Pogue's summary of new 3GS iPhone + firmware

[viewfly]

See the entire David Pogue review at
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/18/te...agewanted=1&em

"[with previous iPhones]... your emotions were swept away by everything Apple does so well: beauty, polish, elegance, simplicity and the thrill of interaction.

Meanwhile, your brain kept waving its little hand in the back of the classroom. “But the camera’s terrible!” it would say. “It can’t record video! There’s no voice dialing! No copy and paste! The iPhone can’t even send picture messages — even $20 starter phones can do that!”

But 21 million iPhone sales later, it’s become clear that the heart usually manages to shut the head up...


...[ However, with the free new firmware 3.0 and iPhone 3GS] , All of these changes make it much harder to resist the iPhone on intellectual, feature-counting grounds. The new iPhone doesn’t just catch up to its rivals — it vaults a year ahead of them.

At this point, the usual 10 rational objections to the iPhone have been whittled down to about three: no physical keyboard, no way to swap the battery yourself and no way to avoid using AT&T as your carrier.

In short, the substantially improved, still elegant iPhone 3G S makes it dangerously easy for your heart and your head to agree."

My comments: The current 2 Mega pixel camera is pretty darn good as it is...And AT&T has been a good carrier for me - wouldn't switch to any other US carrier. - viewfly

[Scrumhalf]

Our 32GB 3GSs are sitting in a UPS warehouse somewhere in the city, waiting to be delivered to the AT&T store later today. I think my wife and I will swing by the store early tomorrow before work to pick them up.

Can't wait! I feel like a kid on Christmas Eve...

[viewfly]

Originally Posted by Scrumhalf

Our 32GB 3GSs are sitting in a UPS warehouse somewhere in the city, waiting to be delivered to the AT&T store later today. I think my wife and I will swing by the store early tomorrow before work to pick them up.

Can't wait! I feel like a kid on Christmas Eve...

i know the feeling. Enjoy them Friday !!!

[Yankees368]

Oh look, David Pogue blindly loves a mac product. Shocking.
Anyone who is paying to upgrade from a 3G to a 3Gs is a stupid fanboy.
Come next year, when mac releases yet another version of the phone, the people who buy this stop-gap version will be kicking them self.

:-)

[Alienware_51]

Originally Posted by Yankees368

Oh look, David Pogue blindly loves a mac product. Shocking.
Anyone who is paying to upgrade from a 3G to a 3Gs is a stupid fanboy.

:-)

Lol those are fighting words

[Yankees368]

Originally Posted by Alienware_51

Lol those are fighting words

but anyway, back to reality. the 3gs offers faster processing power, and a better camera? That's cool. Kind of reminds me of the mogul>touchpro>touchpro 2 upgrades. Not really much changes in software, but the hardware gets a tiny boost.
People really should hold off until next year though. This 3gs model seems like a bad investment IMHO.

[Alienware_51]

Originally Posted by Yankees368

but anyway, back to reality. the 3gs offers faster processing power, and a better camera? That's cool. Kind of reminds me of the mogul>touchpro>touchpro 2 upgrades. Not really much changes in software, but the hardware gets a tiny boost.
People really should hold off until next year though. This 3gs model seems like a bad investment IMHO.

I agree. I was considering the 3Gs due to the processor upgrades, but I'm going to hold off until next year. In my opinion, Apple will have to release something nearly groundbreaking or very exciting, because people will start to get bored of the small updates and it won't be a big deal. Just my 2 cents.

[bobolito]

If I had a first generation iPhone, or no iPhone at all, I don't see how the 3Gs is a bad investment. This is where Apple is focusing on. Not everybody has an iPhone 3G. For those of us who have the 3G, it may not be a compelling upgrade, but for millions of others who don't have a 3G, it is very compelling. Think about those who didn't upgrade last year, or those who were in the middle of a contract with another carrier, or those who just didn't decide yet until now, or those who's deal breaker was the lack of copy and paste: there are millions out there that can be potential buyers for the 3Gs.

[Yankees368]

Originally Posted by bobolito

If I had a first generation iPhone, or no iPhone at all, I don't see how the 3Gs is a bad investment. This is where Apple is focusing on. Not everybody has an iPhone 3G. For those of us who have the 3G, it may not be a compelling upgrade, but for millions of others who don't have a 3G, it is very compelling. Think about those who didn't upgrade last year, or those who were in the middle of a contract with another carrier, or those who just didn't decide yet until now, or those who's deal breaker was the lack of copy and paste: there are millions out there that can be potential buyers for the 3Gs.

My original post points out that I am really just talking about people going from 3G to 3GS. That is just plain stupid. Other people, going from 2G iphone, or anything else, is OK I guess, but I predict that in one year from now, they will be kicking them self when a real upgrade comes up.

[Scrumhalf]

My wife and I went to the AT&T store this morning at 7:15am. It wasn't that crowded and we picked up our phones and were out of there by 8. Haven't really played with it - in fact, I popped the sim into my V3 for today because I had to rush to the office and I didn't have the screen protector, etc. on the phone. It is charging at home, so I'm looking forward to spending some quality time with it this evening

[viewfly]

Despite the seemingly shorter lines for the iPhone 3G S, the early sales number estimates indicate that the iPhone 3G S launch numbers could even exceed those of the iPhone 3G launch. Apple managed to sell 1 million of the iPhone 3Gs during its launch weekend last year. Unlike last year, however, Apple and AT&T have allowed pre-orders for the latest iPhone device.

UK mobile carrier O2 reveals that by lunchtime, they've already sold more iPhone 3G S handsets than they did during the entire day of the iPhone 3G launch. They expect by the end of the day to have sold 50% more than last year's opening day.

Meanwhile, AppleInsider reveals that AT&T has sold "hundreds of thousands" of iPhone 3G S's ahead of the launch. Based on these numbers, the site also speculates that Apple could easily sell more than a million devices during the first three days.

The Palm Pre is estimated to have sold 50,000 during the first three days of launch.

[viewfly]

Originally Posted by Scrumhalf

My wife and I went to the AT&T store this morning at 7:15am. It wasn't that crowded and we picked up our phones and were out of there by 8. Haven't really played with it - in fact, I popped the sim into my V3 for today because I had to rush to the office and I didn't have the screen protector, etc. on the phone. It is charging at home, so I'm looking forward to spending some quality time with it this evening

Good way to spend the weekend!

I'll be traveling overseas for the next week. Look forward to your comments when I come back. Will be using the iPhone is all sorts of unexpected international places. Sign up from discounted world traveler and 20 Mbytes of data.

[viewfly]

Originally Posted by viewfly

Despite the seemingly shorter lines for the iPhone 3G S, the early sales number estimates indicate that the iPhone 3G S launch numbers could even exceed those of the iPhone 3G launch. Apple managed to sell 1 million of the iPhone 3Gs during its launch weekend last year. Unlike last year, however, Apple and AT&T have allowed pre-orders for the latest iPhone device.

UK mobile carrier O2 reveals that by lunchtime, they've already sold more iPhone 3G S handsets than they did during the entire day of the iPhone 3G launch. They expect by the end of the day to have sold 50% more than last year's opening day.

Meanwhile, AppleInsider reveals that AT&T has sold "hundreds of thousands" of iPhone 3G S's ahead of the launch. Based on these numbers, the site also speculates that Apple could easily sell more than a million devices during the first three days.

The Palm Pre is estimated to have sold 50,000 during the first three days of launch.

Be curious of the breakdown of who is buying. new, 1st gen's or 3G er's from last year.

[bobolito]

Originally Posted by viewfly

....The Palm Pre is estimated to have sold 50,000 during the first three days of launch.

LMAO! Now that's mean just to throw that line in there. LOL!

[Yankees368]

Originally Posted by bobolito

LMAO! Now that's mean just to throw that line in there. LOL!

hey, im going to take those numbers and call myself in an exclusive club

[Charlyee]

Originally Posted by Yankees368

hey, im going to take those numbers and call myself in an exclusive club

Lol, I like that, specially since I belong to a "more" exclusive club. . I don't even know if 50,000 GSM Treo Pros have been sold since it first came out in September of '08. I certainly have never seen someone with one & I don't think anyone else on the board has one. I very much like the exclusivity actually, never believed in being a part of a crowd.

Back on topic, Pogue is a known Apple fanboy, so I wouldn't have expected anything different from him anyway.

Palm850/v0100 Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows CE; IEMobile 7.11)

[Yankees368]

Originally Posted by Charlyee

Lol, I like that, specially since I belong to a "more" exclusive club. . I don't even know if 50,000 GSM Treo Pros have been sold since it first came out in September of '08. I certainly have never seen someone with one & I don't think anyone else on the board has one. I very much like the exclusivity actually, never believed in being a part of a crowd.

Back on topic, Pogue is a known Apple fanboy, so I wouldn't have expected anything different from him anyway.

Palm850/v0100 Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows CE; IEMobile 7.11)

haha, GSM Treo Pro. The only time I have ever seen a treo pro, be it CDMA or GSM, is in stores. How do you like it? I actually considered it for a while, but then I remembered it was on winmo, and I am done with winmo for a while.

Oh, and screw David Pogue, he is so closed minded.

[cheddar]

Originally Posted by Yankees368

Oh, and screw David Pogue, he is so closed minded.

David Pogue is a comedian/brand not a serious tech columnist.

[Charlyee]

Originally Posted by Yankees368

haha, GSM Treo Pro. The only time I have ever seen a treo pro, be it CDMA or GSM, is in stores. How do you like it? I actually considered it for a while, but then I remembered it was on winmo, and I am done with winmo for a while.

I like it very much, this is the best phone I have had todate. It has exceptional call quality & reception. It is more stable than my WM 6.0, I haven't been able to lock it yet.

I have traveled to India, Singapore, Hongkong, Bali & Java with it & it has given me the same flawless performance everywhere. For some reason I was not able to get a satellite fix in Indonesia, but considering I wanted the GPS to work only for the *neat factor* it didn't matter that much

If I had any complaints it would be the battery life but for all has on it & all I do on it, I think the battery life is pretty decent. It gets me through the day gracefully.

Palm850/v0100 Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows CE; IEMobile 7.11)

[Yankees368]

Originally Posted by Charlyee

I like it very much, this is the best phone I have had todate. It has exceptional call quality & reception. It is more stable than my WM 6.0, I haven't been able to lock it yet.

I have traveled to India, Singapore, Hongkong, Bali & Java with it & it has given me the same flawless performance everywhere. For some reason I was not able to get a satellite fix in Indonesia, but considering I wanted the GPS to work only for the *neat factor* it didn't matter that much

If I had any complaints it would be the battery life but for all has on it & all I do on it, I think the battery life is pretty decent. It gets me through the day gracefully.

Palm850/v0100 Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows CE; IEMobile 7.11)

Sounds good to me. Batteries are the worst part about smartphones. The pre sucks it down like I drink coffee on a monday morning.

[viewfly]

Originally Posted by bobolito

LMAO! Now that's mean just to throw that line in there. LOL!

Well, as the TV show said, " Just the facts, madam"

So it's been confirmed, Apple says 1M iPhone 3Gs sold in first three days of sales


Apple Inc. announced today that it sold its 1 millionth iPhone 3G worldwide on Sunday, three days after the device launched, and added that more than 10 million applications from the App Store had been downloaded since late last week.

Hitting the 1 million mark in three days is a big improvement over the 74 days it took to sell 1 million of the original iPhones in the U.S. market last year, according to Apple Inc. officials.

Independent analyst Jeff Kagan called those early sales "impressive ... and amazing."

In a statement, Apple CEO Steve Jobs called the opening weekend iPhone 3G sales "stunning ... the new iPhone 3G is clearly off to a great start around the world.

[COtech]

Originally Posted by viewfly

Well, as the TV show said, " Just the facts, madam"

So it's been confirmed, Apple says 1M iPhone 3Gs sold in first three days of sales


Apple Inc. announced today that it sold its 1 millionth iPhone 3G worldwide on Sunday, three days after the device launched, and added that more than 10 million applications from the App Store had been downloaded since late last week.

Hitting the 1 million mark in three days is a big improvement over the 74 days it took to sell 1 million of the original iPhones in the U.S. market last year, according to Apple Inc. officials.

Independent analyst Jeff Kagan called those early sales "impressive ... and amazing."

In a statement, Apple CEO Steve Jobs called the opening weekend iPhone 3G sales "stunning ... the new iPhone 3G is clearly off to a great start around the world.

You found an old story from July 14, 2008 12:00 PM ET about the "3G". You did quote acurately. I wonder how the "3G S" is doing.

COtech

[viewfly]

Originally Posted by COtech

You found an old story from July 14, 2008 12:00 PM ET about the "3G". You did quote acurately. I wonder how the "3G S" is doing.

COtech

Right you are! I've been googled, Sorry for the error. I'll blame it on the 7 hour jet lag I have (I'm overseas this week).

My original post above #13 still holds, and is about the only thing I can find today. We'll have to wait for the numbers.

[SteveW]

Originally Posted by Charlyee

Back on topic, Pogue is a known Apple fanboy, so I wouldn't have expected anything different from him anyway.

Originally Posted by cheddar

David Pogue is a comedian/brand not a serious tech columnist.

David Pogue is richer than I'll ever be, so he doesn't need me to defend him, but I don't have a problem with his column or professionalism. Of course he's somewhat of an Apple fanboy, that's where his money comes from. The original Missing Manual books were all about Apple stuff. But he isn't really a HoFo-type fanboy that likes his favorite toys to the exclusion of others, based on personal idiosyncrasies. In my view, he's still a journalist who calls the good and bad points of products as he sees them (as he did listing the shortcomings of the original iPhone in viewfly's original post).

And he is only a comedian in his videos. I rarely watch those - too cutesy - but to me they don't detract from his written stuff. And since when is promoting your personal brand a bad thing? I think Martha Stewart, Oprah, Ralph Lauren and Donald Trump would disagree.


SW

[Charlyee]

Originally Posted by SteveW

Of course he's somewhat of an Apple fanboy, that's where his money comes from. In my view, he's still a journalist who calls the good and bad points of products as he sees them (as he did listing the shortcomings of the original iPhone in viewfly's original post).
SW

IMHO "somewhat" is quite the understatement.

Yes, he pointed out the shortcomings of the original 3G, only to flaunt how much better the 3GS is, I hardly call that impartial. When the iPhone 3G first came out he sure did a great job of masking these so called 10 shortcomings.

He is enterprising that's for sure, how many people are a summa cum laude in Music, spend ten years conducting and arranging Broadway musicals. and then pass as a tech jounalist.

Originally Posted by viewfly

Right you are! We'll have to wait for the numbers.

Here you go.

http://forums.wirelessadvisor.com/wi...on-iphone.html (Apple Sells Over One Million iPhone 3GS Models)

[viewfly]

Thanks Charylee. So Apple did indeed sell 1 million 3G S in three days...in 2009.

I feel relieved and am wiping the egg off of my face.

[Yankees368]

Doh! lol. anyway, 1 mil aint bad. I wonder how the pre would have done with worldwide sales. It's kinda slim pickins, launching just in the US, and just on Sprint. I wonder how it will do when it launches in Canada.

I remember when the iphone first came out, Canadians were paying through the nose to import one from the US and activate it up there.