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07-04-2002, 4:45 PM

I had a pager for a long time. I only got a CELL a few years ago, because my friend turned me on to her Worldcom Rep. that gave me a free Nokia 51-something phone, with nice leather case, wall & car chargers for free and a $22.50/month plan. Only double my pager cost, so I went for it. I have 60 min. peak and 300 offpeak (starting at 7pm) So now I'm thinking $30 a month and I want a nice new phone that will fit in my front pocket. This old phone is kinda BIG!
I'm thinking AT&T will be the best upgrade for me, looking at their regional coverage map... I'm mainly in the San Jose area, but like to travel around the Bay Area, Central Valley, LA, Reno/Tahoe, VEGAS and HAWAII often. Currently, Amazon.com has the Motorola V60t for FREE, when you sign up for a contract with AT&T.
So what do you think I could get, by going into the AT&T store on the corner? Will they match the free phone deal and do a plan of MY making. There $30 plans don't quite cut it for me. This 9pm night start time is pure B.S.!! Talk about using the fine print to make more money out of people. The work day did not extend for people!
I want 7pm start for off peak
FREE PHONE, FREE activation
Their West regional coverage area will suffice for my home calling area.
FREE long distance, although I will hardly make any and it's only 20 cents a min.
Included: Voicemail, caller i.d., free first incoming minute (hate wrong #'s!)
I think 200 min. peak and 1000 off peak will suffice for me.
Think AT&T might be for me?

TNDan21 · 07-04-2002, 5:07 PM

You're asking the impossible. First of all, all the major carriers night minutes start at 9 pm now and second of all very few companies offer the first incoming minute of a call free anymore.

Check out AT&T's website and see if they have any plans for around $30 a month that you might like.

AT&T Wireless

Geoff · 07-04-2002, 5:23 PM

I have checked out the AT&T site extensively, as well as the others. There is no plan on there I will accept. Mostly the part about nights starting at 9pm. Almost all my calls will be PEAK!! So I'm going into the store and telling them what they will need to do, in order to get my business. Otherwise, I'm keeping what I got. I just don't use a CELL enough to pay more for less.

Dukedog · 07-04-2002, 5:48 PM

Well it seems as if you are going to keep what you have, because you are not going to get a whole lot for $30 dollars a month.

Mike · 07-04-2002, 6:11 PM

I don't think you will be keeping your old account. Sidgmore: All Wireless Assets For Sale. WorldCom is getting out of wireless service.

TNDan21 · 07-04-2002, 6:28 PM

Worldcom is exiting the wireless business so soon you will most likely have to switch to somebody else anyway. As I stated earlier you aren't going to get 7 pm off peak times with any company right now.

Jack · 07-04-2002, 7:21 PM

IF there are no plans that are on the web that you will accept then choose another provider

$39.99 sprint pcs 350 and 3750
$34.99 sprint pcs 200 and 3000
$35 Verizon (america choice) 300 and 4000

All minutes for sprint are nationwide on their network

Jack

BillRadio · 07-05-2002, 12:15 AM

One exception is Qwest Wireless who has Off-Peak starting at 7pm. There are also some other carriers in the $30 to $35 range that have Unlimited minutes. Cricket, SureWest, Metro PCS, Northcoast come to mind. Qwest in Omaha has Unlimited, but at $40/mo.

-Bill Radio

Mike · 07-05-2002, 9:11 AM

I had heard that Qwest is also looking to get out of the Wireless Service. They may not be around much longer as Qwest Wireless either.

Geoff · 07-05-2002, 9:45 AM

Mike - What are YOUR pros/cons with the V60's? Thinking of getting one...

aiwapro · 07-05-2002, 8:45 PM

Try Voicestream Wireless (T-Mobile). They will be launching in the Califonia/Nevada area in a couple of weeks. They already have coverage in Hawaii and I here it is pretty nice from a couple of people on a different forum. I have *heard* that when Voicestream launches, they will have a $29.99 plan that offers 300 Nationwide anytime minutes, UNLIMITED weekends, and maybe UNLIMITED nights. This will include Free Roaming & Free Long Distance. I beleive that Voicestream still does the First Free Incoming Minute free thing, but I'm not for sure. I will check my bill when in comes in a couple of days and let you know. I know they use too, because I remember never really thinking that that would make a difference, but it use to save me like 75 minutes a month, that's alot.

If you sign up for Voicestream on the AMAZON website, you can get the Mototola v60g for free too.
If you live in the Califonia/Nevada area you will have to wait a few weeks until they launch.

Joe0378 · 07-06-2002, 2:31 AM

I live in NYC so nights start at 9pm local time (EDT). I know in CA, nights start at 8pm CA time.

Joe0378 · 07-06-2002, 2:31 AM

I forgot to mention I was talking about Verizon...sorry

cryogenic · 07-06-2002, 4:09 AM

The reason Verizon has 8pm night minutes on the west coast is because of a class-action lawsuit that was filed against them for changing the start time, I do believe. However, this guy is asking nearly the impossible, as unfortunately in-store reps can't just pull a plan out of their asses and sell it to you. AT&T makes up the plans, the reps sell them.... The reps have SOME freedom on phone prices, but even then they still have to make money on them, so don't expect a miracle. My guess would be that when Worldcom sells their wireless assets, your service will be taken on by another company (Verizon, AT&T, Cingular, or whoever) and they'll put you on the nearest available price plan to what you're on right now, though probably not on a contract. Oh, and one more thing.... have you thought about prepay?

aiwapro · 07-06-2002, 3:23 PM

Isn't Worlcomm just a reseller, so what they could do is just turn the customers who have a certain provider, directly to that provider, no more middle man. Right?

Jack · 07-06-2002, 7:02 PM

That would be the perfect solution

Jack

mph11582 · 07-06-2002, 8:47 PM

I think you can get first incoming min free on cingular for like an additional $4.99 a month, check their site if you are interested

sgarrand · 07-07-2002, 10:47 AM

Cingular has an option for 7PM to 7AM Offpeak for an additional $7. It applies only to Home plabs and I'm in a TDMA area.

Scott

Jack · 07-07-2002, 8:31 PM

7pm nights that is NICE

Jack

Geoff · 07-09-2002, 10:45 AM

7 pm nights should be standard! Moving them to start at 8 and now 9 is just the big companies working an angle to get more money out of us consumers!

07-09-2002, 11:39 AM

Don't go with VoiceStream in California. Cingulars already packed with voicestream it will be hell.

aiwapro · 07-09-2002, 3:53 PM

No it won't. I can't stand they misinformed or not informed at all anonymous posters. They don't know what they are talking about. They can't even type right. Anyways, back to the matter at hand, additional spectrum and capacity has been added to the California/Nevada network of Cingular to support the two companies. Voicestream has some spectrum that they already owned out there that will only be used just for them, not Cingular, and also will not be turned on until Voicestream (T-Mobile) launches. None of this extra added stuff will be turned on until the initail launch of T-Mobile (Voicestream), which is scheduled for July 15, 2002.

07-04-2002, 4:45 PM	#1 (permalink)
Guest Posts: n/a	Getting the most out of $30/month I had a pager for a long time. I only got a CELL a few years ago, because my friend turned me on to her Worldcom Rep. that gave me a free Nokia 51-something phone, with nice leather case, wall & car chargers for free and a $22.50/month plan. Only double my pager cost, so I went for it. I have 60 min. peak and 300 offpeak (starting at 7pm) So now I'm thinking $30 a month and I want a nice new phone that will fit in my front pocket. This old phone is kinda BIG! I'm thinking AT&T will be the best upgrade for me, looking at their regional coverage map... I'm mainly in the San Jose area, but like to travel around the Bay Area, Central Valley, LA, Reno/Tahoe, VEGAS and HAWAII often. Currently, Amazon.com has the Motorola V60t for FREE, when you sign up for a contract with AT&T. So what do you think I could get, by going into the AT&T store on the corner? Will they match the free phone deal and do a plan of MY making. There $30 plans don't quite cut it for me. This 9pm night start time is pure B.S.!! Talk about using the fine print to make more money out of people. The work day did not extend for people! I want 7pm start for off peak FREE PHONE, FREE activation Their West regional coverage area will suffice for my home calling area. FREE long distance, although I will hardly make any and it's only 20 cents a min. Included: Voicemail, caller i.d., free first incoming minute (hate wrong #'s!) I think 200 min. peak and 1000 off peak will suffice for me. Think AT&T might be for me?

07-04-2002, 6:11 PM	#5 (permalink)
Mike Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Tampa Bay Area Posts: 282 Phone(s): Motorola RAZR V3, Motorola V60c, Motorola V551 Provider(s): T-Mobile, Verizon, Cingular Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I don't think you will be keeping your old account. Sidgmore: All Wireless Assets For Sale. WorldCom is getting out of wireless service. __________________ Mike a/k/a Shepp elsewhere on the net http://www.pcsws.com/ T-Mobile is the third largest wireless network in the world - and growing!

07-04-2002, 7:21 PM	#7 (permalink)
Jack Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,475 Phone(s): Motorola T720 Provider(s): Alltel Devices: Sirius Satellite radio, ipod, laptop, pda Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	IF there are no plans that are on the web that you will accept then choose another provider $39.99 sprint pcs 350 and 3750 $34.99 sprint pcs 200 and 3000 $35 Verizon (america choice) 300 and 4000 All minutes for sprint are nationwide on their network Jack __________________ Current Plan with alltel 3000 anytime minutes w/nationwide LD $74.95 a month---Waiting not so patiently for the Alltel version of the V710

07-05-2002, 12:15 AM	#8 (permalink)
BillRadio Wireless Consultant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Denver Posts: 1,387 Phone(s): Motorola, Nokia Provider(s): Verizon, T-Mobile, AT&T, Sprint Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Images: 1	One exception is Qwest Wireless who has Off-Peak starting at 7pm. There are also some other carriers in the $30 to $35 range that have Unlimited minutes. Cricket, SureWest, Metro PCS, Northcoast come to mind. Qwest in Omaha has Unlimited, but at $40/mo. -Bill Radio __________________ Cellular Reviews & Ratings. www.MountainWireless.com

07-05-2002, 9:11 AM	#9 (permalink)
Mike Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Tampa Bay Area Posts: 282 Phone(s): Motorola RAZR V3, Motorola V60c, Motorola V551 Provider(s): T-Mobile, Verizon, Cingular Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I had heard that Qwest is also looking to get out of the Wireless Service. They may not be around much longer as Qwest Wireless either. __________________ Mike a/k/a Shepp elsewhere on the net http://www.pcsws.com/ T-Mobile is the third largest wireless network in the world - and growing!

07-04-2002, 5:07 PM	#2 (permalink)
TNDan21 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Kingsport, TN Posts: 5,964 Phone(s): LG enV2, Samsung t219 Provider(s): Verizon Wireless, T-Mobile Devices: iPod Nano Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 6 Posts	You're asking the impossible. First of all, all the major carriers night minutes start at 9 pm now and second of all very few companies offer the first incoming minute of a call free anymore. Check out AT&T's website and see if they have any plans for around $30 a month that you might like. AT&T Wireless

07-04-2002, 5:23 PM	#3 (permalink)
Geoff Fresh Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 38 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I have checked out the AT&T site extensively, as well as the others. There is no plan on there I will accept. Mostly the part about nights starting at 9pm. Almost all my calls will be PEAK!! So I'm going into the store and telling them what they will need to do, in order to get my business. Otherwise, I'm keeping what I got. I just don't use a CELL enough to pay more for less.

07-04-2002, 5:48 PM	#4 (permalink)
Dukedog Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 571 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Well it seems as if you are going to keep what you have, because you are not going to get a whole lot for $30 dollars a month.

07-04-2002, 6:28 PM	#6 (permalink)
TNDan21 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Kingsport, TN Posts: 5,964 Phone(s): LG enV2, Samsung t219 Provider(s): Verizon Wireless, T-Mobile Devices: iPod Nano Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 6 Posts	Worldcom is exiting the wireless business so soon you will most likely have to switch to somebody else anyway. As I stated earlier you aren't going to get 7 pm off peak times with any company right now.

07-05-2002, 9:45 AM	#10 (permalink)
Geoff Fresh Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 38 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Mike - What are YOUR pros/cons with the V60's? Thinking of getting one...

07-05-2002, 8:45 PM	#11 (permalink)
aiwapro Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,455 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Try Voicestream Wireless (T-Mobile). They will be launching in the Califonia/Nevada area in a couple of weeks. They already have coverage in Hawaii and I here it is pretty nice from a couple of people on a different forum. I have heard that when Voicestream launches, they will have a $29.99 plan that offers 300 Nationwide anytime minutes, UNLIMITED weekends, and maybe UNLIMITED nights. This will include Free Roaming & Free Long Distance. I beleive that Voicestream still does the First Free Incoming Minute free thing, but I'm not for sure. I will check my bill when in comes in a couple of days and let you know. I know they use too, because I remember never really thinking that that would make a difference, but it use to save me like 75 minutes a month, that's alot. If you sign up for Voicestream on the AMAZON website, you can get the Mototola v60g for free too. If you live in the Califonia/Nevada area you will have to wait a few weeks until they launch.

07-06-2002, 2:31 AM	#12 (permalink)
Joe0378 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 553 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I live in NYC so nights start at 9pm local time (EDT). I know in CA, nights start at 8pm CA time.

07-06-2002, 2:31 AM	#13 (permalink)
Joe0378 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 553 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I forgot to mention I was talking about Verizon...sorry

07-06-2002, 4:09 AM	#14 (permalink)
cryogenic Join Date: May 2002 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 1,443 Phone(s): Samsung A990 Provider(s): Verizon Devices: iriver H10 6GB mp3 player Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	The reason Verizon has 8pm night minutes on the west coast is because of a class-action lawsuit that was filed against them for changing the start time, I do believe. However, this guy is asking nearly the impossible, as unfortunately in-store reps can't just pull a plan out of their asses and sell it to you. AT&T makes up the plans, the reps sell them.... The reps have SOME freedom on phone prices, but even then they still have to make money on them, so don't expect a miracle. My guess would be that when Worldcom sells their wireless assets, your service will be taken on by another company (Verizon, AT&T, Cingular, or whoever) and they'll put you on the nearest available price plan to what you're on right now, though probably not on a contract. Oh, and one more thing.... have you thought about prepay? __________________ Firefox My blog/pic gallery/etc

07-06-2002, 3:23 PM	#15 (permalink)
aiwapro Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,455 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Isn't Worlcomm just a reseller, so what they could do is just turn the customers who have a certain provider, directly to that provider, no more middle man. Right?

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Jack Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,475 Phone(s): Motorola T720 Provider(s): Alltel Devices: Sirius Satellite radio, ipod, laptop, pda Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	That would be the perfect solution Jack __________________ Current Plan with alltel 3000 anytime minutes w/nationwide LD $74.95 a month---Waiting not so patiently for the Alltel version of the V710

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mph11582 Fresh Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 22 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I think you can get first incoming min free on cingular for like an additional $4.99 a month, check their site if you are interested

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Jack Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,475 Phone(s): Motorola T720 Provider(s): Alltel Devices: Sirius Satellite radio, ipod, laptop, pda Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	7pm nights that is NICE Jack __________________ Current Plan with alltel 3000 anytime minutes w/nationwide LD $74.95 a month---Waiting not so patiently for the Alltel version of the V710

07-09-2002, 10:45 AM	#20 (permalink)
Geoff Fresh Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 38 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	7 pm nights should be standard! Moving them to start at 8 and now 9 is just the big companies working an angle to get more money out of us consumers!

07-09-2002, 11:39 AM	#21 (permalink)
Guest Posts: n/a	Don't go with VoiceStream in California. Cingulars already packed with voicestream it will be hell.

07-09-2002, 3:53 PM	#22 (permalink)
aiwapro Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,455 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	No it won't. I can't stand they misinformed or not informed at all anonymous posters. They don't know what they are talking about. They can't even type right. Anyways, back to the matter at hand, additional spectrum and capacity has been added to the California/Nevada network of Cingular to support the two companies. Voicestream has some spectrum that they already owned out there that will only be used just for them, not Cingular, and also will not be turned on until Voicestream (T-Mobile) launches. None of this extra added stuff will be turned on until the initail launch of T-Mobile (Voicestream), which is scheduled for July 15, 2002.

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