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Old 06-07-2007, 7:58 PM   #1 (permalink)

 
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Ban Halts Release of New 3G Phones (Phone Scoop)

QualComm blocked from US via ITC.

This is bad.

It means:
No new phones for CDMA provider, nor 3G for GSM.

But will the CDMA networks get shut down now?

The good things about this is that we might get R-IUM CARDS - that'd be sweet!
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Ban Halts Release of New 3G Phones (Phone Scoop)

QualComm blocked from US via ITC.

This is bad.

It means:
No new phones for CDMA provider, nor 3G for GSM.

But will the CDMA networks get shut down now?

The good things about this is that we might get R-IUM CARDS - that'd be sweet!
You are all over the place with this post. No cell network will ever be shut down because of some injunction. Also, I don't know why you would think that we would get R-IUM cards out of this deal.
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Old 06-07-2007, 8:49 PM   #3 (permalink)

 
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I just wrote a letter to my senator and representative expressing my displeasure with the ruling, I suggest you all do the same. This is a democracy and the people's will through congress is the law. The ITC can only enforce the laws that congress passes.

I wrote one. Will you?
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Here is another article on this ruling on the chips.


ITC orders ban on new 3G handsets with Qualcomm chips

Ruling ‘a shocker,’ potentially detrimental to entire wireless industry

In a potentially serious blow to Qualcomm Inc.’s chipset and IP-licensing business, the U.S. International Trade Commission ordered a ban on new 3G handsets bearing Qualcomm chips that infringe on a Broadcom Corp. patent. The ruling could also have wide-ranging effects on the U.S. wireless industry.

It was not immediately clear what brands and models of mobile handsets would be affected by the order, which applies to handsets imported after today that contain the offending Qualcomm chip.

In a conference call after the decision was released, Qualcomm executives appeared to indicate that the detailed text of the ITC’s majority opinion in the case would have to be reviewed to determine which handset vendors and handset models would be affected. That could provide a better sense of how the ITC decision may affect Qualcomm’s core financial results.

The order—characterized as a “downstream remedy” because it addresses not only the offending chips but products containing them—exempts handsets with the offending chips available until today or the same models available after today. The ITC’s majority found that, because the offending chips are incorporated into handsets overseas, then imported, banning the chips alone would not provide a material remedy to Broadcom.

Broadcom declared itself “pleased” and “gratified” at the ITC decision.

“We have made it clear to Qualcomm that we are open to discussions regarding the potential for licensing of our patent,” Broadcom said in a statement. “The ball is in Qualcomm’s court.”

Qualcomm’s CEO Paul Jacobs said that the ITC decision was “wrong” and that his company would take two legal steps: it would immediately seek an emergency stay of the ITC order from the federal circuit court of appeals and, secondly, it would seek a presidential veto of the ITC decision.

Jacobs characterized the ITC decision as a blow to disaster preparedness, third parties in the wireless industry and consumers. He also said that “tens of millions” of handsets may be affected by the decision.

Will Strauss, principal at Forward Concepts, a semiconductor market analysis firm, described the ITC’s decision as “a shocker.”

“It’s shocking that the government would do that, regardless of the infringement issue,” Strauss said. “This could be detrimental to the entire U.S. wireless industry.”

Strauss said that the two likeliest handset vendors to take a hit from the order would be Samsung Electronics Co. Ltd. and LG Electronics Co. Ltd., whose products are featured in handset portfolios at Verizon Wireless, Sprint Nextel Corp. and Alltel Corp., three of the nation’s five largest network operators. He was not as certain about possible impacts to Motorola Inc.

Strauss said that a “workaround”—an attempt by Qualcomm to find a technical alternative to using the Broadcom patent in question—would take time. Meanwhile, the ITC decision might prompt renewed efforts between the two companies to reach a cross-licensing agreement.

“Like all things in this industry, money can solve a lot of issues,” Strauss said.

According to media reports, Verizon Wireless—perhaps the largest U.S. carrier potentially affected by the order—will join Qualcomm in asking for a presidential veto.

Qualcomm’s conference call featured a handful of the company’s top executives and many leading industry analysts, reflecting the widespread concern that the ITC order would disrupt Qualcomm’s business and possibly have far-reaching effects on the entire industry.

Qualcomm’s stock was up slightly in after-hours trading on the news, to around $41.80 per share. Broadcom’s stock was also up slightly, to $30.50 per share.


ITC orders ban on new 3G handsets with Qualcomm chips :: RCR Wireless News
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So Qualcomm previously shooting everyone over their patents, now they're getting a piece of their own medicine. Good luck!
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According to media reports, Verizon Wireless—perhaps the largest U.S. carrier potentially affected by the order—will join Qualcomm in asking for a presidential veto. How is Verizon going to get a Presidential Veto? the ITC is the Internation Trade Court, the president has no veto power over them. Serves Qualcomm right maybe they'll come off their high horse and negotiate better royalty fees with folks like Nokia and other manufacturers.
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According to media reports, Verizon Wireless—perhaps the largest U.S. carrier potentially affected by the order—will join Qualcomm in asking for a presidential veto. How is Verizon going to get a Presidential Veto? the ITC is the Internation Trade Court, the president has no veto power over them. Serves Qualcomm right maybe they'll come off their high horse and negotiate better royalty fees with folks like Nokia and other manufacturers.
The ITC is the United States International Trade Commission, and it's a federal agency, which of course means the ultimate boss is the President.


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This is bad.

It means:
No new phones for CDMA provider, nor 3G for GSM.

But will the CDMA networks get shut down now?

The good things about this is that we might get R-IUM CARDS - that'd be sweet!

Yes, this is true...Verizon, Sprint, Alltel, US Cellular, etc.....will all be shutting down here in the next couple months.
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This is bad.

It means:
No new phones for CDMA provider, nor 3G for GSM.

But will the CDMA networks get shut down now?

The good things about this is that we might get R-IUM CARDS - that'd be sweet!

Yes, this is true...Verizon, Sprint, Alltel, US Cellular, etc.....will all be shutting down here in the next couple months.
Yeah I heard that all the CDMA carriers aren't even going to try and fight it... they're just going to shutdown CDMA and deploy a TDMA network.

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I still don't understand why CDMA users might get R-UIM cards as a result of this. What does one have to do with the other?
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the cdma networks are not going to shut down.
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I still don't understand why CDMA users might get R-UIM cards as a result of this. What does one have to do with the other?
it doesn't have to make sense. look whose posting it. he's gonna repeat here what hes been doin at hofo!
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Yeah I heard that all the CDMA carriers aren't even going to try and fight it... they're just going to shutdown CDMA and deploy a TDMA network.

I heard that they were going to re-activate AMPS.
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I heard that they were going to re-activate AMPS.
No you are all crazy, we're going back to CB radios....
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Yeah I heard that all the CDMA carriers aren't even going to try and fight it... they're just going to shutdown CDMA and deploy a TDMA network.

i don't think that they will go back to tdma because that is a older system and not as good as cdma. they will come up with some kind of work around or maybe gsm but i don't really think the carriers would want to spend the money to switch over to gsm it would just cost to much.don't worry about cdma shutting down not going to happen.
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To say that the CDMA wireless providers would shut down or even change their network because of the lawsuit is absolutly absurd! Verizon Wireless is taking action on this matter (Read In Verizon Wireless Mobile Web News Headlines)
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This is strunke-bear calling yankee-bear, over.

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To say that the CDMA wireless providers would shut down or even change their network because of the lawsuit is absolutly absurd! Verizon Wireless is taking action on this matter (Read In Verizon Wireless Mobile Web News Headlines)
Hahaha, don't worry we know, well most of us anyway. We're just joking around.
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