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jones · 12-29-2004, 1:59 PM

Report: Time Warner, Sprint Look at Deal

Wed Dec 29, 9:51 AM ET

By The Associated Press

Time Warner Cable is reportedly working with Sprint Corp. on a deal that would allow the cable provider to offer cellphone service on a trial basis next year.

The deal would put the unit of Time Warner Inc. in a class all its own as the only major cable company to offer cellular service, and would give the two companies stakes in television, high-speed Internet access and wired and wireless phone service, The Wall Street Journal reported Wednesday.

Representatives from both companies confirmed that talks are underway but would not say if a deal was imminent, as the newspaper reported.

The service would be limited to Kansas City, Mo., in the first quarter of 2005, but could expand.

Time Warner is the country's second-largest cable operator with nearly 11 million subscribers.

catv's wants to partner w/ sprint/t-mobile

catv to partner w/ cell carriers

Gamer03 · 12-29-2004, 2:25 PM

Interesting.

I saw that story on my local news at noon.

Etorres777 · 12-29-2004, 2:55 PM

I'm not going to comment on Time Warner...

larry · 12-29-2004, 2:58 PM

Time Warner serves my area.

jones · 12-29-2004, 2:58 PM

i sure hope this is just a resell
and not a precursor
to another Mega-Merger.

ZaphodB · 12-29-2004, 3:10 PM

Good for them...

I have Adelphia. And I hate it.

jayc · 12-29-2004, 5:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jones

i sure hope this is just a resell
and not a precursor
to another Mega-Merger.

MVNO I'm sure...

danny boi · 12-29-2004, 8:34 PM

Do customers think they are signing up with Sprint or do they think they'll be signing up with Time Warner Wireless? My same question applies to all the other MVNO's out there leasing Sprint airwaves. Do their phones say Sprint on them? Do their bills indicate they are using Sprint's network? If I buy a phone from a MVNO, can I take it to a Sprint store for service related issues? Would Sprint be able to access my account if I signed up through a MVNO?

Sprint + MVNO's + Nextel + Partners + Merger = A lot of work. Poor employees. I can imagine some confusion starting to happen. Quarter earnings for net adds will continue to be confusing. Some magazines will include totals of all divisions while others will only post figures that Sprint sold on their own. AT&T will be the most confusing MVNO of all if the deal still falls through.

Is this move strictly for profit, or is it an attempt to compete directly with the baby bells who can offer high speed internet and wireless locally? Maybe Sprint doesn't want to pay all the overhead associated with hiring their own employees and sees re-selling as a big money maker.

Maybe Time Warner should buy everyone out including all partners and MVNO hopefulls. That way there will be one company, one name, one service, one brand. Less confusion.

Fathead · 12-30-2004, 1:07 AM

Qwest is doing the MVNO thing, and for the first bit of it, the phones were branded Sprint. Now they are branded Qwest.

agentHibby · 12-30-2004, 1:47 AM

I think Cox Cable is a partner with Sprint in some markets like Las Veags and other areas??
Only cable company I can think of that did well with wireless was Comcast Cellular

Mobile Mike · 12-30-2004, 4:38 AM

I'm wondering how many more MVNO's Sprint will cram onto its network. This is getting rediculous.

larry · 12-30-2004, 4:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by agentHibby

I think Cox Cable is a partner with Sprint in some markets like Las Veags and other areas??
Only cable company I can think of that did well with wireless was Comcast Cellular

Sprint and Cox dissolved thier old partnership and have nothing to do with each other anymore (at least here in CA). Their agreement to house CMI antennas in San Diego, CA expired last year and Sprint had until this past summer to remove them (which they did).

agentHibby · 12-30-2004, 11:00 AM

Thanks for the info Larry

Etorres777 · 12-30-2004, 2:07 PM

Why does everyone MVNO off of Sprint?

jones · 12-30-2004, 2:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Etorres777

Why does everyone MVNO off of Sprint?

Because they're not owned by a Landline phone company like VZ, SBC or Bellsouth.

Comcast Cellular was bought by SBC.

Andy · 12-30-2004, 3:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Etorres777

Why does everyone MVNO off of Sprint?

I had the same question. Does everyone agree with Jones' explanation, because I have no clue.

larry · 12-30-2004, 3:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Etorres777

Why does everyone MVNO off of Sprint?

Because Sprint is in the best shape spectrum wise and can handle it.

jones · 12-30-2004, 4:34 PM

Cable companies are in a bitter fight with traditional phone carriers, such as SBC Communications Inc., BellSouth Corp. and Verizon Communications Inc., as both are trying to offer the full range of television programming, high-speed Internet, standard voice services and wireless.

Cable has to sell wireless and they can't resell those
they compete with.

larry · 12-31-2004, 1:47 AM

Another reason is that Sprint serves every urban market natively while the other larger carriers are all missing a few.

danny boi · 12-31-2004, 5:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by larry

Another reason is that Sprint serves every urban market natively while the other larger carriers are all missing a few.

Own licenses/spectrum in every urban area or provide native service in every urban area?

Wouldn't a company like Time Warner sell service only to markets they operate as a cable provider or do they plan to market themselves as a national wireless carrier/reseller?

larry · 12-31-2004, 4:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YourDaddy

Own licenses/spectrum in every urban area or provide native service in every urban area?

Wouldn't a company like Time Warner sell service only to markets they operate as a cable provider or do they plan to market themselves as a national wireless carrier/reseller?

Not sure about Time Warner but the other MVNO's (Qwest, Virgin Mobile, the new AT&T) do want to offer service nationally. So therefore Sprint is a good choice since they serve every major metropolitan area in the US natively using the same network & features.

Fire14 · 12-31-2004, 6:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by larry

Not sure about Time Warner but the other MVNO's (Qwest, Virgin Mobile, the new AT&T) do want to offer service nationally. So therefore Sprint is a good choice since they serve every major metropolitan area in the US natively using the same network & features.

I was actually suprised that AT&T didn't go with Cingular in the beginning, especially with the GSM world roaming abilities they could have provided for there customers. Of course i think i remember AT&T saying they may go with other providers to give more options to there customers, maybe they wanted to wait to see how the migration went?

12-29-2004, 1:59 PM	#1 (permalink)
jones Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,425 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Time Warner to sell Sprint pcs service Report: Time Warner, Sprint Look at Deal Wed Dec 29, 9:51 AM ET By The Associated Press Time Warner Cable is reportedly working with Sprint Corp. on a deal that would allow the cable provider to offer cellphone service on a trial basis next year. The deal would put the unit of Time Warner Inc. in a class all its own as the only major cable company to offer cellular service, and would give the two companies stakes in television, high-speed Internet access and wired and wireless phone service, The Wall Street Journal reported Wednesday. Representatives from both companies confirmed that talks are underway but would not say if a deal was imminent, as the newspaper reported. The service would be limited to Kansas City, Mo., in the first quarter of 2005, but could expand. Time Warner is the country's second-largest cable operator with nearly 11 million subscribers. catv's wants to partner w/ sprint/t-mobile catv to partner w/ cell carriers __________________ - 3 Billion GSM Users by 2009. - 700 GSM Carriers in 220 Countries - 82% of the Global Market 45,000 Cell Sites and Adding.

12-29-2004, 2:25 PM	#2 (permalink)
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Etorres777 Life is good for now.. Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: El Paso, TX Posts: 1,747 Phone(s): Apple iPhone 3G Provider(s): at&t Mobility Devices: HP Pavilion dv5000 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts My Auctions	Re: Time Warner to sell Sprint pcs service I'm not going to comment on Time Warner...

12-29-2004, 2:58 PM	#4 (permalink)
larry Go Angels! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 12,954 Phone(s): LG Rumor Provider(s): Sprint Thanks: 17 Thanked 16 Times in 15 Posts Images: 146 My Auctions	Re: Time Warner to sell Sprint pcs service Time Warner serves my area.

12-29-2004, 2:58 PM	#5 (permalink)
jones Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,425 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Time Warner to sell Sprint pcs service i sure hope this is just a resell and not a precursor to another Mega-Merger. __________________ - 3 Billion GSM Users by 2009. - 700 GSM Carriers in 220 Countries - 82% of the Global Market 45,000 Cell Sites and Adding.

12-29-2004, 3:10 PM	#6 (permalink)
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12-29-2004, 8:34 PM	#8 (permalink)
danny boi Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: SoCali Posts: 1,119 Phone(s): BlackBerry Pearl 8120, Moto S9 StereoBT Headset Provider(s): T-Mobile USA Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Time Warner to sell Sprint pcs service Do customers think they are signing up with Sprint or do they think they'll be signing up with Time Warner Wireless? My same question applies to all the other MVNO's out there leasing Sprint airwaves. Do their phones say Sprint on them? Do their bills indicate they are using Sprint's network? If I buy a phone from a MVNO, can I take it to a Sprint store for service related issues? Would Sprint be able to access my account if I signed up through a MVNO? Sprint + MVNO's + Nextel + Partners + Merger = A lot of work. Poor employees. I can imagine some confusion starting to happen. Quarter earnings for net adds will continue to be confusing. Some magazines will include totals of all divisions while others will only post figures that Sprint sold on their own. AT&T will be the most confusing MVNO of all if the deal still falls through. Is this move strictly for profit, or is it an attempt to compete directly with the baby bells who can offer high speed internet and wireless locally? Maybe Sprint doesn't want to pay all the overhead associated with hiring their own employees and sees re-selling as a big money maker. Maybe Time Warner should buy everyone out including all partners and MVNO hopefulls. That way there will be one company, one name, one service, one brand. Less confusion. __________________ http://www.sticktogether.com/coverage/

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Fathead Cingular Troll=OK! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Pocatello, ID Posts: 1,017 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Time Warner to sell Sprint pcs service Qwest is doing the MVNO thing, and for the first bit of it, the phones were branded Sprint. Now they are branded Qwest. __________________ Content Deleted

12-30-2004, 1:47 AM	#10 (permalink)
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12-30-2004, 4:38 AM	#11 (permalink)
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12-30-2004, 11:00 AM	#13 (permalink)
agentHibby Iowa Cellular Guru Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: SID 150 or 1214 Posts: 3,470 Phone(s): Nokia 6256i, (retired) Motorola V120c, Timeport 270c, Nokia 252 (Airtouch) Provider(s): Verizon Wireless Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Time Warner to sell Sprint pcs service Thanks for the info Larry __________________ If Verizon can buy out their affiliates they would be better off.

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12-30-2004, 4:34 PM	#18 (permalink)
jones Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,425 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Time Warner to sell Sprint pcs service Cable companies are in a bitter fight with traditional phone carriers, such as SBC Communications Inc., BellSouth Corp. and Verizon Communications Inc., as both are trying to offer the full range of television programming, high-speed Internet, standard voice services and wireless. Cable has to sell wireless and they can't resell those they compete with.

12-31-2004, 1:47 AM	#19 (permalink)
larry Go Angels! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 12,954 Phone(s): LG Rumor Provider(s): Sprint Thanks: 17 Thanked 16 Times in 15 Posts Images: 146 My Auctions	Re: Time Warner to sell Sprint pcs service Another reason is that Sprint serves every urban market natively while the other larger carriers are all missing a few.

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