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    Default AWS/Cingular/Triton enigma solved! Cingular to serve all top 100 cities!

    Deal paves way for Cingular to serve all top 100 cities as Triton PCS ends AT&Ticon Wireless relationship and gains key service in North Carolina, Puerto Rico

    ATLANTA, REDMOND, WA AND BERWYN, PA -- July 8, 2004 -- Cingular Wireless, AT&Ticon Wireless (NYSE:AWE), and Triton PCS (NYSE: TPC) announced today they have signed a non-binding letter of intent that - contingent on closing of Cingular's acquisition of AT&Ticon Wireless - would give Cingular expanded wireless service in Virginia and Triton PCS added coverage in North Carolina as well as entry into Puerto Rico.

    Under the terms of the letter of intent, Cingular would receive Triton PCS's network assets and customers in Virginia. Triton PCS would receive certain AT&T Wireless network assets and customers in North Carolina and Puerto Rico, plus $175 million in cash from Cingular. Employees in the affected markets will transition with the business.

    Additionally, Triton PCS and AT&T Wireless have entered into definitive agreements to terminate the stockholder agreement, which includes termination of an exclusivity arrangement in return for the surrender of AT&T Wireless' equity in Triton PCS. The parties also agreed that Triton PCS would have exclusive right to the SunCom brand. With these agreements, Triton PCS will be able to compete beyond its current footprint and Cingular will provide continuing service in areas where Triton PCS currently has operations.

    Further, Triton PCS and Cingular will enter into a new long-term, reciprocal roaming agreement, which will allow Cingular and Triton PCS subscribers to benefit from Cingular's extensive nationwide network and Triton PCS's strong regional network.

    "Our agreements with Triton PCS build on our planned acquisition of AT&T Wireless. When all are finalized, we will have spectrum and coverage in all top 100 U.S. metro areas -- yet another move in delivering on our promise to be the premier wireless carrier in the U.S.," said Stan Sigman, President & CEO of Cingular Wireless. "The agreement also promotes competition by creating a strong new regional provider in North Carolina."

    "With more than a 30% increase in covered POPs and a new presence in the high-growth North Carolina markets of Charlotte, Raleigh/Durham and Greensboro, these agreements boost Triton PCS's growth prospects and position the company to continue as a leading wireless carrier in the Southeast," said Michael E. Kalogris, Triton PCS Chairman and CEO. "This, combined with our entry into Puerto Rico, will reduce our dependency on roaming revenue and dramatically reduce future roaming expense. Our
    agreements also recognize the great value we have built in our Virginia operations."

    The closing of all of the agreements are contingent upon closing of
    Cingular's acquisition of AT&T Wireless. The letter of intent is subject to negotiation and execution of definitive agreements and standard regulatory approvals. The companies expect the Cingular/AT&T Wireless merger to be approved and finalized in 2004.


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    Default Re: Cingular to serve all top 100 cities as Triton PCS ends AT&T Wireless relationship

    By Yuki Noguchi
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    Thursday, July 8, 2004; Page E05


    Cingular Wireless LLC and AT&Ticon Wireless Services Inc., which plan to merge, have agreed to pay $175 million and give up some cellular capacity elsewhere to strengthen their signals in Virginia, according to a source close to the companies.

    The cell phone companies would turn over some of their cellular network in North Carolina and Puerto Rico in exchange for Triton PCS Holdings Inc.'s network in Virginia, which includes Richmond, Roanoke, Charlottesville and Norfolk, according to the source, who requested anonymity because the deal is scheduled to be announced today.

    Cingular, which hopes to close its $41 billion merger with AT&Ticon Wireless by the end of the year, does not have any airwave licenses in those parts of Virginia. It has had to rely on roaming agreements with other carriers for its customers to get service in those areas.

    The deal would reduce the roaming charges paid by some Cingular customers, as well as the amount the company has to pay to send phone calls over other carriers' networks. AT&Ticon Wireless also would return its 17 percent ownership in Triton to the company in exchange for an agreement to pay lower rates to use Triton's network.

    In addition, Cingular would get Triton's 400,000 Virginia customers and 300 employees in Virginia. Roughly the same number of AT&T Wireless employees and customers in North Carolina and Puerto Rico would transfer to Triton. That transfer would not occur until Cingular's merger with AT&T Wireless is complete.

    Atlanta-based Cingular hopes that saying it would divest network and assets to Triton will help its merger win regulatory approval. The combined Cingular and AT&T Wireless would be the dominant carrier in some North Carolina markets. The merger is under antitrust review by the Department of Justice and the Federal Communications Commission.

    Triton, based in Berwyn, Pa., is an affiliate company with agreements to allow its customers to use AT&T Wireless's network outside of Triton's coverage area. AT&T Wireless customers also roam onto Triton's network. As of March 31, Triton had 919,906 customers in the Southeast. It plans to continue to provide the reciprocal roaming agreements.




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    Default Re: Cingular to serve all top 100 cities as Triton PCS ends AT&T Wireless relationship

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    Default Re: AWS/Cingular/Triton enigma solved! Cingular to serve all top 100 cities!

    Sounds like a great deal! I'm really impressed with Cingular's management. The merger may be more seamless than competitors think.

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    Question Re: AWS/Cingular/Triton enigma solved! Cingular to serve all top 100 cities!

    Just asking how could Cingular cover all of Top 100 cites when one of them is in Puerto Rico? San Jaun #22 of the top 100??

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    Default Re: AWS/Cingular/Triton enigma solved! Cingular to serve all top 100 cities!

    Because they are not losing Puerto Rico. What they are doing is giving Triton the AWS network in PR, not Cingular's.

    In the end Cingular is gaining some markets, not losing any.

    Watch for Cingular/AWS posting the new revised Spectrum Aggregation Chart, Coverage Map, and Competitor's chart with the FCC in the next few days.
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    Default Re: AWS/Cingular/Triton enigma solved! Cingular to serve all top 100 cities!

    ok
    Thankyou bobolito for the info.
    Cingular will be the first to make it in all of the top 100 markets for a Cellular/PCS company. I think Nextelicon is already there??

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    I'm impressed at Cingular.. I can't wait until the merge is completed

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    Default Re: AWS/Cingular/Triton enigma solved! Cingular to serve all top 100 cities!

    Quote Originally Posted by agentHibby
    ok
    Thankyou bobolito for the info.
    Cingular will be the first to make it in all of the top 100 markets for a Cellular/PCS company. I think Nextelicon is already there??
    Does Nextelicon have service in Puerto Rico?

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    I was thinking that Nextelicon had service only in San Juan. I gues I was wrong so they are 99 out of 100.

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    Default Re: AWS/Cingular/Triton enigma solved! Cingular to serve all top 100 cities!

    Nextelicon has service in the top 100 already. They accomplished this in 2001.
    http://dc.internet.com/news/print.php/941091

    I believe Sprinticon PCS has all top 100 as well.

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    Default Re: AWS/Cingular/Triton enigma solved! Cingular to serve all top 100 cities!

    Quote Originally Posted by Etorres777
    I'm impressed at Cingular.. I can't wait until the merge is completed
    They have accomplished a lot in just 4 years. More so than any of the carriers combined:

    - Integrated SBC and BLS wireless operations.
    - Entered NYC while allowing T-Mobileicon to enter the west coast.
    - Pushed the development of GAIT technology.
    - Converted all its TDMA to GSM.
    - Triggered the development of GSM 850.
    - Installed the first operating EDGE network in the world.
    - Beat one of the world's largest carriers (Vodafone) in a fierce auction.
    - It is buying what once was the largest US wireless carrier.
    - It will become the largest wireless US operator.
    - The biggest threat to Verizonicon to date.
    - Growing from the lower end spectrum holder to the richest spectrum holder.
    - Pushed T-Mobileicon growth in the west coast and Triton growth.
    - Has gone from a major roaming buyer to a major roaming seller.
    - Just wait and see what they have in store for 3G.

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    Default Re: AWS/Cingular/Triton enigma solved! Cingular to serve all top 100 cities!

    The article states that "Cingular" will serve the top 100 markets. How can they make that claim when Cingular still does not list Phoenix, Arizona, one of the top markets on their drop-down list, off of their own website???

    Or will Cingular, once the merger is complete, just overtake ATTWSicon's network? I'm so curious about this. Thanks for the insight...

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    Default Re: AWS/Cingular/Triton enigma solved! Cingular to serve all top 100 cities!

    Quote Originally Posted by sstrosberg
    The article states that "Cingular" will serve the top 100 markets. How can they make that claim when Cingular still does not list Phoenix, Arizona, one of the top markets on their drop-down list, off of their own website???

    Or will Cingular, once the merger is complete, just overtake ATTWSicon's network? I'm so curious about this. Thanks for the insight...
    What are the top 100 markets in the U.S. If my city is ranked 23 largest in U.S. is it included in the top 100 markets? (El Paso, Texas)?

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    Default Re: AWS/Cingular/Triton enigma solved! Cingular to serve all top 100 cities!

    Quote Originally Posted by Etorres777
    What are the top 100 markets in the U.S. If my city is ranked 23 largest in U.S. is it included in the top 100 markets? (El Paso, Texas)?
    Is sure is

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    Default Re: AWS/Cingular/Triton enigma solved! Cingular to serve all top 100 cities!

    So what exactly does this mean for me, as a Suncom customer? Is this good news? Do I understand it correctly that Suncom customers will be able to roam on Cingular networks? Thanks to anyone who can clarify for me

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    Default Re: AWS/Cingular/Triton enigma solved! Cingular to serve all top 100 cities!

    Quote Originally Posted by sstrosberg
    The article states that "Cingular" will serve the top 100 markets. How can they make that claim when Cingular still does not list Phoenix, Arizona, one of the top markets on their drop-down list, off of their own website???

    Or will Cingular, once the merger is complete, just overtake ATTWSicon's network? I'm so curious about this. Thanks for the insight...
    Cingular has not completed the acquisition of AT&Ticon Wireless. Once they do that, they will be available in Phoenix. As you said, they will take over AT&Ticon Wireless network.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerkelly
    So what exactly does this mean for me, as a Suncom customer? Is this good news? Do I understand it correctly that Suncom customers will be able to roam on Cingular networks? Thanks to anyone who can clarify for me
    It will probably mean nothing depending where you are. However, if you are in Virginia you will run the same luck as the rest of the AT&Ticon Wireless customers, namely, you will become a Cingular customer.

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    Default Re: AWS/Cingular/Triton enigma solved! Cingular to serve all top 100 cities!

    Quote Originally Posted by bobolito
    Cingular has not completed the acquisition of AT&Ticon Wireless. Once they do that, they will be available in Phoenix. As you said, they will take over AT&Ticon Wireless network.
    Do you, or anyone else know if Cingular will build out their AZ GSM Network any further once the merger is complete?

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    Default Re: AWS/Cingular/Triton enigma solved! Cingular to serve all top 100 cities!

    In northern Jersey and NY City Metro and LI, CINGULAR does not have any CELL Sites because they were riding on T-Mobile.
    However ATTWSicon has a Lot.
    Moving their existing customers to ATTWSicon network will be quite a challenge.
    Some cell sites both ATTWSicon and T-Mobile are colocated and some are not.
    I wonder which signal their customers will pick up when they're located in the same Tower.

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    Default Re: AWS/Cingular/Triton enigma solved! Cingular to serve all top 100 cities!

    Wirelessly posted (Samsung i600: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows CE; Smartphone; 176x220))

    good non binding plan...

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    Default Re: AWS/Cingular/Triton enigma solved! Cingular to serve all top 100 cities!

    Quote Originally Posted by jones
    In northern Jersey and NY City Metro and LI, CINGULAR does not have any CELL Sites because they were riding on T-Mobile.
    However ATTWSicon has a Lot.
    Moving their existing customers to ATTWSicon network will be quite a challenge.
    Some cell sites both ATTWSicon and T-Mobile are colocated and some are not.
    I wonder which signal their customers will pick up when they're located in the same Tower.
    Well, officially, the towers belong to both T-Mobile and Cingular according to the sharing agreement. Once the agreement is terminated (Feb 2005) T-Mobile will regain full ownership of the towers. Right now, it is 50/50.

    Moving existing customers to AWS will be simpler than thought. First, the AWS LAC will be opened and that will allow Cingular customers automatically use AWS towers with no other changes. Secondly, a new OTA will be needed so that Cingular phones begin treating AWS towers as their home towers instead of T-Mobile's. In the end, the procedure will be simpler than combining two networks like they will be doing in other areas.

    If both T-Mo and AWS have panels in the same tower, the phone will logically prefer AWS because that will be the home network. T-Mobile will be treated as a roaming partner and phones will be using it only if the AWS signal is not available which is a rare scenario in this area.

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    Default Re: AWS/Cingular/Triton enigma solved! Cingular to serve all top 100 cities!

    This is great news. I for one, was not thrilled with T-Mobileicon in VA. I had too many problems with it. Seems like Cingular is going to be everywhere!

    SS, I am sure Cingular will continue to improve service in AZ. ATTicon is already pretty good. Cingular just may be an option for you next year.

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    Default Re: AWS/Cingular/Triton enigma solved! Cingular to serve all top 100 cities!

    Airb,

    How do you like your Cingular GSM service? Where do you use it?

    I asked the following on Hofo and will ask here to see if anyone knows.

    I'm in Chicago which is of course was the big spot for Ameritech but taken over for quite some time by SBC. For SBC landline users are there any special pricing packages or discounts for choosing Cingular Wireless?

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    Default Re: AWS/Cingular/Triton enigma solved! Cingular to serve all top 100 cities!

    Well after digging around for quite a bit I think I found it...

    SBC Total Connections is a money saving bundle that offers a residential phone line, a package of custom calling features, SBC long distance services, Internet access and wireless service on one convenient SBC bill. Order SBC Yahoo! DSL with your SBC Total Connections bundle for a one-year term for as low as $26.95* per month — our lowest price available for high-speed Internet access. And with Cingular® Wireless, you'll save $5.00 off the regular monthly price if you are a new customer.

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    Default Re: AWS/Cingular/Triton enigma solved! Cingular to serve all top 100 cities!

    I'm a current AWS customer. I also have SBC. When the merge is complete will it be possible to get the bills combined but, technically i'm not a new costumer. So how does it work out in the end?

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    Default Re: AWS/Cingular/Triton enigma solved! Cingular to serve all top 100 cities!

    Quote Originally Posted by Kenny
    Well after digging around for quite a bit I think I found it...

    SBC Total Connections is a money saving bundle that offers a residential phone line, a package of custom calling features, SBC long distance services, Internet access and wireless service on one convenient SBC bill. Order SBC Yahoo! DSL with your SBC Total Connections bundle for a one-year term for as low as $26.95* per month — our lowest price available for high-speed Internet access. And with Cingular® Wireless, you'll save $5.00 off the regular monthly price if you are a new customer.
    Kenny...I'm in the Chicago area too . My girlfriends mom and brother both got Cingular service through SBC with the discount, etc. All I have to say is DON'T DO IT! Go to a Cingular store and purchase your service seperately....here's why.....

    They got their phones shut off due to lack of payment. What happened is they sent all money owed this past April (for landline, DSL and cell phones) and they got a disconnection notice. So she called Cingular and they said that they never received the payment from SBC, and they told her she needed to contact SBC to find out why they haven't submitted Cingular's portion of the money. She called SBC and they said "We submitted the money to Cingular, you have to call them." She called Cingular back, they confirmed, they haven't received the money for the cell phone portion. Blah blah blah, nobody would do anything, and they all blamed the other one. So both the phones got shut off due to "lack of payment" for march's bill. They had to pay the $36 re-connection fee. I don't know how this ended up, I think they eventually found the money, somewhere.

    Bottom line is, your money and service are at the mercy of these 2 computer systems working together and the people running them. One small wrong key punch by an employee or some network hic-up and BAM. Your check may register as being cashed or deposited by them, but ooops your money is "missing". I wouldn't take the chance on service interuption and someone "losing" my money somewhere.

    My girlfriend wanted to get a phone through our SBC service and I said " NO! You know what happened to your mom and brother.."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Etorres777
    I'm a current AWS customer. I also have SBC. When the merge is complete will it be possible to get the bills combined but, technically i'm not a new costumer. So how does it work out in the end?
    Eddie...see my above post about SBC/Cingular same bill. I would keep them seperate

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    Shizam, thanks for the info!

    How do you like Cingular's GSM service throughout the greater Chicago area?

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    Default Re: AWS/Cingular/Triton enigma solved! Cingular to serve all top 100 cities!

    Kenny....it works for me just fine. They have awesome coverage in Chicagoland. I can't tell you when I had a call drop on me...it's been a while. Plus, if you go into a building and the signal gets weak, it will switch to AT&Ticon GSM or even Tmobileicon in certain places. With my GAIT phone I also can get signal where others can't, because I can fall back on TDMA if needed

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