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truebruin · 03-26-2002, 1:20 AM

Hi. I'm a student at UCLA who lives in the Bay Area. I'm thinking of getting a cell phone and am thinking about AT&T with a V60t phone. My question is, since AT&T is implementing GSM around the UCLA (Westwood) area, but is still TDMA up in my part of the Bay Area, what should I do? I need to have coverage in both places. Can I still use the phone in the Westwood area? I've heard that they are only overlaying GSM on top of TDMA so I might be able to use it. Also, if you guys know any carriers that are good around UCLA, I'd appreciate your thoughts. I've heard Verizon is the best, as they are the only ones with towers on campus. Thanks for your help.

larry · 03-26-2002, 4:00 AM

Sprint is excellent South of campus, (Wilshire Blvd area) but not so much the north end up near Sunset. Cingular is a little better up north but their system has become overloaded lately. I heard that Cingular is the only carrier to have an antenna on campus. I don't think the others have any on campus. UCLA does not allow it, but for some reason made a deal with Pac Bell to let them put a small one up back around 1997.

Malial · 03-26-2002, 9:37 AM

Even though ATT is overlaying TDMA with GSM, a TDMA phone will still be able to be used with no problems. They will keep their networks backwards compatabile for many years.

Although I'm not personally knowledgeable about your area, Verizon is a very good provider. I would probably not go Cingular. I've heard many people complain about Cingular in CA.

TNDan21 · 03-26-2002, 10:55 AM

AT&T should be a good provider in California, AT&T won a J.D. Power and Associates award there in 2001 for the Sacramento, Los Angeles, and San Francisco areas. Kevin is in california and seems to be quite happy with his service and I have a friend in Sacramento that has AT&T and loves his service also. According to Epinions.com for the San Francisco/San Jose/Oakland area Verizon and AT&T have the highest user ratings, in the Los Angeles area Nextel and AT&T have the highest ratings, and in the Sacramento area Nextel and AT&T have the highest ratings. I would also recommend against Cingular it appears to have bad user reviews on here and many people over in Cali say there network is over-sold over there.

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KevinJames · 03-26-2002, 11:29 AM

Malial,

Your point is the most direct answer that truebruin received. You gave him what he asked for.

Truebruin: Malial has correctly replied to you. ATT is not so dumb as to alienate its current subscriber base by making it impossible to use TDMA. It will be co-supported for some time. Now as to your choice of phone--save your money and wait for some of the newer 2.5G stuff on the horizon.

Kevin

truebruin · 03-26-2002, 2:29 PM

First, I want to thank you all for your replies. They're very much appreciated. Kevin, I'm wondering if you could specify which models you're talking about. I can get the V60t for fairly cheap ($40 plus free activation and a $50 rebate), so I'm not worried about the price as much as I used to be. Is it worth it to wait it out, and what features are there that would make it a better investment. Thanks a lot.

KevinJames · 03-26-2002, 3:12 PM

ATT shows this product (v60t) at $249. If you are getting it off ebay, be careful. Some shaddy characters have been selling Canadian Rogers/ATT phones to Americans that won't work here.

truebruin · 03-26-2002, 4:25 PM

Actually, I'm getting it from those smaller Chinese shops that always have the great deals. One of the perks of living close to San Francisco, I guess.

KevinJames · 03-26-2002, 4:27 PM

Make sure you run the serial number by ATT first to ensure it is not hot. I live in Tracy, work in Dublin (and SF on occasion).

Jack · 03-27-2002, 10:38 PM

Awsome price on the v60t. are those used units or new

Jack

truebruin · 03-29-2002, 2:27 PM

Hey all. Thanks for all your help. I ended up getting the V60t for 39.99 (plus tax for the full retail price) with AT&T. And Jack, these units are brand new.

Jack · 03-30-2002, 12:08 AM

Wow that is awsome can you buy a 2nd to have as a spare for 39.99

Jack

Wayne · 03-30-2002, 1:11 PM

WOW................................buy all you can and resell them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jack · 03-30-2002, 10:05 PM

That is a unbelieveable price for the v60t.. like wayne said buy all you can

Jack

P.S. How is yours working

truebruin · 04-02-2002, 2:17 AM

You can't just buy all you want cuz the only way these places sell you the phone for that much is if you buy service with it. Because its the commission that they receive that makes them willing to sell the phone for that cheap. I like the phone right now, service around UCLA is somewhat spotty, but so is every single service around here. When I do get service, its pretty clear compared to other phones I've listened to.

larry · 04-02-2002, 2:21 AM

Yes every carrier has their service problems around UCLA. If only UCLA would allow new antennas to be built on campus this wouldn't continue to be a problem.

truebruin · 04-04-2002, 1:51 AM

I heard its actually not a UCLA issue, but an FCC issue. Supposedly theres some policy that there can only be so many towers in a square mile and since the Federal Building is really close, no more can be added since there are so many on and around the Federal Building.

larry · 04-04-2002, 2:24 AM

I find that hard to believe. If that was the case, a new carrier trying to build a network in the Los Angeles area wouldn't be able to provide service there. That would give the other carriers an unfair advantage which would be unfair. And what are all the carriers going to do when the current capacity runs out around Westwood if they can't add new antennas? Sprint doesn't even have an antenna near the Federal building and I don't think Cingular does either. I believe Sprint's main site for Westwood is on the Roof of the big Ramada Inn and also one near Westwood Blvd. & Rochester. According to a Sprint official I've spoken with, the problem is with UCLA themselves not wanting to allow additional antennas on campus. All of the carriers seem to have pretty good coverage off campus around Westwood but on campus is a different story. It seems like there should still be plenty of room for sites on campus and north of campus if only UCLA would allow it.

04-25-2002, 10:32 PM

Hay truebruin,

WHould you care to spare some info on where you got this deal from. I live in Bay area and was thinking of going with ATT...

Thanks.

You can email me at : prolet@profatus.com

Kitsune · 04-26-2002, 11:34 AM

Hey Truebruin,

I'm also switching to AT&T and would like to get the v60. The only thing stopping me from getting the v60 is the price. The lowest I've seen it for was $149.

I love San Francisco too for all the bargains. Nothing beats the best egg tarts outside of China for $0.69 and a killer haircut for $8...except for a $39.99 v60 of course. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] I bet this phone store is somewhere near Jackson Street, Clement, or in the Sunset.

-Kitsune

Kitsune · 04-26-2002, 12:18 PM

I just found the V60t for $99 (with service activation) after mail-in rebate at amazon.com. The thing is, the rebate expires on April 30th so the purchase would have to be made within the next 5 days. Might be helpful for those who can't get to S.F. to save an additional $60...if the mystery of the store location is ever solved. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

Kitsune · 04-26-2002, 5:54 PM

Gawd, three posts in a row....yes, I guess I've become a little obsessed with the subject of cell phones. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif[/img]

~* To the Anon user looking for the $39.99 deal on the V60 *~

I called around a few cell phone shops in the areas I suspected Truebruin might have got his kewl deal on the V60. After two calls I found a place that has that same deal.

The place is called World Communications, 2024 Irving Street between 21st and 22nd Street.

Supposedly the deal is only good until the end of this month.

I was told, the deal is this: for new activation you can get a (brand new with 1 year warranty) V60 for $39.99 + tax, $35 activation fee with a one year contract, no activation fee with a two year. The plan you choose to get the deal has to be (I'm not sure about the exact amount) but I think it's 300 minutes or above. Since I yack a lot, I'm probably going for a 600 minute plan, so I wasn't too concerned with the limits to get the deal. Right now I'm paying $39.99 for 300 minutes on Cingular, so $10 for double the mintues is AWESOME! I'm so happy!!! I can't wait to get some cellular relief with AT&T. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

truebruin · 04-26-2002, 7:20 PM

I thought this thread would pop up again. I'm not sure if the deal is still going on, but I got my phone from Infinitel Communications. They have some offices all over the Bay Area. I got mine from the office in Daly City. To get the most recent deals from the Bay Area, specifically SF, the Peninsula, Oakland, check out The Advertiser, one of those small free newspapers that you can get from supermarket stands. They come out once a week, on Thursday I think. When I bought my pager service as well as cell phone service for my parents and myself, I always found the best prices on the Advertiser. Hope this helps, and please let us know what prices are nowadays for the V60t. Thanks!

Kitsune · 04-29-2002, 12:48 PM

Friday afternoon I was so excited about the prospect of a $39.99 v60t that dropped what I was doing and immediately drove to S.F.

When I got to World Communication the $39.99 phone ended up costing $79.97. They tack on $40.97 tax based on the un-activated retail price of the phone. That was kind of schtinky, but at $79.97 out the door, it was still a good deal. Probably not quite as good as Truebruin's.

Another kind of funny thing they did was ask for an imprint of my credit card for $300. That way, if I cancel service with AT&T before my year is up, they will charge my card a $300 penalty. I guess they make their profit selling the service contract.

So far I like my new phone. It's small, sexy, easy to use, and has lots of neat little features. Call quality is odd though. Sometimes it's crystal clear and other times there is a strange buzz that sounds like interference. I only get the buzzing sound when I'm calling from my office. Must be some kind of interference with my computer or cordless phone.

AT&T has been awesome! I got great reception from S.F. (even driving through tunnels) all the way to Petaluma. No dropped calls, no network busy alerts...just pure digital bliss. Thanks for the great recommendation Kevin! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

KevinJames · 04-29-2002, 2:32 PM

ATT Rocks, again.

Malial · 04-29-2002, 2:41 PM

Kitsune-

I've heard of others complain about a slight buzzing or hummng with v60's. On some phones, the backlight on the inner LCD screen has been reported to cause a slight "whine"...

Kitsune · 04-29-2002, 3:16 PM

Oh, great...

I wonder if it's with every v60 phone or just lemon v60 phones???

Come to think of it, it is sort of a whining humm. People I call can hear it on their end too. It sounds a lot like being on an old cordless phone talking far away from it's base. Even though it's intermittent, it's pretty frustrating when calling from my office. If I get the same kind of whine other places, I might try to exchange the phone for a different v60 with the hope that it isn't all v60's.

I wonder why it's the backlight on the LCD screen would cause that? I would expect better engineering from Motorola. As an experiment, when it happens again, I'll try disabling the backlight to see if it goes away.

03-26-2002, 1:20 AM	#1 (permalink)
truebruin Movin' on up! Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Is AT&T worth it now? Hi. I'm a student at UCLA who lives in the Bay Area. I'm thinking of getting a cell phone and am thinking about AT&T with a V60t phone. My question is, since AT&T is implementing GSM around the UCLA (Westwood) area, but is still TDMA up in my part of the Bay Area, what should I do? I need to have coverage in both places. Can I still use the phone in the Westwood area? I've heard that they are only overlaying GSM on top of TDMA so I might be able to use it. Also, if you guys know any carriers that are good around UCLA, I'd appreciate your thoughts. I've heard Verizon is the best, as they are the only ones with towers on campus. Thanks for your help.

03-27-2002, 10:38 PM	#10 (permalink)
Jack Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,475 Phone(s): Motorola T720 Provider(s): Alltel Devices: Sirius Satellite radio, ipod, laptop, pda Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Awsome price on the v60t. are those used units or new Jack __________________ Current Plan with alltel 3000 anytime minutes w/nationwide LD $74.95 a month---Waiting not so patiently for the Alltel version of the V710

03-30-2002, 12:08 AM	#12 (permalink)
Jack Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,475 Phone(s): Motorola T720 Provider(s): Alltel Devices: Sirius Satellite radio, ipod, laptop, pda Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Wow that is awsome can you buy a 2nd to have as a spare for 39.99 Jack __________________ Current Plan with alltel 3000 anytime minutes w/nationwide LD $74.95 a month---Waiting not so patiently for the Alltel version of the V710

03-30-2002, 10:05 PM	#14 (permalink)
Jack Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,475 Phone(s): Motorola T720 Provider(s): Alltel Devices: Sirius Satellite radio, ipod, laptop, pda Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	That is a unbelieveable price for the v60t.. like wayne said buy all you can Jack P.S. How is yours working __________________ Current Plan with alltel 3000 anytime minutes w/nationwide LD $74.95 a month---Waiting not so patiently for the Alltel version of the V710

03-26-2002, 4:00 AM	#2 (permalink)
larry Go Angels! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 12,949 Phone(s): LG Rumor Provider(s): Sprint Thanks: 17 Thanked 16 Times in 15 Posts Images: 146 My Auctions	Sprint is excellent South of campus, (Wilshire Blvd area) but not so much the north end up near Sunset. Cingular is a little better up north but their system has become overloaded lately. I heard that Cingular is the only carrier to have an antenna on campus. I don't think the others have any on campus. UCLA does not allow it, but for some reason made a deal with Pac Bell to let them put a small one up back around 1997.

03-26-2002, 9:37 AM	#3 (permalink)
Malial Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 749 Phone(s): Motorola v710 Provider(s): Verizon Devices: Dell Axim X5 Advance, palmOne Tungsten T5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Even though ATT is overlaying TDMA with GSM, a TDMA phone will still be able to be used with no problems. They will keep their networks backwards compatabile for many years. Although I'm not personally knowledgeable about your area, Verizon is a very good provider. I would probably not go Cingular. I've heard many people complain about Cingular in CA.

03-26-2002, 10:55 AM	#4 (permalink)
TNDan21 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Kingsport, TN Posts: 5,964 Phone(s): LG enV2, Samsung t219 Provider(s): Verizon Wireless, T-Mobile Devices: iPod Nano Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 6 Posts	AT&T should be a good provider in California, AT&T won a J.D. Power and Associates award there in 2001 for the Sacramento, Los Angeles, and San Francisco areas. Kevin is in california and seems to be quite happy with his service and I have a friend in Sacramento that has AT&T and loves his service also. According to Epinions.com for the San Francisco/San Jose/Oakland area Verizon and AT&T have the highest user ratings, in the Los Angeles area Nextel and AT&T have the highest ratings, and in the Sacramento area Nextel and AT&T have the highest ratings. I would also recommend against Cingular it appears to have bad user reviews on here and many people over in Cali say there network is over-sold over there. 2001 U.S. Wireless Industry Services Study: Awardees San Francisco/San Jose/Oakland Cellular Phone Service Sacramento Cellular Phone Service Los Angeles Cellular Phone Service

03-26-2002, 11:29 AM	#5 (permalink)
KevinJames WA's 1st retired mod Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Central Valley NorCA Posts: 2,588 Phone(s): Nokia 6126 Provider(s): the new AT&T Devices: Bluetooth devices--MotoHS820, Garmin Nuvi 660 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Malial, Your point is the most direct answer that truebruin received. You gave him what he asked for. Truebruin: Malial has correctly replied to you. ATT is not so dumb as to alienate its current subscriber base by making it impossible to use TDMA. It will be co-supported for some time. Now as to your choice of phone--save your money and wait for some of the newer 2.5G stuff on the horizon. Kevin

03-26-2002, 2:29 PM	#6 (permalink)
truebruin Movin' on up! Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	First, I want to thank you all for your replies. They're very much appreciated. Kevin, I'm wondering if you could specify which models you're talking about. I can get the V60t for fairly cheap ($40 plus free activation and a $50 rebate), so I'm not worried about the price as much as I used to be. Is it worth it to wait it out, and what features are there that would make it a better investment. Thanks a lot.

03-26-2002, 3:12 PM	#7 (permalink)
KevinJames WA's 1st retired mod Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Central Valley NorCA Posts: 2,588 Phone(s): Nokia 6126 Provider(s): the new AT&T Devices: Bluetooth devices--MotoHS820, Garmin Nuvi 660 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	ATT shows this product (v60t) at $249. If you are getting it off ebay, be careful. Some shaddy characters have been selling Canadian Rogers/ATT phones to Americans that won't work here.

03-26-2002, 4:25 PM	#8 (permalink)
truebruin Movin' on up! Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Actually, I'm getting it from those smaller Chinese shops that always have the great deals. One of the perks of living close to San Francisco, I guess.

03-26-2002, 4:27 PM	#9 (permalink)
KevinJames WA's 1st retired mod Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Central Valley NorCA Posts: 2,588 Phone(s): Nokia 6126 Provider(s): the new AT&T Devices: Bluetooth devices--MotoHS820, Garmin Nuvi 660 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Make sure you run the serial number by ATT first to ensure it is not hot. I live in Tracy, work in Dublin (and SF on occasion).

03-29-2002, 2:27 PM	#11 (permalink)
truebruin Movin' on up! Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hey all. Thanks for all your help. I ended up getting the V60t for 39.99 (plus tax for the full retail price) with AT&T. And Jack, these units are brand new.

03-30-2002, 1:11 PM	#13 (permalink)
Wayne Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 461 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	WOW................................buy all you can and resell them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

04-02-2002, 2:17 AM	#15 (permalink)
truebruin Movin' on up! Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	You can't just buy all you want cuz the only way these places sell you the phone for that much is if you buy service with it. Because its the commission that they receive that makes them willing to sell the phone for that cheap. I like the phone right now, service around UCLA is somewhat spotty, but so is every single service around here. When I do get service, its pretty clear compared to other phones I've listened to.

04-02-2002, 2:21 AM	#16 (permalink)
larry Go Angels! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 12,949 Phone(s): LG Rumor Provider(s): Sprint Thanks: 17 Thanked 16 Times in 15 Posts Images: 146 My Auctions	Yes every carrier has their service problems around UCLA. If only UCLA would allow new antennas to be built on campus this wouldn't continue to be a problem.

04-04-2002, 1:51 AM	#17 (permalink)
truebruin Movin' on up! Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I heard its actually not a UCLA issue, but an FCC issue. Supposedly theres some policy that there can only be so many towers in a square mile and since the Federal Building is really close, no more can be added since there are so many on and around the Federal Building.

04-04-2002, 2:24 AM	#18 (permalink)
larry Go Angels! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 12,949 Phone(s): LG Rumor Provider(s): Sprint Thanks: 17 Thanked 16 Times in 15 Posts Images: 146 My Auctions	I find that hard to believe. If that was the case, a new carrier trying to build a network in the Los Angeles area wouldn't be able to provide service there. That would give the other carriers an unfair advantage which would be unfair. And what are all the carriers going to do when the current capacity runs out around Westwood if they can't add new antennas? Sprint doesn't even have an antenna near the Federal building and I don't think Cingular does either. I believe Sprint's main site for Westwood is on the Roof of the big Ramada Inn and also one near Westwood Blvd. & Rochester. According to a Sprint official I've spoken with, the problem is with UCLA themselves not wanting to allow additional antennas on campus. All of the carriers seem to have pretty good coverage off campus around Westwood but on campus is a different story. It seems like there should still be plenty of room for sites on campus and north of campus if only UCLA would allow it.

04-25-2002, 10:32 PM	#19 (permalink)
Guest Posts: n/a	Hay truebruin, WHould you care to spare some info on where you got this deal from. I live in Bay area and was thinking of going with ATT... Thanks. You can email me at : prolet@profatus.com

04-26-2002, 11:34 AM	#20 (permalink)
Kitsune Fresh Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 47 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hey Truebruin, I'm also switching to AT&T and would like to get the v60. The only thing stopping me from getting the v60 is the price. The lowest I've seen it for was $149. I love San Francisco too for all the bargains. Nothing beats the best egg tarts outside of China for $0.69 and a killer haircut for $8...except for a $39.99 v60 of course. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] I bet this phone store is somewhere near Jackson Street, Clement, or in the Sunset. -Kitsune

04-26-2002, 12:18 PM	#21 (permalink)
Kitsune Fresh Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 47 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I just found the V60t for $99 (with service activation) after mail-in rebate at amazon.com. The thing is, the rebate expires on April 30th so the purchase would have to be made within the next 5 days. Might be helpful for those who can't get to S.F. to save an additional $60...if the mystery of the store location is ever solved. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

04-26-2002, 5:54 PM	#22 (permalink)
Kitsune Fresh Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 47 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Gawd, three posts in a row....yes, I guess I've become a little obsessed with the subject of cell phones. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif[/img] ~* To the Anon user looking for the $39.99 deal on the V60 *~ I called around a few cell phone shops in the areas I suspected Truebruin might have got his kewl deal on the V60. After two calls I found a place that has that same deal. The place is called World Communications, 2024 Irving Street between 21st and 22nd Street. Supposedly the deal is only good until the end of this month. I was told, the deal is this: for new activation you can get a (brand new with 1 year warranty) V60 for $39.99 + tax, $35 activation fee with a one year contract, no activation fee with a two year. The plan you choose to get the deal has to be (I'm not sure about the exact amount) but I think it's 300 minutes or above. Since I yack a lot, I'm probably going for a 600 minute plan, so I wasn't too concerned with the limits to get the deal. Right now I'm paying $39.99 for 300 minutes on Cingular, so $10 for double the mintues is AWESOME! I'm so happy!!! I can't wait to get some cellular relief with AT&T. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

04-26-2002, 7:20 PM	#23 (permalink)
truebruin Movin' on up! Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I thought this thread would pop up again. I'm not sure if the deal is still going on, but I got my phone from Infinitel Communications. They have some offices all over the Bay Area. I got mine from the office in Daly City. To get the most recent deals from the Bay Area, specifically SF, the Peninsula, Oakland, check out The Advertiser, one of those small free newspapers that you can get from supermarket stands. They come out once a week, on Thursday I think. When I bought my pager service as well as cell phone service for my parents and myself, I always found the best prices on the Advertiser. Hope this helps, and please let us know what prices are nowadays for the V60t. Thanks!

04-29-2002, 12:48 PM	#24 (permalink)
Kitsune Fresh Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 47 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Friday afternoon I was so excited about the prospect of a $39.99 v60t that dropped what I was doing and immediately drove to S.F. When I got to World Communication the $39.99 phone ended up costing $79.97. They tack on $40.97 tax based on the un-activated retail price of the phone. That was kind of schtinky, but at $79.97 out the door, it was still a good deal. Probably not quite as good as Truebruin's. Another kind of funny thing they did was ask for an imprint of my credit card for $300. That way, if I cancel service with AT&T before my year is up, they will charge my card a $300 penalty. I guess they make their profit selling the service contract. So far I like my new phone. It's small, sexy, easy to use, and has lots of neat little features. Call quality is odd though. Sometimes it's crystal clear and other times there is a strange buzz that sounds like interference. I only get the buzzing sound when I'm calling from my office. Must be some kind of interference with my computer or cordless phone. AT&T has been awesome! I got great reception from S.F. (even driving through tunnels) all the way to Petaluma. No dropped calls, no network busy alerts...just pure digital bliss. Thanks for the great recommendation Kevin! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

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04-29-2002, 2:32 PM	#25 (permalink)
KevinJames WA's 1st retired mod Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Central Valley NorCA Posts: 2,588 Phone(s): Nokia 6126 Provider(s): the new AT&T Devices: Bluetooth devices--MotoHS820, Garmin Nuvi 660 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	ATT Rocks, again.

04-29-2002, 2:41 PM	#26 (permalink)
Malial Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 749 Phone(s): Motorola v710 Provider(s): Verizon Devices: Dell Axim X5 Advance, palmOne Tungsten T5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Kitsune- I've heard of others complain about a slight buzzing or hummng with v60's. On some phones, the backlight on the inner LCD screen has been reported to cause a slight "whine"...

04-29-2002, 3:16 PM	#27 (permalink)
Kitsune Fresh Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 47 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Oh, great... I wonder if it's with every v60 phone or just lemon v60 phones??? Come to think of it, it is sort of a whining humm. People I call can hear it on their end too. It sounds a lot like being on an old cordless phone talking far away from it's base. Even though it's intermittent, it's pretty frustrating when calling from my office. If I get the same kind of whine other places, I might try to exchange the phone for a different v60 with the hope that it isn't all v60's. I wonder why it's the backlight on the LCD screen would cause that? I would expect better engineering from Motorola. As an experiment, when it happens again, I'll try disabling the backlight to see if it goes away.