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I went to WA00.com today on my Nokia N95 and got the "regular" (ie: non WAP/mobile device) page
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| Wirelessly posted (Nokia E70-2: Mozilla/5.0 (SymbianOS/9.1; U; en-us) AppleWebKit/413 (KHTML, like Gecko) Safari/413 es70) It's working fine for me too (from the E70).
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I was never able to access the mobile site from my PDA devices (Pearl, Q, and now E63)... It senses that I am using a HTML browser and sends me to the regular page... Am I missing something? |
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Seems fine for me and my HTC Touch Pro on Opera 9.5, but like you, can't access wa00.com on my Nokia N95-8GB. I just had to go to the regular wirelessadvisor.com link on the N95-8GB.
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I can't get there either with the iPhone. I've always used the full site, which is better, and looks the same as on my pc/mac
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Ok, so it's not just me then. @Joe: I don't know what method you use to detect mobile devices on the WA00 site, but on my RadioRaiders Mobile Home Page site (that is intended for mobile devices only) I have a javascript re-direct in my <head> that sends all browser windows larger than 800px to my regular site. Maybe you want to use this code as well? Quote:
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| @Joe, PLEASE, do not change anything that will redirect my mobile browser to wa00.com! The WA experience on the iPhone safari browser is very rich and easy to navigate. I don't know why entering wa00.com gives me a blank page with only 'wirelessadvisor.com' on the page, but if you do fix this, please let me chose which experience I prefer. I know that with my Nokia 6131, using opera, I could chose either site and it worked fine.
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RR, please correct me if I am wrong. Thanks Much
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My script would be put in the head of the WA00 pages to only allow mobile deivces (ie: browsers smaller than 800px wide) to enter. So, yes, Charlyee got it right, but viewfly misunderstood. ...anyway, it's just a suggestion. Maybe there's other ways to do it. But a simple JS in the header is quick and easy ...yea baby, I said quick and easy, grrrrr.... ![]() ...oops, sorry, got carried away
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Charlyee, RR, No misunderstanding here guys. I understood perfectly that the OP wanted to access the wa00.com from a mobile phone but got redirected to the full WA site instead. If one wishes to go to wa00 for faster loading on any mobile, fix that; if one wishes to go to the full site on a mobile, keep that, and if one wanders to ww00 on a PC browser, and you wish to force them towards the full WA, that is fine too. My 2cents ( As a very well respected intellectual once commented, "sometimes things happen that cause other things to happen"
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I have seen this occasionally on the LG CU500. I believe that it's a memory issue - sometimes the browser runs out of memory and gives up. If this happens and I turn the phone off and on again, it usually starts working. BTW, both sites, WA00 and WA (regular skin and mobile skin) work OK on the G1. SW
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| Yes I can access other WAP sites. For example I cannot go to cnn.com ; I always get redirected to m.cnn.com and that loads fine. I'd rather be able to go to the full site. But it works. Hence my concern with WA !
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Mine does the does the same thing with CNN btw. Palm850/v0100 Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows CE; IEMobile 7.11) Last edited by Charlyee; 08-07-2009 at 11:52 PM. | |
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If you go there with a regular browser, you won't see anything at all (or it may download the file). | |
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Your site listing above gives me a code listing only. I googled a listing of wap sites. Most redirect to m. or mobile. sites. Others just redirect to the full site. This one from Zagats did not (?). Here is a comparison between the wap and the full site. Is it really a wap? ![]() and by clicking on the link at the bottom right (Go to Zagats.com), I get this: Last edited by viewfly; 08-08-2009 at 9:59 AM. | |
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any properly designed WAP site would look to see if the user agent (browser) sent information about accepting WAP content. If the browser does not accept it (like a desktop browser) then the site should redirect to a normal portal. There are other things the server can look at to try & determine whether or not it's a mobile device and use a "mobile skin" (usually just a site formatted to be viewed on a small screen and without Flash/Java/Ajax content). Hard-coding WML is a bad practice, although it makes for a good testing tool Without looking at the actual page source I can't tell whether it's WAP or not. A WAP site would use WML instead of HTML. The lines blur a little with WAP 2.0 since HTML becomes an accepted format for the server (not so in WAP 1.0) but any true WAP browser should be able to display a WAP 1.0 site. If all you see is code on that site then iPhone is not WAP 1.0 capable. I guess only Joe can tell us whether wa00.com is WAP 1.0 or WAP 2.0. | |
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dmapr, if I go to my prefs on WA00 & then W&P Options, I get the following. *WAP Options Your WiDevice Only Supports WAP 2.0 (XHTML-MP)* Does this signify anything to you? Thank Much Palm850/v0100 Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows CE; IEMobile 7.11) |
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It tells me that wa00 is an intelligent site and determines the capabilities of your device before blasting the content back. For my SE it allows me to choose between WML (WAP 1.1) and XHTML-MP (WAP 2.0). What I still don't know is:
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DeviceAtlas | DeviceAtlas (you can also get that info for your phone only by visiting my m.radioraiders.com site on your mobile device) To make an "intelligent" web site for mobile browsers is nice, but really requires alot of work and may not be worth the hassle for some (ex: me
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Looking for X-WAP-Profile header is even more intelligent than that | |
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PS- WA00.com gets a good grade for mobile content design when run thru ready.mobi http://ready.mobi/results.jsp?uri=ht...m&locale=en_EN ...altho failed the redirect test: Quote:
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so if you go to wap.zagat.com on a wap 1.0 device, do you get the same page as above? Charlyee?? I guess I should slip my sim into an older Nokia and give it a try. In any case, not being able to go to a wap 1 site is not something i miss. That's the reason to have a good browser on the phone! thanks for taking the time to l look into it. vf | |
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viewfly, I don't have a WAP 1.0 device. The wap.jagat.com on my Treo looks identical to the picture you posted. For the record, I don't use the WAP site. I use the main site with the Mobile Skin & change to the standard skin when I need to obliterate spammers. Palm850/v0100 Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows CE; IEMobile 7.11) |
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I honestly don't know I too could possibly try it on a 3100 which according to Phonescoop is a WAP 1.x device and compare to what a WAP 2.0 one shows. | |
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