relief and wait for the next version to come out before succumbing to the upgradeitis again :D
     
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    There is something to be said for being tardy/busy...after reading yours and Bobolito's experience with 6.10, I decided not to bother. It would have to be a major change to get me off my chair to go through an upgrade.

    thanks for your courage!

    So for now I'm just sitting on the side lines and :popcorn:
     
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    You're right, especially considering that you wouldn't be able to downgrade if you hated the 6.10 guts :)
     
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    My wife has a 6131 and it originally came with the 3.70 fw.

    Maybe these things were fixed in 5.5, but I quite happy with 6.10 because it fixed one major annoyance:

    Converting my mp3 music files with the NMM to AAC or M4A would strip the ID3V2 tags, leaving only ID3V1 tags, and the 6131 music player (3.70) seemed to look for the ID3V2 tags only - resulting in "squares" where the track and artist names should be. I always had to copy the ID3V1 tags to ID3V2 after converting the songs. With 6.10 the problem is not there anymore.

    I'm yet to see if the other problem it had was solved: She has a 2G microSD, and had 1.9G of songs. Sometimes when the music player opens it rescans the whole thing - although nothing was changed - which takes a lot of time. I ended up slashing her songs down to 400MB.

    After the upgrade, I asked for a rescan, and it was MUCH faster than in 3.70, so even if the problem persists, it is another 6.10 goodie.
     
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    So how did you downgrade back to 5.5 if you can't downgrade? And how do you get US number grouping? That's something I've never seen in this phone.
     
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    One thing I like about the 6.10 is that the music player remembers the music source to be the MicroSD card even if you take the card out and put it back in. Previously, on 5.5, if I removed the MicroSD card, the phone would automatically change the music source to be the internal memory even if you didn't use the music player in the interim, so after I put the card back in the phone and then open the player I would have to reselect the MicroSD as the music source every time I took my card out to add/change the MP3s on it. It's now a minor annoyance that's gone.

    However, I do find 6.10 to be slower to display the main screen every time I open the flip. Other than that it seems the same speed as 5.5 for the most part, with the exception of certain things like opening folders (Gallery, MicroSD card) which seem slightly faster on 6.10.
     
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    I did both things using J.A.F. The downgrade is a hack that they added fairly recently after Dejan Kaljevic posted a way to trick the phone into not recognizing the downgrade. This procedure requires an FBUS cable and the actual J.A.F. flasher. The US number grouping is much easier and can be done with just the P-Key (their equivalent of a Nokia dongle) and the software. Nokia has what is called a "Product Profile". If you have downloaded any Nokia firmware, look for a file with a PPU extension, or you can check a posted example.

    The PPU file describes each setting and values in more or less understandable form. The firmware has the default product profile included in the DCP files (those are just ZIP/RAR files and you can open and look at them). The J.A.F. allows me to extract the profile from the phone in the form of text file and upload it back after making changes. So I went in and changed the setting #12 from 0 to 1 to get the US number grouping.
     
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    You're the software master on this phone dmpar! I wouldn't attempt this unless I have a detailed procedure in front of me. :eek:

    Do you know of a way to check email with some time interval? The Razr can do every 30 min, 1hr, 2 hr, etc. But I can't find any menu in the 6131 to do the same. The new BB Curve to our phone family of course does it's own thing.
     
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    viewfly, thanks for the compliment :) The detailed procedure may be important, but the flashing software/hardware is absolutely critical ;)

    I have to admit, I don't use the email client that comes on the phone, so I don't know if there's such an option. If there is anything, it must be visible somewhere in the menu, as the email client seems to be a Java app (not part of the OS) and so all of the control parameters should be accessible through the menus.

    My gut feel is that it's not possible since (to the best of my knowledge) S40 devices do not have "active" applications the way S60 devices do, so you can't have the email client running in the background and checking the email. The mMode email sends it's own service message to the phone when an email arrives, but mMode is only available on Blue accounts.
     
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    viewfly, as dmapr said I don't think you can check your E-Mail on a timed basis with the 6131. I use my phone for one of my E-mail accounts exclusively and was not able to set up the 6131 to poll at regular intervals.

    PS: I also wanted to let you know that my 6131 is 1 year old today. :)
     
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    Happy Birthday to your 6131!!

    Is that a record in phone "keepage" for you?? :biggrin:
     
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    LOL, my 6131 and I thank you for the birthday wishes.

    As an active GSM phone, it is definitely a record :D
     
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    Congratulations, Charlyee & 6131! So does backup/travel qualify as active? ;)
     
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    I thank you and my 6131 thanks you. :D

    Hmm, yes, it certainly does IMHO. It has it's own active SIM in it and gets used actively ...lol
     
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    :) Yes, congrats, but doesn't your SO mostly use that phone? Does this count???

    BTW, my is now 10 months old and in very good condition. No paint chips etc.

    Best,
     
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    Et Tu viewfly? You guys are just trying to trip me. :D. Actually he only uses it from home, the rest of the time he uses his LG.

    Congratulations are in order for you and your blemish free 6131.

    Btw, I am pretty sure dmapr got his 6131 before me.
     
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    August last year, if my memory doesn't fail me, so I'm at 10 months mark as well.
     
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    Yes, Me Too Charlyee :D

    I think your BlackJack will be the real record for you though!
     
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    Happy Birthday to your 6131 Charlyee! LOL! Is he learning to walk? ;)

    Mine is not a year old until November.

    Multitasking is a feature I really miss from the Motorola UI. I used to be able to leave Java Apps running in the background for copy and paste operations, view text messages, open URLs, etc. No such luck with the 6131. Just about the only things that can be run in the background are the Music Player and the FM Radio, but sometimes if I am using Google Maps and a call comes in, I can answer it and hang up, but that's about it. I can't look at the phonebook or anything unless I exit Google Maps first.

    Another shortcoming I find is the lack of internal memory on the 6131. I have to constantly delete old ringtones and pictures to free up memory.

    I haven't decided if my next phone will be the V3xx or the RAZR2, but it will be one of those.
     
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    My default setting for photos, videos and mp3 is the my 512MB MicroSD card, not internal memory. Is the some other reason to leave them in the internal memory? The price drops on memory is amazing. Best Buy carries SanDisk MicroSD 1GB for less than $30. now.

    I have to admit that the BB Curve is working pretty well. The price points have changed so much now that it's affordable. Unlimited internet and 1500 SMS are packaged for only $39.95. That includes push email for up to 10 accounts.
     
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    Yeah, I have a MicroSD 1GB....I'm planning on getting the 2GB. My pictures, videos, music, etc. default save to the MicroSD card. Even Java apps I have them all running from the MicroSD card. The problem is with ringtones and wallpapers that its better to store them in the phone's internal memory but you quickly run out of memory if you don't keep an eye on it. An MP3 64kbps mono ringtone that is 30 seconds long is about 250 kb in size. That means with the phone's free memory of about 2 mb, you can only store like 8 MP3 ringtones. But also, it's not good to fill up the phone's memory completely. You have to leave some space for your text messages, MMS, etc. plus any other alert sounds you may want, so that means you can only effectively store less than 8 full music 30-sec ringtones. I know you can compress them more than that, but then they sound bad. I find anything less than 64kbps sounds poor for a phone ringtone. I've tried WMA, MP4 and AAC (since the 6131 supports them too) and they sound just as bad at less than 64kbps. My voicemail is set to answer at 30 seconds so my music ringtones have to last 30 seconds otherwise they loop before the voicemail answers.

    If you use wallpapers and ringtones stored in the MicroSD card, you lose your settings everytime you take the MicroSD card out if the phone is on. The phone will revert back to the default Nokia ring and wallpaper/theme. The solution would be to power off the phone before removing the card and insert it before powering it on. However, it is very easy to accidentally forget this.
     
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