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Gabriel · 06-30-2004, 8:42 PM

ok, sprint is CDMA, verizon is also CDMA. verizon is cellular, while sprint is not. if both of them are CDMA and use digital signals, why is it that one is cellular and not the other? is the only differnece the frequency of operation?

also, what is cellular anyway?

Almighty1 · 06-30-2004, 9:13 PM

I'll try on this one... Cellular means 800Mhz also known as 850Mhz and provides Analog as well. TDMA and CDMA networks that run at 800Mhz are cellular as they were originally Analog networks and have the A and B licenses in each market. A is the non-wireline carrier and B is the wireline carrier. 1900Mhz or 1.9Ghz is known as PCS and not cellular.

azcellphonejunkie · 07-01-2004, 2:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Almighty1

I'll try on this one... Cellular means 800Mhz also known as 850Mhz and provides Analog as well. TDMA and CDMA networks that run at 800Mhz are cellular as they were originally Analog networks and have the A and B licenses in each market. A is the non-wireline carrier and B is the wireline carrier. 1900Mhz or 1.9Ghz is known as PCS and not cellular.

...but someone like Sprint can roam on the cellular bands if one has a phone that supports the other band (known as dual-band at Sprint.) If you have one of these phones, you are able to use the signals transmitted by the Cellular carrier on CDMA or AMPS if no native signal (such as sprint) can be found in many cases.

danny boi · 07-01-2004, 1:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Gabriel

ok, sprint is CDMA, verizon is also CDMA. verizon is cellular, while sprint is not. if both of them are CDMA and use digital signals, why is it that one is cellular and not the other? is the only differnece the frequency of operation?

also, what is cellular anyway?

Just remember: If your carrier is in the 800 MHz range it's generally referred to as cellular. If it is in the 1900 MHz range, it is usually referred to as PCS.

I think certain bands are given names to differentiate themselves. No matter what frequency your carrier utilizes, they still require "cell" sites to operate and they still use "cell" phones for wireless communication.

There are some areas of the country where VZW owns PCS licenses.

Almighty1 · 07-01-2004, 4:40 PM

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...but someone like Sprint can roam on the cellular bands if one has a phone that supports the other band (known as dual-band at Sprint.) If you have one of these phones, you are able to use the signals transmitted by the Cellular carrier on CDMA or AMPS if no native signal (such as sprint) can be found in many cases.

Yes but read what you said above. The Cellular carrier on CDMA or AMPS is not a Sprint signal so Sprint isn't technically the carrier in that case. Just like you couldn't call Verizon Wireless a Cellular Carrier in Florida either as they are only PCS 1.9Ghz in the former PrimeCo areas. They sold their 800Mhz system to Alltel when Verizon Wireless was formed. The other thing is SprintPCS even labels itself as a PCS carrier in it's brandname.

Gabriel · 07-01-2004, 9:25 PM

man, this is complicated!!! so the only difference is the frequency... wow, so now i have a followup question for all of you. i heard reacetly that in europe they used to call these devices "cellular phones", but now they are called "mobiles". they do not use "cellular" anymore. is this just a cultural trend, or is there some base to this? maybe to differenciate between analog and GSM?

Andy · 07-01-2004, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Gabriel

man, this is complicated!!! so the only difference is the frequency... wow, so now i have a followup question for all of you. i heard reacetly that in europe they used to call these devices "cellular phones", but now they are called "mobiles". they do not use "cellular" anymore. is this just a cultural trend, or is there some base to this? maybe to differenciate between analog and GSM?

Hey,
I don't think there was ever such a thing as analog in Europe...
And as far as I know, cellphones in Europe are most always called Mobile Phones( I mean even in Britain, right?)...
~Andy

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Gabriel TICUS AD MORTEM Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: California Posts: 355 Phone(s): Motorola v551, Nokia 6610, Nokia 3390 Provider(s): Cingular Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	who knows the difference? ok, sprint is CDMA, verizon is also CDMA. verizon is cellular, while sprint is not. if both of them are CDMA and use digital signals, why is it that one is cellular and not the other? is the only differnece the frequency of operation? also, what is cellular anyway? __________________ Remember: 1- GSM 900/1800mhz is used not only in Europe, but also in Latin America, Africa, Asia, and Oceania 2- GSM 850/1900Mhz is not only used in USA, but also in Canada and Latin America

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Almighty1 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 107 Phone(s): Motorola v60c, Motorola v80 Provider(s): Verizon Wireless Devices: MP3, GPS, PDA Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: who knows the difference? I'll try on this one... Cellular means 800Mhz also known as 850Mhz and provides Analog as well. TDMA and CDMA networks that run at 800Mhz are cellular as they were originally Analog networks and have the A and B licenses in each market. A is the non-wireline carrier and B is the wireline carrier. 1900Mhz or 1.9Ghz is known as PCS and not cellular. __________________ Cheers, Almighty1

07-01-2004, 9:25 PM	#6 (permalink)
Gabriel TICUS AD MORTEM Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: California Posts: 355 Phone(s): Motorola v551, Nokia 6610, Nokia 3390 Provider(s): Cingular Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: who knows the difference? man, this is complicated!!! so the only difference is the frequency... wow, so now i have a followup question for all of you. i heard reacetly that in europe they used to call these devices "cellular phones", but now they are called "mobiles". they do not use "cellular" anymore. is this just a cultural trend, or is there some base to this? maybe to differenciate between analog and GSM? __________________ Remember: 1- GSM 900/1800mhz is used not only in Europe, but also in Latin America, Africa, Asia, and Oceania 2- GSM 850/1900Mhz is not only used in USA, but also in Canada and Latin America

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