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kennedy · 05-22-2003, 11:19 AM

I've heard that Verizon is moving away from America's Choice and rolling out some different plans. What's the scoop? I can't imagine something as successful as AC is disappearing.

Suliman · 05-22-2003, 9:57 PM

You can stop dreaming because it's not happening.

Suliman

~~ILUVSOCAL~~ · 05-23-2003, 1:51 AM

If they did, it wouldn't be much of a loss, in many areas, AC is a terrible plan.

AnthroMatt · 05-23-2003, 7:37 AM

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Originally posted by: ILUVSOCAL
If they did, it wouldn't be much of a loss, in many areas, AC is a terrible plan.

In many areas of the west this is very true...if you live back east, AC is fine.

Texass · 05-23-2003, 10:50 AM

Whats the scoop with America's Choice that makes it so bad?

Also, how do AT&T Wireless plans compare?

Suliman · 05-23-2003, 1:17 PM

I believe that there are significant coverage gaps in the west but in the east, it's rare not having a VZ signal through VZW or their roaming partners.

Suliman

budney · 05-23-2003, 10:27 PM

Yea, the AC plans are terrible out west & the new digital only plans are a complete joke. Check out the maps AC & digital AC. I just got them off Verizon's site too. It will be intresting to see what will happen this summer.

SodoMojo · 05-23-2003, 10:29 PM

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Originally posted by: Suliman
I believe that there are significant coverage gaps in the west but in the east, it's rare not having a VZ signal through VZW or their roaming partners.

Suliman

You can probably attribute that to there being less cellular service as a whole out west since it is not as populated as other parts of the country. Last I checked, it gave more coverage than ATT's plans, TMobiles, Nextels, Qwests, Cingular, and better than sprint cuz you don't have to be in your area at least 50% of the time.

budney · 05-24-2003, 12:14 AM

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Originally posted by: SodoMojo

You can probably attribute that to there being less cellular service as a whole out west since it is not as populated as other parts of the country. Last I checked, it gave more coverage than ATT's plans, TMobiles, Nextels, Qwests, Cingular, and better than sprint cuz you don't have to be in your area at least 50% of the time.

The west is covered fairly well with cellular service, but most of it is analog. As far as coverage goes I think you are right about the first 5 providers. But you can't compare Sprint's new plans to Verizon's AC plans strictly on coverage. Sprint's new plans can be compared to Verizon's National SingleRate Plan though. Also for most people Sprint's 50% rule is not a factor.

~~ILUVSOCAL~~ · 05-24-2003, 5:15 AM

"The west is covered fairly well with cellular service, but most of it is analog"

From my recent travels across Northern California, I would say most of it is digital now, analog is slowly becoming the minority.

budney · 05-24-2003, 12:55 PM

ILUVSOCAL - CA is the exception in the west. I have read about many approvements in NoCal, but alot of the Pacific NW & Rockies are analog. Yes, analog is being done away with. But it is a very slow process out west. If I still lived up in Eugene, I wouldn't be caught dead with one of Verizon's digital only phones & plans. Verizon should of kept all these plans for digital only on the east side of the country, where it looks much more posible to get away with. Hopefully Verizon will help out some of the local & regional providers to replace there analog systems with digital out west.

AnthroMatt · 05-24-2003, 1:00 PM

Yeah budney, you are correct. Oregon, Idaho, Nevada, Colorado, and Montana still have a lot of analog coverage.

Tadlock2699 · 05-24-2003, 2:02 PM

Could that coverage possibly be lessened to more Digital with the new AC plans?

AnthroMatt · 05-24-2003, 2:09 PM

Not really...even the regular AC plan is pretty weak in those areas...the biggest change in the digital-only area is the loss of nearly all of west Texas

Tadlock2699 · 05-24-2003, 2:13 PM

True..what I was hopeing would be that Verizon would convert those areas you mentioned, and in west Texas to Digital or at least have a little more support....I mean, come on Verizon...... :-)

--J.T

AnthroMatt · 05-24-2003, 2:37 PM

Well, they are converting all the analog they own, the problem is west Texas is (I believe) CellularOne territory...so until CellularOne decides to upgrade to digital, Verizon users will just lose that area completely if they go with a digital-only phone.

Tadlock2699 · 05-24-2003, 2:43 PM

Yes, I think you are correct, but also, Cingular TDMA is most of South-west Texas. I can't wait for Verizon to hopefully acquire some digital there..... :-).

--J.T

budney · 05-24-2003, 7:46 PM

If I heard right, all the divisions of Cell One will slowly be changing over to GSM in the next 5 years or so. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img]

AnthroMatt · 05-24-2003, 7:47 PM

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Originally posted by: budney
If I heard right, all the divisions of Cell One will slowly be changing over to GSM in the next 5 years or so. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img]

well, too bad for Verizon users! I didn't realize it was all divsions of cellone!

Tadlock2699 · 05-24-2003, 9:49 PM

Well, that $ucks for Verizon..Darn it...I really wish they would build out!

--J.T

DemoMan · 05-25-2003, 3:45 PM

The Digital AC map seems strange to me because it leaves out a lot of Alltel Digital roaming in the South. I looked closely and the areas covered in Arkansas are Alltel but lots of the area not covered have been converted to digital. They are about to be on the same System ID as the rest of AR so I would think that they will soon be included in the plan. As for Mississippi, Verizon appears to be using Sprint as a roaming partner. I'm confused there because Alltel has also converted areas of Miss. to digital.

Oh well....It isn't my money. I just know that VZW roams cheaper off of Alltel than Sprint or anyone else.

Brad

Tadlock2699 · 05-25-2003, 11:24 PM

To be quite honest, I think the way they decide roaming partners sometimes, it seems like they pick them out of a hat or something..LOL.

--J.T

Buickman · 05-26-2003, 7:59 AM

AnthroMatt, that part of west TX you were talking about is covered with CDMA, but for some reason they didn't include it in the digital AC home area. Cellone west has that area covered. As for all Cell one properties going GSM, that is only half of the story. I can't say about the ather parts of the country, but Cellone west (western wireless ) will be adding GSM to there network to get roaming revenue from tmobile, AT&T, and Cingular. So there network will include AMPS, TDMA, CDMA, and GSM.

05-22-2003, 11:19 AM	#1 (permalink)
kennedy I have a weird title! Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Bye-bye America's Choice? I've heard that Verizon is moving away from America's Choice and rolling out some different plans. What's the scoop? I can't imagine something as successful as AC is disappearing.

05-22-2003, 9:57 PM	#2 (permalink)
Suliman Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: NH Posts: 274 Phone(s): Katana (2), Franklin 680 USB card Provider(s): Sprint, Millenicom Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Bye-bye America's Choice? You can stop dreaming because it's not happening. Suliman

05-23-2003, 1:51 AM	#3 (permalink)
~~ILUVSOCAL~~ Banned Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Redwood Valley, CA Posts: 2,485 Phone(s): Nokia 3600(me), SE T616(me),T226(mom), Samsung SGH-x426(me), Nokia 7210(dad) Provider(s): AT&T(Me),Cingular(Me,Mom),Edge Wireless(Dad) Devices: BlueTrek G2 Bluetooth Headset Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts My Auctions	Bye-bye America's Choice? If they did, it wouldn't be much of a loss, in many areas, AC is a terrible plan.

05-23-2003, 10:50 AM	#5 (permalink)
Texass Fresh Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 16 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Bye-bye America's Choice? Whats the scoop with America's Choice that makes it so bad? Also, how do AT&T Wireless plans compare?

05-23-2003, 1:17 PM	#6 (permalink)
Suliman Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: NH Posts: 274 Phone(s): Katana (2), Franklin 680 USB card Provider(s): Sprint, Millenicom Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Bye-bye America's Choice? I believe that there are significant coverage gaps in the west but in the east, it's rare not having a VZ signal through VZW or their roaming partners. Suliman

05-23-2003, 10:27 PM	#7 (permalink)
budney Resident Headbanger Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: FV, CA Posts: 4,446 Phone(s): Touch Pro, Katana II Provider(s): Sprint Devices: 30GB Zune & 1GB Zen Stone Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Images: 14 My Auctions	Bye-bye America's Choice? Yea, the AC plans are terrible out west & the new digital only plans are a complete joke. Check out the maps AC & digital AC. I just got them off Verizon's site too. It will be intresting to see what will happen this summer. __________________ 'If it ain't broke, don't fix it,' unless you're a tweaker, and in that case you already fixed it ten times and it's still broken. - Dave Mustaine

05-24-2003, 5:15 AM	#10 (permalink)
~~ILUVSOCAL~~ Banned Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Redwood Valley, CA Posts: 2,485 Phone(s): Nokia 3600(me), SE T616(me),T226(mom), Samsung SGH-x426(me), Nokia 7210(dad) Provider(s): AT&T(Me),Cingular(Me,Mom),Edge Wireless(Dad) Devices: BlueTrek G2 Bluetooth Headset Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts My Auctions	Bye-bye America's Choice? "The west is covered fairly well with cellular service, but most of it is analog" From my recent travels across Northern California, I would say most of it is digital now, analog is slowly becoming the minority.

05-24-2003, 12:55 PM	#11 (permalink)
budney Resident Headbanger Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: FV, CA Posts: 4,446 Phone(s): Touch Pro, Katana II Provider(s): Sprint Devices: 30GB Zune & 1GB Zen Stone Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Images: 14 My Auctions	Bye-bye America's Choice? ILUVSOCAL - CA is the exception in the west. I have read about many approvements in NoCal, but alot of the Pacific NW & Rockies are analog. Yes, analog is being done away with. But it is a very slow process out west. If I still lived up in Eugene, I wouldn't be caught dead with one of Verizon's digital only phones & plans. Verizon should of kept all these plans for digital only on the east side of the country, where it looks much more posible to get away with. Hopefully Verizon will help out some of the local & regional providers to replace there analog systems with digital out west. __________________ 'If it ain't broke, don't fix it,' unless you're a tweaker, and in that case you already fixed it ten times and it's still broken. - Dave Mustaine

05-24-2003, 1:00 PM	#12 (permalink)
AnthroMatt Big Meanie Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 8,346 Phone(s): Motorola V950 Provider(s): Sprint + Airave Thanks: 3 Thanked 11 Times in 8 Posts Images: 1	Bye-bye America's Choice? Yeah budney, you are correct. Oregon, Idaho, Nevada, Colorado, and Montana still have a lot of analog coverage. __________________ Motorola V950

05-24-2003, 2:02 PM	#13 (permalink)
Tadlock2699 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Magnolia, TX Posts: 1,607 Phone(s): Pearl 8120, Curve 8310, T629,T729,Dash Provider(s): T-Mobile, AT&T Devices: iPod Video 80 Gig, iPAQ, Toshiba Satellite Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts My Auctions	Bye-bye America's Choice? Could that coverage possibly be lessened to more Digital with the new AC plans?

05-24-2003, 2:09 PM	#14 (permalink)
AnthroMatt Big Meanie Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 8,346 Phone(s): Motorola V950 Provider(s): Sprint + Airave Thanks: 3 Thanked 11 Times in 8 Posts Images: 1	Bye-bye America's Choice? Not really...even the regular AC plan is pretty weak in those areas...the biggest change in the digital-only area is the loss of nearly all of west Texas __________________ Motorola V950

05-24-2003, 2:13 PM	#15 (permalink)
Tadlock2699 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Magnolia, TX Posts: 1,607 Phone(s): Pearl 8120, Curve 8310, T629,T729,Dash Provider(s): T-Mobile, AT&T Devices: iPod Video 80 Gig, iPAQ, Toshiba Satellite Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts My Auctions	Bye-bye America's Choice? True..what I was hopeing would be that Verizon would convert those areas you mentioned, and in west Texas to Digital or at least have a little more support....I mean, come on Verizon...... :-) --J.T

05-24-2003, 2:37 PM	#16 (permalink)
AnthroMatt Big Meanie Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 8,346 Phone(s): Motorola V950 Provider(s): Sprint + Airave Thanks: 3 Thanked 11 Times in 8 Posts Images: 1	Bye-bye America's Choice? Well, they are converting all the analog they own, the problem is west Texas is (I believe) CellularOne territory...so until CellularOne decides to upgrade to digital, Verizon users will just lose that area completely if they go with a digital-only phone. __________________ Motorola V950

05-24-2003, 2:43 PM	#17 (permalink)
Tadlock2699 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Magnolia, TX Posts: 1,607 Phone(s): Pearl 8120, Curve 8310, T629,T729,Dash Provider(s): T-Mobile, AT&T Devices: iPod Video 80 Gig, iPAQ, Toshiba Satellite Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts My Auctions	Bye-bye America's Choice? Yes, I think you are correct, but also, Cingular TDMA is most of South-west Texas. I can't wait for Verizon to hopefully acquire some digital there..... :-). --J.T

05-24-2003, 7:46 PM	#18 (permalink)
budney Resident Headbanger Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: FV, CA Posts: 4,446 Phone(s): Touch Pro, Katana II Provider(s): Sprint Devices: 30GB Zune & 1GB Zen Stone Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Images: 14 My Auctions	Bye-bye America's Choice? If I heard right, all the divisions of Cell One will slowly be changing over to GSM in the next 5 years or so. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img]

05-24-2003, 9:49 PM	#20 (permalink)
Tadlock2699 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Magnolia, TX Posts: 1,607 Phone(s): Pearl 8120, Curve 8310, T629,T729,Dash Provider(s): T-Mobile, AT&T Devices: iPod Video 80 Gig, iPAQ, Toshiba Satellite Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts My Auctions	Bye-bye America's Choice? Well, that $ucks for Verizon..Darn it...I really wish they would build out! --J.T

05-25-2003, 3:45 PM	#21 (permalink)
DemoMan Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Jonesboro, AR Posts: 332 Phone(s): LG 5450 Provider(s): Alltel Devices: PDA Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Bye-bye America's Choice? The Digital AC map seems strange to me because it leaves out a lot of Alltel Digital roaming in the South. I looked closely and the areas covered in Arkansas are Alltel but lots of the area not covered have been converted to digital. They are about to be on the same System ID as the rest of AR so I would think that they will soon be included in the plan. As for Mississippi, Verizon appears to be using Sprint as a roaming partner. I'm confused there because Alltel has also converted areas of Miss. to digital. Oh well....It isn't my money. I just know that VZW roams cheaper off of Alltel than Sprint or anyone else. Brad

05-25-2003, 11:24 PM	#22 (permalink)
Tadlock2699 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Magnolia, TX Posts: 1,607 Phone(s): Pearl 8120, Curve 8310, T629,T729,Dash Provider(s): T-Mobile, AT&T Devices: iPod Video 80 Gig, iPAQ, Toshiba Satellite Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts My Auctions	Bye-bye America's Choice? To be quite honest, I think the way they decide roaming partners sometimes, it seems like they pick them out of a hat or something..LOL. --J.T

05-26-2003, 7:59 AM	#23 (permalink)
Buickman Gearhead/Gadget freak Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Minnesota Posts: 805 Phone(s): Moto RIZR Z6,LG enV2, Retired Phones: E815,V710, Nokia 3285, Nokia 6185, Sanyo 3000 Provider(s): Verizon on both phones Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Images: 1	Bye-bye America's Choice? AnthroMatt, that part of west TX you were talking about is covered with CDMA, but for some reason they didn't include it in the digital AC home area. Cellone west has that area covered. As for all Cell one properties going GSM, that is only half of the story. I can't say about the ather parts of the country, but Cellone west (western wireless ) will be adding GSM to there network to get roaming revenue from tmobile, AT&T, and Cingular. So there network will include AMPS, TDMA, CDMA, and GSM. __________________ Cars became my job, so phones became my hobby. Car's are not my job anymore, but phones are still a fun hobby.

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