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TKR · 02-08-2002, 12:11 PM

My question is does digital handoff to analog without a call drop actually work for any carrier? (It does not for Sprint, I guess since they have no AMPS of their own)

Or is analog only a backup in case no digital signal can be found, but not there to take a handoff from a digital connection.

Hman · 02-08-2002, 2:01 PM

When switching from one carrier to another, I don't know of any. When using the same carrier, no problem.

Hman

TKR · 02-08-2002, 5:19 PM

....."When using the same carrier, no problem."......

Then might this be the reason some people complain about Sprint PCS, the fact that they have no analog of their own, therefore no clean handoff??

Maybe users used to a provider that has both digital and AMPS in their own network are used to a clean handoff, so they don't realize how often they actually lose their digital signal?

Just curious.

Apoc · 03-27-2002, 11:02 PM

slop pop!!

Jack · 03-27-2002, 11:16 PM

Wireless providers that currently have a amps system have better handoff then ones that do not.

Jack

erub · 03-27-2002, 11:29 PM

with Cingular TDMA, my phone (Nokia 3360) has occassionaly switched to AMPS while in a call; in these 2 or 3 instances (all in metro Dallas, I might add) the call was dropped.

Apoc · 03-27-2002, 11:34 PM

mmmm////pizza!!

KevinJames · 03-28-2002, 12:12 AM

eh? pahk

larry · 03-28-2002, 12:19 AM

In response to TKR: even if this so called clean handoff were possible between different carriers I don't think Sprint would implement it simply because their customers wouldn't know that they were roaming and therefore being charged extra. It would open the door for too many complaints, know what I mean?

She · 03-28-2002, 1:00 AM

Can you tell me why I should choose Sprint over Nextel?
Any help in this decision of mine would be greatly appreciated!

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larry · 03-28-2002, 1:55 AM

I can't comment on Nextel because I've never used it but it's usually geared more towards businesses. I personally wouldn't use them because I don't need the two way radio feature and don't like their phones. Do they even offer service in Redding?

Jack · 03-28-2002, 9:35 PM

There new line of phones is nice. If you go nextel go with the i90 or i1000 (2nd choice) if you want a flip and if that does not matter to you go with the i85s

Jack

Dukedog · 03-29-2002, 12:22 AM

When you are you switching tower the MTSO (Mobile Telephone Switching Office)contacts the Cell Site that closest to the area where you are traveling and the hand yo over to the one that's generating the strongest signal;it does matter if it digital or analog. That how some people roam sometimes in there on home area, because it picking up the other carrier signal.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

CDANMA · 04-07-2002, 7:55 PM

well you are right about the first part, but your phone is programmed to scan your carriers freq. so you will not hand off to another carrier unless it is done by the MTSO.(Also your phone has to be capable of handing off to the other carriers freq. 800 or 1900 also tech. matters too) Which most carriers do not have multicarrier hand offs because you have to have a T1 beween the two carriers (MTSO) to facility the traffic hand off. It also doesn't work everytime when it is setup, which causes dropped calls.

Also the hand off between Digital and AMPS does work pretty well intersystemly. But you do have to realize you phone has to rescan to a different freq. which leaves a chance of dropping a call ..... I don't know of a system that can hand AMPS back to CDMA, but you can hand AMPS back to TDMA. If someone know a system that can hand CDMA back to AMPS please reply. Lucent and Nortel can't ....

02-08-2002, 12:11 PM	#1 (permalink)
TKR Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 445 Provider(s): AT&T Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	digital/analog handoff?? My question is does digital handoff to analog without a call drop actually work for any carrier? (It does not for Sprint, I guess since they have no AMPS of their own) Or is analog only a backup in case no digital signal can be found, but not there to take a handoff from a digital connection.

03-27-2002, 11:16 PM	#5 (permalink)
Jack Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,475 Phone(s): Motorola T720 Provider(s): Alltel Devices: Sirius Satellite radio, ipod, laptop, pda Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Wireless providers that currently have a amps system have better handoff then ones that do not. Jack __________________ Current Plan with alltel 3000 anytime minutes w/nationwide LD $74.95 a month---Waiting not so patiently for the Alltel version of the V710

03-28-2002, 9:35 PM	#12 (permalink)
Jack Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,475 Phone(s): Motorola T720 Provider(s): Alltel Devices: Sirius Satellite radio, ipod, laptop, pda Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	There new line of phones is nice. If you go nextel go with the i90 or i1000 (2nd choice) if you want a flip and if that does not matter to you go with the i85s Jack __________________ Current Plan with alltel 3000 anytime minutes w/nationwide LD $74.95 a month---Waiting not so patiently for the Alltel version of the V710

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TKR Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 445 Provider(s): AT&T Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	....."When using the same carrier, no problem."...... Then might this be the reason some people complain about Sprint PCS, the fact that they have no analog of their own, therefore no clean handoff?? Maybe users used to a provider that has both digital and AMPS in their own network are used to a clean handoff, so they don't realize how often they actually lose their digital signal? Just curious.

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erub Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 193 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	with Cingular TDMA, my phone (Nokia 3360) has occassionaly switched to AMPS while in a call; in these 2 or 3 instances (all in metro Dallas, I might add) the call was dropped.

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KevinJames WA's 1st retired mod Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Central Valley NorCA Posts: 2,588 Phone(s): Nokia 6126 Provider(s): the new AT&T Devices: Bluetooth devices--MotoHS820, Garmin Nuvi 660 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	eh? pahk

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larry Go Angels! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 12,953 Phone(s): LG Rumor Provider(s): Sprint Thanks: 17 Thanked 16 Times in 15 Posts Images: 146 My Auctions	In response to TKR: even if this so called clean handoff were possible between different carriers I don't think Sprint would implement it simply because their customers wouldn't know that they were roaming and therefore being charged extra. It would open the door for too many complaints, know what I mean?

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She Movin' on up! Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Can you tell me why I should choose Sprint over Nextel? Any help in this decision of mine would be greatly appreciated! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

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larry Go Angels! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 12,953 Phone(s): LG Rumor Provider(s): Sprint Thanks: 17 Thanked 16 Times in 15 Posts Images: 146 My Auctions	I can't comment on Nextel because I've never used it but it's usually geared more towards businesses. I personally wouldn't use them because I don't need the two way radio feature and don't like their phones. Do they even offer service in Redding?

03-29-2002, 12:22 AM	#13 (permalink)
Dukedog Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 571 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	When you are you switching tower the MTSO (Mobile Telephone Switching Office)contacts the Cell Site that closest to the area where you are traveling and the hand yo over to the one that's generating the strongest signal;it does matter if it digital or analog. That how some people roam sometimes in there on home area, because it picking up the other carrier signal.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

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04-07-2002, 7:55 PM	#14 (permalink)
CDANMA Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 110 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	well you are right about the first part, but your phone is programmed to scan your carriers freq. so you will not hand off to another carrier unless it is done by the MTSO.(Also your phone has to be capable of handing off to the other carriers freq. 800 or 1900 also tech. matters too) Which most carriers do not have multicarrier hand offs because you have to have a T1 beween the two carriers (MTSO) to facility the traffic hand off. It also doesn't work everytime when it is setup, which causes dropped calls. Also the hand off between Digital and AMPS does work pretty well intersystemly. But you do have to realize you phone has to rescan to a different freq. which leaves a chance of dropping a call ..... I don't know of a system that can hand AMPS back to CDMA, but you can hand AMPS back to TDMA. If someone know a system that can hand CDMA back to AMPS please reply. Lucent and Nortel can't ....

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