WP reportedly overtakes iPhone in China with 7% of market

[dmapr]

While 7% of the Chinese smartphone market may seem like nothing to get excited about (especially considering Android had a staggering 68.4% last time we checked), it is an impressive statistic if you take into account that two months ago, not a single WP-powered device was for sale in China.

Windows Phone in China groter dan iPhone – Emerce

[Irish Rose]

Is there an English link to this? I can't read that, sorry.

[Charlyee]

Is there an English link to this? I can't read that, sorry.

Lol, no kidding.


Not sure if it is the same article but it is the same information.


WP reportedly overtakes iPhone in China with 7% of market - GSMArena.com news

[Irish Rose]

Lol, no kidding.


Not sure if it is the same article but it is the same information.


WP reportedly overtakes iPhone in China with 7% of market - GSMArena.com news

Thanks, Charlyee. This one seems to be the English equivalent to the first link.

[dmapr]

Is there an English link to this? I can't read that, sorry.

Lol, no kidding.


Not sure if it is the same article but it is the same information.


WP reportedly overtakes iPhone in China with 7% of market - GSMArena.com news

Sorry, IR, meant to post the one Charlyee dug out. The other one is the source of the article on GSM Arena.

[viewfly]

As claimed by Microsoft

In addition to having trouble catching up to Samsung in China, Microsoft’s Windows Phone platform has now managed to outsell the iPhone in the 1.33 billion people market, if a high-ranked Microsoft executive in charge of the Greater China region is to be believed.

According to his data, Windows Phone market share in China now sits at seven percent, a percentage point ahead of the six percent market share enjoyed by the iPhone.

No reason to get enraged over this metric. Apple’s in it for the profits, not market share and Nokia actually has a dominant presence and world-class distribution in this hugely important market. Let’s hope Tim Cook’s looking into those numbers as Apple needs to double down on China…


I'm very doubtful myself...


Windows Phone overtakes iPhone in China, Microsoft claims

It's partly a question of this too:


Wednesday May 16, 2012 6:26 am PDT by Eric Slivka
Reuters reports that China Mobile Chairman Xi Guohua has once again publicly stated that the world's largest mobile phone carrier is engaged in talks with Apple about offering the iPhone to its customers.
"We've been actively talking to Apple on how we can cooperate," China Mobile Chairman Xi Guohua, who assumed the post in March, told a shareholders meeting. "I can't give you too many details, but I'd like to repeat that both sides do hope to Boost our cooperation," Xi added after the meeting.
China Unicom was Apple's launch partner for the iPhone in China, and availability expanded to China Telecom earlier this year. Compatibility with China Mobile's network has, however, been hampered by the carrier's custom technology that would require specialized iPhone hardware to operate on the network. But with future wireless modem chips adding compatibility for China Mobile's network, it is possible that the next-generation iPhone could be directly compatible with China Mobile's network, eliminating the need for custom hardware to suit the carrier.

http://www.macrumors.com/2012/05/16/...ks-with-apple/

[RadioRaiders]

According to his data, Windows Phone market share in China now sits at seven percent, a percentage point ahead of the six percent market share enjoyed by the iPhone.

No reason to get enraged over this metric.

Why would anyone become "enraged" over a phone sales metric?

...in any case, I hear the Nokla Lunia is quite a hot seller in China these days, even surpassing the sales of BleckBerrys ...don't know why iClone sales are doing so poorly?

[viewfly]

Nokia and Samsung currently don't publish sales figures. Many reputable media sources doubt MS numbers.

iPhone market share is at 19%


Apple’s smartphone market share in China now up to 19%
Published on May 23rd, 2012
Written by: Cody


http://www.idownloadblog.com/2012/05...a-marketshare/


We’ve said it before, but it’s worth repeating. With over a billion cell phone users, and millions more in the wing, China is a crucial market for Apple in its quest to sell more smartphones — a market it’s only been in for a few months.

But it appears to be on the right track. According to a new report from Woori Investment and Securities, Apple sold over 6 million handsets in China between January and March of this year, pushing its smartphone market share in the country up to 19%…




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[viewfly]

http://thenextweb.com/asia/2012/05/2...-to-16-report/

The Woori data certainly pours cold water on claims that sales of Windows Phone 7 devices have seen Microsoft overtake Apple in the country.

Microsoft backed away from media reports — which originated from comments attributed to Michel van der Bel, its COO for Greater China — providing a non-committal statement which suggested that there had been a miscommunication.

LOL. LOL. LOL.

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[Charlyee]

Microsoft backed away from media reports — which originated from comments attributed to Michel van der Bel, its COO for Greater China — providing a non-committal statement which suggested that there had been a miscommunication.

LOL. LOL. LOL.

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Not sure what is so funny about this, all I see is media getting rabid on half baked information and getting away with it by liberal use of the word "alleged".


I am glad you saw such humor in it.

[RadioRaiders]

No reason to get enraged over this metric.

LOL. LOL. LOL.

Wow, from borderline "enraged" to hysterical "LOL's". Not sure what stake you have in any of this, but in any case take a breath and relax a little

[viewfly]

RR I guess the 'metric' is not in your favor this time?

Oh the word 'enraged' is not mine. That is from the news story RR. Read the link next time.

Strange how you make it personal when the facts are not on your side.

It is VERY funny how uncertified market share numbers made the rounds here and elsewhere. I am sure it is not funny to the person that lost their job at MS over this 'miscommunication'

What a huge Fail on MS attempt to hype up their perception of success.


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[Charlyee]

What a huge Fail on MS attempt to hype up their perception of success.


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I am not seeing any evidence of this, even the original article I posted had the following at the end:
"We do take the explosive growth figure with a grain of salt, however, since there are hints that the original source may have misinterpreted the statistics to mean the entire market, as opposed to just one operator. For now, though, it seems that WP is getting some major love in China."

Like I said this is news media running off "half baked" ( WA didn't allow me to post how Bond would have said it. ) information, just to be the first one to publish it.

Our Geeky Korean counter parts are probably reading these posts with amazement not understanding why the animosity while they stand united behind their Samsungs and LGs, irrespective of the differences. Why can we not all be happy and support MIcrosoft's effort to bring something new and innovative to the SmartPhone market and wish them success.

[RadioRaiders]

RR I guess the 'metric' is not in your favor this time?

Oh the word 'enraged' is not mine. That is from the news story RR. Read the link next time.

Strange how you make it personal when the facts are not on your side.

I don't have a "side" here, I could care less who's selling more phones in China Actually, it's probably neither Apple nor Nokia but some pirate knock-offs that are the biggest sellers there (Anyway didn't the article or something say Android had 60% of Chinse market share?) Not sure why you get so excited about phone sales figures, but I guess everyone needs a hobby

[viewfly]

I don't have a "side" here, I could care less who's selling more phones in China Actually, it's probably neither Apple nor Nokia but some pirate knock-offs that are the biggest sellers there (Anyway didn't the article or something say Android had 60% of Chinse market share?) Not sure why you get so excited about phone sales figures, but I guess everyone needs a hobby

And I guess your hobby is misquoting people RR. You misquoted me in the posts above.

But I guess you are not going to even offer the slightest hint of an apology for that?

The funny part is that MicroSoft's COO is quoted as saying WP has the greater market share than iOS in smartphones in China, when it was quite obvious that something was amiss with the data, even to the lay person.

[dmapr]

I never thought when I posted something clearly identified as a rumor that it'll get any more than a shrug or two, maybe a chuckle. How wrong I was

[RadioRaiders]

And I guess your hobby is misquoting people RR. You misquoted me in the posts above.

But I guess you are not going to even offer the slightest hint of an apology for that?

I'll offer you a tip instead: if you quote something from an article, either put it in quotes ("this is quoted text"), or use

the quote bubble like this, so that people know you are quoting someone elses text

If you simply copy/paste text from an article in your post without doing either of the above, people may interpret it as your own writing because it's not clear that it was quoted from another source. You have been on this forum nearly 10 years and haven't figured that out yet?

...and be it you or someone else, I'm still confused why someone who isn't an Apple/Nokia/etc. sales manager would get "enraged" about a sales metric?

[viewfly]

I'll offer you a tip instead: if you quote something from an article, either put it in quotes ("this is quoted text"), or use

You have been on this forum nearly 10 years and haven't figured that out yet?

So instead of an apology for not reading my link, and just jumping to an insult, you offer yet another personal dig/insult? Real class RR.

Oh, I use quotes nearly every time as needed, along with Italic script to make it clear. This time I forgot, so I apologize (see how easy that was?); I thought the link below the text would be read for someone so interested in the news source. But you should try reading first....I get the impression you just wish to be difficult instead.


At any rate, good to learn that the real numbers are 19% market share for the iPhone, and only 6% if that what Microsoft's COO claims...even though they prefer not to publish real numbers.

The first news story were very odd, given that other published sources placed Apple's share higher than 8%. And news stories often confuse 'market share' with ' sales figures' or use them interchangeably.

[Charlyee]

At any rate, good to learn that the real numbers are 19% market share for the iPhone, and only 6% if that what Microsoft's COO claims...even though they prefer not to publish real numbers.

The first news story were very odd, given that other published sources placed Apple's share higher than 8%. And news stories often confuse 'market share' with ' sales figures' or use them interchangeably.

Yes, iOS has 19% of the market, WP has 6%, and Android 66% or more. Both WP and iOS have a way to go to close the gap with the market leader.


This thread was posted as a rumor and has run it's course, with no new information being added, time to close it