T-Mobile To Offer WIFI Home CALLS, No More Home Dead Zone

[jones]

Cell Phones to Make WiFi Calls
ARTICLE DATE: 02.08.06

By Sascha Segan
Chipmaker Royal Philips Electronics confirmed that a U.S. cellular carrier will launch voice-over-Wi-Fi technology this year, based on Philips' new Nexperia 6120 chipset. Callers should be able to make calls on their home Wi-Fi networks for "a couple of bucks a month, flat rate," according to Philips' Carsten Schimanke.

The Nexperia 6120 chipset is in the Samsung SGH-T709 phone, Schimanke said. We saw the T709 at CES, and it's a slender, attractive slider phone. The solution uses Philips' BGW211 802.11g WLAN chipset, according to the company. The chipset adds about $12 to the price of a phone, Schimanke said.


Nexperia's UMA technology lets calls "tunnel" from Wi-Fi access points, through the Internet, and onto a cellular network. From there, the calls will be tracked by the carriers billing system and forwarded along to their destination.

Philips would not identify their carrier partner. But the Samsung T709 we saw at CES showed options to connect to T-Mobile Hotspots as well as home networks. T-Mobile is leveraging its Wi-Fi network as a competitor to other carriers' 3G high-speed cellular systems. With UMA, every home with a wireless LAN and every Starbucks becomes a place with full bars of signal, and that's compelling.

When we asked T-Mobile about UMA, spokesman David Henderson released this statement: "T-Mobile absolutely believes the future will be about leveraging diverse forms of radio access technology for our customers and UMA, we think, is one of the technologies that will help us continue to deliver on that promise."

Philips also announced a DTM (dual transfer mode) solution which will enable simultaneous voice and data transfer over EDGE networks, approximating the capabilities of the new 3G UMTS/HSDPA systems.

This would enable things like video calling and simultaneous phone calling/Web browsing which are selling points for European 3G networks, and haven't even been introduced here in the US yet. The goal is to offer 3G services even when you're outside 3G coverage areas, Schimanke said.

"Though UMTS coverage is growing among major metro areas and highways, there will always be some white spots which will be covered by GSM/EDGE," he said. "This allows operators to have the same experience in UMTS or EDGE coverage."

Cingular would be the obvious customer for this technology in the USA, but they haven't released any handsets for their newly-relaunched UMTS/HSDPA network yet. Seeing that we're behind in the UMTS field, Philips is building their DTM solution for the UK first, with a US version to follow, Schimanke said.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,1923274,00.asp

[jones]

VOIP Calls are Tax Free by Congress.
So T-Mobile can Offer Unlimited Calling at Home.
This is the End of Indoor Dead Zone
Like your Home/Apartment
and where there's T-Mobile WIFI like
Borders, Starbucks, Airports...

For cellular phone users, the building’s outside walls seriously degrade the signal from the nearest cellular base station.
VZW Fans read this and WEEP.



Admin Edit: I had to remove the pictures. Please don't link directly to pictures on other sites.

[Yankees368]

woah, thats cool. Sure beats the very expensive home repeater solution that some people use.

[Fathead]

Originally Posted by jones

For cellular phone users, the building’s outside walls seriously degrade the signal from the nearest cellular base station.
VZW Fans read this and WEEP.

Why would I weep? I get a perfectly good signal in my house, and I certainly get a better signal in most areas around town than those with T-Mobile.


That's good news for T-Mobile users, but it's not the end of the world for other carriers.

[Critic]

Originally Posted by Fathead

Why would I weep? I get a perfectly good signal in my house, and I certainly get a better signal in most areas around town than those with T-Mobile.


That's good news for T-Mobile users, but it's not the end of the world for other carriers.

You took the words right out of my mouth, Fathead.

[jones]

Originally Posted by Fathead

Why would I weep?

cuz you will not get Tax free unlimited calling.
VOIP Calling will Not be deducted on Your Minutes.

There are still many residential areas/apartments which
has no Indoor Reception.
And since there are Now more
broadband than Dial Up
this is better than 3G.

[Fathead]

Originally Posted by jones

cuz you will not get Tax free unlimited calling.
VOIP Calling will Not be deducted on Your Minutes.

There are still many residential areas/apartments which
has no Indoor Reception.
And since there are Now more
broadband than Dial Up
this is better than 3G.

Please read this very carefully, jones.


I do not need tax free unlimited calling. I get a good signal in my house and don't use all the minutes I have now. When I leave my house, almost everywhere I go has a good signal. The few places that don't are not places where there are wifi hotspots. So this feature means absolutely zip to me personally. I would not gain anything by having this feature other than a new phone that I don't want or need right now. And I would lose coverage by switching to T-Mobile. I'm sure that there are users that this will benefit, but I'm not one of them. So there is no cause for me to weep.

[walkguru]

Originally Posted by Fathead

Please read this very carefully, jones.


I do not need tax free unlimited calling. I get a good signal in my house and don't use all the minutes I have now. When I leave my house, almost everywhere I go has a good signal. The few places that don't are not places where there are wifi hotspots. So this feature means absolutely zip to me personally. I would not gain anything by having this feature other than a new phone that I don't want or need right now. And I would lose coverage by switching to T-Mobile. I'm sure that there are users that this will benefit, but I'm not one of them. So there is no cause for me to weep.

i thought this thread was about tmo, not versin. gotta love the way you guys run the other providers threads and bad mouth it.















anyway, back on subject, that sound pretty cool, maybe we can get that, too.

[Yankees368]

Originally Posted by walkguru

i thought this thread was about tmo, not versin. gotta love the way you guys run the other providers threads and bad mouth it.

anyway, back on subject, that sound pretty cool, maybe we can get that, too.

How exactly would this work on a wifi-network that requires authentication. I know that on campus you have to enter your user-name and password to do anything. Will this work on the phones?

[Fathead]

Originally Posted by walkguru

i thought this thread was about tmo, not versin. gotta love the way you guys run the other providers threads and bad mouth it.















anyway, back on subject, that sound pretty cool, maybe we can get that, too.

Learn to read please. In jones 2nd post he typed this:

For cellular phone users, the building’s outside walls seriously degrade the signal from the nearest cellular base station.
VZW Fans read this and WEEP.

I asked him why I should weep when I have no need of this service. He then said it was because tax free unlimited calling would be available, even though I had just said that I have no need for the service. I then proceeded to explain a second time that I have no need for the service.


If jones didn't take every opportunity to try and belittle VZW and it's users, then I wouldn't have said anything.

[walkguru]

Originally Posted by Fathead

Learn to read please. In jones 2nd post he typed this:





I asked him why I should weep when I have no need of this service. He then said it was because tax free unlimited calling would be available, even though I had just said that I have no need for the service. I then proceeded to explain a second time that I have no need for the service.


If jones didn't take every opportunity to try and belittle VZW and it's users, then I wouldn't have said anything.

i can read quite well, thanks. and i dont need some smart mouth from you.


ive only been here a little while, but have noticed, how you versin fan boys are quick to jump on other providers threads and smart off, how old are you guys anyway are you all rejects from hofo

as for me i dont give a rats *** what proverdier you have. if it works for you then thats great. but you dont need to run around bad mouthing everthing else. for christ sakes get a ***king life.

[Matt]

This thread has outlived its usefullness. Let's keep the smack talk out of WA. Thanks.