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Malial · 04-02-2002, 9:48 AM

Cingular to Spend $945 Million to Expand in West...

KevinJames · 04-02-2002, 10:22 AM

Of course the article made no mention of the rising count of dissatisfied customers who are constantly getting network-busy signals. It's part of the "lets put a positive spin on it" mentality.

Hello, operator. Please connect me to Scott Adams, I have another idea for his Dilbert strip.

Malial · 04-02-2002, 10:29 AM

lol...

yeah, i thought it was funny how they said "The West region is home to Cingular's showcase GSM (Global System for Mobile Communications) network..."

larry · 04-02-2002, 11:05 AM

Yeah but what they don't say is that it could take 3 or 4 years for them to make those $945 million in upgrades.

Dukedog · 04-02-2002, 11:49 AM

Hey Larry, it doesn't matter how long it takes them to make it up, as long as they are not losing customer for network capacity,and as well as expanding the area in the Nev and Cali. I'm sure if they can fix the problem they are facing in Cali and the rest of the western region, they will make it up.

Matt · 04-02-2002, 12:54 PM

I'm not sure of part of this cash if from the same bucket, but part of the terms of the VS/Cingular network agreement is that Cingular spends the first $450 million to upgrade the Cali. network before VS spends a dime out there. AFAIK, there was no requirement for VS to shell out advance cash in NYC before Cingular moves in.

04-02-2002, 2:34 PM

"Some analysts and insiders have speculated that the latter deal may foreshadow larger cooperation between the two supercarriers -- including a possible merger."

Do you think there will be a merger in the next 5 years????????

aiwapro · 04-06-2002, 9:26 PM

No, I hope there is no merger.

aiwapro · 04-11-2002, 7:30 PM

Cingular is spending alot of money (950 million here, 700 million there). Are they making this money back, or are they just making money now, until the end of their customers contracts?

goodjasonhunting · 04-12-2002, 11:44 AM

Aiwapro has a good point. I dont know what Cingulars retention rate is, but I was working as sales rep when GTE wireless converted over to Cingular in Western Washington. I was talking to 5-10 people a day complaining about the transition and wanting to switch services. I am sure that they have sunk a lot of money into retaining their current customers and bringing on new ones. Are they generating enough revenue with the churn that they are experiencing? Activating one customer is not cheap, and replacing ones that you have lost cost even more.

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Malial Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 749 Phone(s): Motorola v710 Provider(s): Verizon Devices: Dell Axim X5 Advance, palmOne Tungsten T5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	lol... yeah, i thought it was funny how they said "The West region is home to Cingular's showcase GSM (Global System for Mobile Communications) network..."

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larry Go Angels! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 13,384 Phone(s): LG Rumor 2, Sanyo Katana II Provider(s): Sprint Thanks: 29 Thanked 25 Times in 24 Posts Images: 154 My Auctions	Yeah but what they don't say is that it could take 3 or 4 years for them to make those $945 million in upgrades.

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Dukedog Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 571 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hey Larry, it doesn't matter how long it takes them to make it up, as long as they are not losing customer for network capacity,and as well as expanding the area in the Nev and Cali. I'm sure if they can fix the problem they are facing in Cali and the rest of the western region, they will make it up.

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Guest Posts: n/a	"Some analysts and insiders have speculated that the latter deal may foreshadow larger cooperation between the two supercarriers -- including a possible merger." Do you think there will be a merger in the next 5 years????????

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aiwapro Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,455 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	No, I hope there is no merger.

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aiwapro Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,455 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Cingular is spending alot of money (950 million here, 700 million there). Are they making this money back, or are they just making money now, until the end of their customers contracts?

04-12-2002, 11:44 AM	#10
goodjasonhunting Fresh Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 46 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Aiwapro has a good point. I dont know what Cingulars retention rate is, but I was working as sales rep when GTE wireless converted over to Cingular in Western Washington. I was talking to 5-10 people a day complaining about the transition and wanting to switch services. I am sure that they have sunk a lot of money into retaining their current customers and bringing on new ones. Are they generating enough revenue with the churn that they are experiencing? Activating one customer is not cheap, and replacing ones that you have lost cost even more.

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