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Without a doubt, the LG VX4500 is the phone to you. Nuff said.
Thanks for the response, but no dice, the 4500 does not have either function. I've already traded it in at the Verizon store for the Nokia 6015i....
I have the LG VX4500. I typically like to use my cell phone as an alarm clock, but I like to shut the ringer off at night, so I'm not disturbed...