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itsme000 · 10-01-2005, 9:44 PM

I have an LG VX4400 and the reception in my new apartment sucks. I have local DigitalChoice plan which gives me "home area" usage within a defined geographical area.

I discovered that my reception is improved by forcing the phone into "PCS only" mode and letting it roam on Sprint PCS network.

If they find out I'm doing this, is there a consequence?

Andy · 10-02-2005, 1:38 AM

No consequence...It should show Extended Network while using Sprint, correct?
If so, no concequence. Text messaging might not work, though, while roaming on Sprint, so I'd only force it onto Sprint at your house and not in areas where Verizon has good service. Also, open a trouble ticket with Verizon about the coverage being weak, that might help, but in the meantime, go ahead and force your phone to sprint.

~~RJB~~ · 10-02-2005, 3:29 AM

How do you force your 4400 to pcs

Andy · 10-02-2005, 11:45 AM

Have your phone on Auto B, then press Menu, zero, then all zeros for the service code, then option 3 or 4 and then select PCS ONLY.

Outerlimit · 10-04-2005, 12:02 AM

how do you open a trouble ticket?

Andy · 10-04-2005, 6:46 PM

Call 611, then press whatever it is to talk to a customer care rep, then select the option for when you are having problems making/receiving calls; when they pick up say you want to open a trouble ticket for an area with bad service.

Outerlimit · 10-05-2005, 2:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy84094

Call 611, then press whatever it is to talk to a customer care rep, then select the option for when you are having problems making/receiving calls; when they pick up say you want to open a trouble ticket for an area with bad service.

thanks, i'll try that for my service at my house this weekend... perhaps over time it will improve

Andy · 10-05-2005, 9:48 PM

Also, pressing *** SEND right after having a dropped call will note the cellsite/time where you dropped the calls for engineers. It will give you an error message, but the dropped call will be recorded.

itsme000 · 10-08-2005, 10:23 PM

Better yet, how do I alter the PRL, so that it will preferentially use the better reception, 1900MHz Sprint PCS that gives me five bars rather than 800MHz VZW that gives me one?

The order of priority on VZW PRL is:
VZW Digital
VZW Analog
Spring PCS digital, last resort

Andy · 10-09-2005, 12:27 PM

If you alter the PRL to do that, then the phone will always use SPCS, unless it's not available, then look for Verizon, which would not be a smart thing to do, in my opinion. Leave the PRL alone and just switch the phone over to SPCS where needed.

itsme000 · 10-10-2005, 6:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy84094

If you alter the PRL to do that, then the phone will always use SPCS, unless it's not available, then look for Verizon, which would not be a smart thing to do, in my opinion. Leave the PRL alone and just switch the phone over to SPCS where needed.

How about if I want to set it up so that it will be:
1st: VZW Digital
2nd: Sprint Digital
3rd: Analog

Default is
1st: VZW Digital
2nd: VZW Analog
3rd: Sprint Digital

svanwormer · 10-10-2005, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by itsme000

How about if I want to set it up so that it will be:
1st: VZW Digital
2nd: Sprint Digital
3rd: Analog

Default is
1st: VZW Digital
2nd: VZW Analog
3rd: Sprint Digital

The PRL is based on SIDs. I don't believe you can have Sprint digital PCS over Verizon AMPS. You would have to have Sprint above Verizon in general. I don't see this being helpful in too many areas.

DanPFW · 10-11-2005, 1:18 PM

Yes, you can put Sprint PCS above VZW analog. I used to modify the PRL and removed all references to analog for this state. I don't really need to do this anymore that they've bought another market, and the 2 other companies have digital only SIDs.

You'd have to put Sprint PCS just below the VZW entry in the same region/priority. You would have to change the acq id to a digital only # for whatever band VZW is in your market.

This would allow you to dial *2280x for whichever company you want to use. Hang up after 5 seconds and your phone should be locked onto the other company.

The only bad thing with this is that your phone will switch to the other if it loses the signal, but will not switch back by itself until it loses the signal again.

10-01-2005, 9:44 PM	#1 (permalink)
itsme000 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Portland OR Posts: 71 Phone(s): Casio G'zOne Type V, Nokia 2610, Motorola v120c (for 611) Provider(s):* Verizon Wireless, T-Mobile To Go Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Is there penalty for roaming on Sprint 1900MHz all the time? I have an LG VX4400 and the reception in my new apartment sucks. I have local DigitalChoice plan which gives me "home area" usage within a defined geographical area. I discovered that my reception is improved by forcing the phone into "PCS only" mode and letting it roam on Sprint PCS network. If they find out I'm doing this, is there a consequence?

10-02-2005, 1:38 AM	#2 (permalink)
Andy Join Date: May 2003 Location: Campione, Italy Posts: 10,285 Phone(s): HTC 6900 Touch, Motorola RAZR V3i Provider(s): VZW, Vodafone D2, Solomo, Swisscom Mobile Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Images: 130	Re: Is there penalty for roaming on Sprint 1900MHz all the time? No consequence...It should show Extended Network while using Sprint, correct? If so, no concequence. Text messaging might not work, though, while roaming on Sprint, so I'd only force it onto Sprint at your house and not in areas where Verizon has good service. Also, open a trouble ticket with Verizon about the coverage being weak, that might help, but in the meantime, go ahead and force your phone to sprint.

10-02-2005, 3:29 AM	#3 (permalink)
~~RJB~~ Banned Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 7,040 Thanks: 35 Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts Images: 69	Re: Is there penalty for roaming on Sprint 1900MHz all the time? How do you force your 4400 to pcs

10-02-2005, 11:45 AM	#4 (permalink)
Andy Join Date: May 2003 Location: Campione, Italy Posts: 10,285 Phone(s): HTC 6900 Touch, Motorola RAZR V3i Provider(s): VZW, Vodafone D2, Solomo, Swisscom Mobile Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Images: 130	Re: Is there penalty for roaming on Sprint 1900MHz all the time? Have your phone on Auto B, then press Menu, zero, then all zeros for the service code, then option 3 or 4 and then select PCS ONLY.

10-04-2005, 12:02 AM	#5 (permalink)
Outerlimit Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 129 Phone(s): Motorola RAZR V3m Provider(s): Verizon Wireless Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Is there penalty for roaming on Sprint 1900MHz all the time? how do you open a trouble ticket?

10-04-2005, 6:46 PM	#6 (permalink)
Andy Join Date: May 2003 Location: Campione, Italy Posts: 10,285 Phone(s): HTC 6900 Touch, Motorola RAZR V3i Provider(s): VZW, Vodafone D2, Solomo, Swisscom Mobile Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Images: 130	Re: Is there penalty for roaming on Sprint 1900MHz all the time? Call 611, then press whatever it is to talk to a customer care rep, then select the option for when you are having problems making/receiving calls; when they pick up say you want to open a trouble ticket for an area with bad service.

10-05-2005, 9:48 PM	#8 (permalink)
Andy Join Date: May 2003 Location: Campione, Italy Posts: 10,285 Phone(s): HTC 6900 Touch, Motorola RAZR V3i Provider(s): VZW, Vodafone D2, Solomo, Swisscom Mobile Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Images: 130	Re: Is there penalty for roaming on Sprint 1900MHz all the time? Also, pressing *** SEND right after having a dropped call will note the cellsite/time where you dropped the calls for engineers. It will give you an error message, but the dropped call will be recorded.

10-08-2005, 10:23 PM	#9 (permalink)
itsme000 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Portland OR Posts: 71 Phone(s): Casio G'zOne Type V, Nokia 2610, Motorola v120c (for 611) Provider(s):* Verizon Wireless, T-Mobile To Go Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Is there penalty for roaming on Sprint 1900MHz all the time? Better yet, how do I alter the PRL, so that it will preferentially use the better reception, 1900MHz Sprint PCS that gives me five bars rather than 800MHz VZW that gives me one? The order of priority on VZW PRL is: VZW Digital VZW Analog Spring PCS digital, last resort

10-09-2005, 12:27 PM	#10 (permalink)
Andy Join Date: May 2003 Location: Campione, Italy Posts: 10,285 Phone(s): HTC 6900 Touch, Motorola RAZR V3i Provider(s): VZW, Vodafone D2, Solomo, Swisscom Mobile Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Images: 130	Re: Is there penalty for roaming on Sprint 1900MHz all the time? If you alter the PRL to do that, then the phone will always use SPCS, unless it's not available, then look for Verizon, which would not be a smart thing to do, in my opinion. Leave the PRL alone and just switch the phone over to SPCS where needed.

10-11-2005, 1:18 PM	#13 (permalink)
DanPFW Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Minnesota Posts: 215 Phone(s): MotoK1m Provider(s): CDMA Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Images: 9	Re: Is there penalty for roaming on Sprint 1900MHz all the time? Yes, you can put Sprint PCS above VZW analog. I used to modify the PRL and removed all references to analog for this state. I don't really need to do this anymore that they've bought another market, and the 2 other companies have digital only SIDs. You'd have to put Sprint PCS just below the VZW entry in the same region/priority. You would have to change the acq id to a digital only # for whatever band VZW is in your market. This would allow you to dial *2280x for whichever company you want to use. Hang up after 5 seconds and your phone should be locked onto the other company. The only bad thing with this is that your phone will switch to the other if it loses the signal, but will not switch back by itself until it loses the signal again.

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