25% of iPhones UNLOCKED

[Jerro]

Quarter of Apple iPhones unlocked: analyst | Technology | Reuters

[bobolito]

It's a cat and mouse game. Every time Apple releases a new firmware that re-locks the iphone, the Jailbreaker team comes up with a new version that re-unlocks it again.

[Jerro]

Perhaps Apple will wise up and make i (type) phones for other carriers?

[bobolito]

Not in the next 5 years. There's a contract with AT&T. If they break that, they'll have to pay the ETF.

[RadioFoneGuy]

Apple makes good products but their business model sucks for their consumers.

Could you imagine if apple was into oil, Gas would be 5 bucks a gallon and you would have to fill up at a Apple gas station of your car would self destruct.

I think the fad of the iPhone is on the downward spiral, they made some money now its time to open that thing up to everyone. But that wont happen as the iPhone is now in Europe and Apple would have to worry about the US selling them unlocked iPhones.

[Eric47]

i really dont see sales dropping on the iPhone. espically with tax returns coming. people are still asking about them constantly. if it drops in price just 50-100 dollars they would be low on supply again. regaurdless of anything.

[scotsboyuk]

Originally Posted by RadioFoneGuy

Could you imagine if apple was into oil, Gas would be 5 bucks a gallon and you would have to fill up at a Apple gas station of your car would self destruct.

'Gas' is about $7.50/gallon here.

I think the fad of the iPhone is on the downward spiral, they made some money now its time to open that thing up to everyone. But that wont happen as the iPhone is now in Europe and Apple would have to worry about the US selling them unlocked iPhones.

I'm not sure I understand that last part. Unlocked iPhones are already available in France.

[Eric47]

they are saying you cant get one unlocked here. but no provider here sells unlocked phones, though sometimes they will give you unlock capabilities...except for the iphone.

[Jay2TheRescue]

Originally Posted by scotsboyuk

'Gas' is about $7.50/gallon here.



I'm not sure I understand that last part. Unlocked iPhones are already available in France.

You must forgive us. We "Yanks" prefer our petrol under $2/gallon. Unless you live in a large city like Washington, or New York most cities and towns don't have good public transportation. Especially in the suburbs, where most of the US population lives there is no public transport, and you need a car to go anywhere. Take for example my mom's house. She is 5 miles from the nearest convenience store, and about 8 miles from the nearest grocery store, and about 12 miles from the nearest bus stop. If fuel was that expensive here our economy would grind to halt.

-Jay

[Eric47]

Originally Posted by Jay2TheRescue

You must forgive us. We "Yanks" prefer our petrol under $2/gallon. Unless you live in a large city like Washington, or New York most cities and towns don't have good public transportation. Especially in the suburbs, where most of the US population lives there is no public transport, and you need a car to go anywhere. Take for example my mom's house. She is 5 miles from the nearest convenience store, and about 8 miles from the nearest grocery store, and about 12 miles from the nearest bus stop. If fuel was that expensive here our economy would grind to halt.

-Jay

i have a bicycle in the backyard just in case.

[walkguru]

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Originally Posted by EricN4707

i have a bicycle in the backyard just in case.

I have a horse for that.

[Eric47]

Originally Posted by walkguru

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I have a horse for that.

im not that far in the country.

[scotsboyuk]

Didn't realise what I was starting! lol I don't drive myself (although my fiance does), but I suppose we do have a reasonably good transport system where I live so that I don't need to drive. I can use the train, bus or subway to get just about anywhere in the city although it has to be said that public transport isn't that cheap either (except if you are are a pensioner as it's free); an all day ticket on the bus is £3 (around $6)!

[bobolito]

Originally Posted by EricN4707

i really dont see sales dropping on the iPhone. espically with tax returns coming. people are still asking about them constantly. if it drops in price just 50-100 dollars they would be low on supply again. regaurdless of anything.

That's true. Just wait until the 3G version comes out.

[bobolito]

Originally Posted by Jay2TheRescue

You must forgive us. We "Yanks" prefer our petrol under $2/gallon. Unless you live in a large city like Washington, or New York most cities and towns don't have good public transportation. Especially in the suburbs, where most of the US population lives there is no public transport, and you need a car to go anywhere. Take for example my mom's house. She is 5 miles from the nearest convenience store, and about 8 miles from the nearest grocery store, and about 12 miles from the nearest bus stop. If fuel was that expensive here our economy would grind to halt.

-Jay

According to the 2000 US census 70% of the US population lives in the top 100 markets which happen to be the largest cities. Therefore, most of the US population lives in cities where there is public transportation one way or another.

[Jay2TheRescue]

Originally Posted by bobolito

According to the 2000 US census 70% of the US population lives in the top 100 markets which happen to be the largest cities. Therefore, most of the US population lives in cities where there is public transportation one way or another.

Whatever... Anyway to get this thread back on track, if Apple is so concerned about people unlocking the iPhones why not make it like a Blackberry. Have the internet, text, and email proxy through Apple's servers. Then have the servers setup to only accept connections originating from "approved" domains, like ATT/Cingular. That way someone with TMO tries to connect the server deines them. Their iPhone is no good for Email, MMS, text, or internet. Voice only. Lots of unlocking would stop.

Apple should pay me for ideas like that...

-Jay

[cellular_freak]

I thought that Apple and AT&T's deal was only intended to go until 2009 and if they wanted to extend it, they could? I think it would be wise of Apple to end it in 2009. They should see that people don't want AT&T service or just don't want to switch because they're happy with their service (or they plain out just don't have AT&T in their area). I believe Apple should release the iPhone for T-Mobile and other minor GSM carriers at that time as well as release a CDMA version of the iPhone for Verizon, Sprint, Alltel, and other minor CDMA carriers. This is obviously what the people want. The RAZR wasn't locked to AT&T for THAT long!!!

[Jay2TheRescue]

Originally Posted by cellular_freak

I thought that Apple and AT&T's deal was only intended to go until 2009 and if they wanted to extend it, they could? I think it would be wise of Apple to end it in 2009. They should see that people don't want AT&T service or just don't want to switch because they're happy with their service (or they plain out just don't have AT&T in their area). I believe Apple should release the iPhone for T-Mobile and other minor GSM carriers at that time as well as release a CDMA version of the iPhone for Verizon, Sprint, Alltel, and other minor CDMA carriers. This is obviously what the people want. The RAZR wasn't locked to AT&T for THAT long!!!

Still, Apple's beef is that they are missing revenue from data plans that they would get from their authorized carriers. If it proxied through their servers they could end the unlocking business. They can either deny users from unapproved carriers, or they can bill those other users separately for their usage.

-jay

[Jerro]

Originally Posted by scotsboyuk

Didn't realise what I was starting! lol I don't drive myself (although my fiance does), but I suppose we do have a reasonably good transport system where I live so that I don't need to drive. I can use the train, bus or subway to get just about anywhere in the city although it has to be said that public transport isn't that cheap either (except if you are are a pensioner as it's free); an all day ticket on the bus is £3 (around $6)!

With all that North Sea Oil you should be paying less than in the US, ( for petrol) if you were not over taxed. Here in the suburbs of Philadelphia we have to drive everywhere. If we use public transportation we drive to the train.