Sony Ericsson to unveil RAZR rival early '07

[jones]

http://today.reuters.com/news/articl...c=66&type=qcna

[ruddy64]

Originally Posted by jones

http://today.reuters.com/news/articl...c=66&type=qcna

Wow, 30% slimmer than Razr. I would love to see the picture of it.

[josephd]

So far I am happy with my SE so I would be curious as well to some pics of the phone.

[nKrypteD1]

Scotsboyuk for the early picture!

[Fire14]

Originally Posted by josephd

So far I am happy with my SE so I would be curious as well to some pics of the phone.

They just won the JD Power award for the best handset, so I think that's going to give them a big boost, then add this phone & they may overtake Samsung.

Of course with the amount of Samsung's Cingular is pushing lately is kind of scary, I am still apprehensive of Samsung since the last one I had.

I went to a store in Denville today to see Jeff Burton's #31 Cingular car & other then the Razr's there is only 1 other Moto being sold by them, and most of the phones were Samsung's & SE's with a bunch of smartphones & pda's & 2 Nokia's.

Did Motorola loose some clout with Cingular or just a smaller line of GSM model phones being made available ?

[josephd]

Originally Posted by Fire14

They just won the JD Power award for the best handset, so I think that's going to give them a big boost, then add this phone & they may overtake Samsung.

Of course with the amount of Samsung's Cingular is pushing lately is kind of scary, I am still apprehensive of Samsung since the last one I had.

I went to a store in Denville today to see Jeff Burton's #31 Cingular car & other then the Razr's there is only 1 other Moto being sold by them, and most of the phones were Samsung's & SE's with a bunch of smartphones & pda's & 2 Nokia's.

Did Motorola loose some clout with Cingular or just a smaller line of GSM model phones being made available ?

I don't know Tom, Moto has some good handsets but that has been one of my gripes with Cingular.... too many Moto's. I bought my SE to find a replacement to my 6230 and so far I am quite happy with it's RF and build quality.

[MOTOhooligan]

Originally Posted by josephd

...that has been one of my gripes with Cingular.... too many Moto's.

Wha-? Too many Motos? That sentence makes no sense to me. I mean, I understand what the words mean but that sentence is just gibberish. The way you've combined the words... it... it... it's just not right!



Actually I understand what you're saying. I've always sort of liked S-E handsets and I'm surprised they really haven't taken off in the US. They're huge in Europe, though. I hope this S-E RAZR-killer helps them in the US.

[josephd]

Originally Posted by MOTOhooligan

Wha-? Too many Motos? That sentence makes no sense to me. I mean, I understand what the words mean but that sentence is just gibberish. The way you've combined the words... it... it... it's just not right!



Actually I understand what you're saying. I've always sort of liked S-E handsets and I'm surprised they really haven't taken off in the US. They're huge in Europe, though. I hope this S-E RAZR-killer helps them in the US.

I figure you were going to post something relevant or encouraging here about the new SE. But how does that not make any sense is it because you prefer Motos's? Look at Cingular's website do we really need 6 different RAZRS., 2 L7'S, and 2 SLVRS? They offer nothing for Nokia or SE.
I am still curious as to when we get to see a pic of it, I have not had my SE long enough to determine it's credibility but so far it has been a good phone.

[scotsboyuk]

Click here for information on Ai (the ultra slim handset), and other upcoming SE handsets.

I should perhaps point out that Ai isn't really a rival to the RAZR, the RAZR being total mince when it comes to specs. Expect Ai to have 3G (possibly HSDPA), which means video calling too. It will basically have the same specifications as the W850 as far as I know. There is also the fact that the RAZR has been out for a while now and everyone and their uncle has one.

Just to note, the picture at the top of that thread is a photoshop of a real SE handset codenamed Melinda, but the chap who did the photoshop isn't allowed to post the real picture. The photoshoped image is accurate as to what it will look like.

If anyone can read Chinese please contact me.

[josephd]

Originally Posted by scotsboyuk

Click here for information on Ai (the ultra slim handset), and other upcoming SE handsets.

I should perhaps point out that Ai isn't really a rival to the RAZR, the RAZR being total mince when it comes to specs. Expect Ai to have 3G (possibly HSDPA), which means video calling too. It will basically have the same specifications as the W850 as far as I know. There is also the fact that the RAZR has been out for a while now and everyone and their uncle has one.

Just to note, the picture at the top of that thread is a photoshop of a real SE handset codenamed Melinda, but the chap who did the photoshop isn't allowed to post the real picture. The photoshoped image is accurate as to what it will look like.

If anyone can read Chinese please contact me.

Thank-you for the info.

[scotsboyuk]

I just saw a chap on Mobile-Review say that he had seen Ai, and that it was running W850 firmware, so that should tell you something if it's true.

[josephd]

Originally Posted by scotsboyuk

I just saw a chap on Mobile-Review say that he had seen Ai, and that it was running W850 firmware, so that should tell you something if it's true.

I don't see the W850 on SE's website is that another upcoming phone?

[scotsboyuk]

@josephd

No, it's been out for a month or two, I have one myself. Here is the SE W850 webpage. If you were looking on the U.S. SE site it won't show up there since it isn't on sale in the U.S.

[josephd]

Thank-you for the link, it is nice phone although I am not a big fan of slider phones.

[scotsboyuk]

Originally Posted by josephd

Thank-you for the link, it is nice phone although I am not a big fan of slider phones.

It's the first slider I have had since Nokia's 'Matrix phone'. It's also SE's first slider, and I have to say that I really like it. I liked my W900, but it was rather bulky, so the W850 is a step up for me. I also have a K800 for my imaging needs.

[josephd]

Originally Posted by scotsboyuk

It's the first slider I have had since Nokia's 'Matrix phone'. It's also SE's first slider, and I have to say that I really like it. I liked my W900, but it was rather bulky, so the W850 is a step up for me. I also have a K800 for my imaging needs.

If I have good luck with my W810i SE will be my phone of choice,so far I am impressed with it's quality and as I said I love the UI of SE.

[scotsboyuk]

@josephd

I can't really comment on the UI because I have used SE handsets for so long that I have grown very used to it, and thus would probably have something of a biased view with regards to other UIs. I'm not sure about the reception, all the handsets sound pretty much the same here, although I imagine that a handset with very poor reception would be noticeable.

[MOTOhooligan]

Originally Posted by josephd

I figure you were going to post something relevant or encouraging here about the new SE. But how does that not make any sense is it because you prefer Motos's? Look at Cingular's website do we really need 6 different RAZRS., 2 L7'S, and 2 SLVRS?

No, I totally agree with you. There is no need for that many phones. I understand people want colour choices to be "unique" but I'm sick of pink RAZRs, blue RAZRs, silver RAZRs, gun metal RAZRs... the only ones I think is fine are the (RED) RAZRs & SLVRs which go towards AIDS research.

T-Mobile is just as bad or worse... four different colours of PEBL, only the black one is attractive, IMHO and then they've got six different RAZRs, the v180, the v188, the v195, the v330, and the v360. Then, they have the Samsung t609, Samsung t309, Samsung t209 in red and blue, Samsung t319, Samsung t509s, Samsung t619, Samsung Trace, Samsung t629 and Samsung t729. So, out of 40 available phones, 15 are Motorolas and 10 are Samsungs, that's more than half the phones from only two manufacturers. At least we've got some Nokias to choose from.

For me, though, Motorola is #1 and Samsung is #2, so this isn't really a bad thing for me but I could see how other people would be upset by it. Wish T-Mobile had some S-E phones. They used to have a few but haven't in a while... at least that I've seen.

[YourDream84]

The only SE I've ever owned died on me w/in a matter of months. So I most definitely won't be going back to SE.

I've never had a problem with Nokia or Motorola, so that's where I'm sticking.

~*Ash*~

[scotsboyuk]

Originally Posted by YourDream84

The only SE I've ever owned died on me w/in a matter of months. So I most definitely won't be going back to SE.

I've never had a problem with Nokia or Motorola, so that's where I'm sticking.

~*Ash*~

I wouldn't let a single incident with a particular handset sour my view of a manufacturer. It could be entirely the case that the handset you had was faulty, for example, and not necessarily a testament to SE's overall quality.

[YourDream84]

Originally Posted by scotsboyuk

It could be entirely the case that the handset you had was faulty, for example, and not necessarily a testament to SE's overall quality.

I might agree if I hadnt of had to go thru 4 different handsets before I finally gave up. and Ive heard from tons of others who had the exact same problem.

[scotsboyuk]

Originally Posted by YourDream84

I might agree if I hadnt of had to go thru 4 different handsets before I finally gave up. and Ive heard from tons of others who had the exact same problem.

That's rather unfortunate. Perhaps a bad batch? Out of interest, which handset was it?

[josephd]

Originally Posted by scotsboyuk

Click here for information on Ai (the ultra slim handset), and other upcoming SE handsets.

I should perhaps point out that Ai isn't really a rival to the RAZR, the RAZR being total mince when it comes to specs. Expect Ai to have 3G (possibly HSDPA), which means video calling too. It will basically have the same specifications as the W850 as far as I know. There is also the fact that the RAZR has been out for a while now and everyone and their uncle has one.

Just to note, the picture at the top of that thread is a photoshop of a real SE handset codenamed Melinda, but the chap who did the photoshop isn't allowed to post the real picture. The photoshoped image is accurate as to what it will look like.

If anyone can read Chinese please contact me.

I am not against Moto handsets and I did give the SLVR a look it is a classy looking handset.But you would think for such a pricey handset it would have EDGE and a megapixel camera.

[YourDream84]

Originally Posted by scotsboyuk

That's rather unfortunate. Perhaps a bad batch? Out of interest, which handset was it?

The z520a and z525a.

[scotsboyuk]

Originally Posted by YourDream84

The z520a and z525a.

I'm afraid I don't have experience with either of thos handsets. I wonder if it was a widespread problem?

[scotsboyuk]

Some new information about Ai.

[Fire14]

Originally Posted by scotsboyuk

Some new information about Ai.

Well by that picture it sure does look thin, but reading the information on it doesn't sound that promising, too many poor sounding qualities with the small keypad & sharp edges vs rounded (which the picture seems to show rounded edges).

It will be interesting to see what it really looks like & if the report is true.

[scotsboyuk]

I wouldn't be too disheartened by the apparently negative aspects of the handset, beauty is in the eye of the beholder after all.

[Fire14]

Originally Posted by scotsboyuk

I wouldn't be too disheartened by the apparently negative aspects of the handset, beauty is in the eye of the beholder after all.

That's very true.

[MOTOhooligan]

Originally Posted by Fire14

Well by that picture it sure does look thin, but reading the information on it doesn't sound that promising, too many poor sounding qualities with the small keypad & sharp edges vs rounded (which the picture seems to show rounded edges).

That picture is not of the Ai. The article states the Ai's thickness, "is comparable to the thickness of the top part of the W850i slider mechanism." That pic is of the W850i, the Ai is as thick as just the slider on the pictured W850.