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Mobile Mike · 04-20-2005, 5:46 PM

It sure looks that way. The recently released Motorola V188 is 850/900/1800/1900, and the Blackberry 7100T is also quad as well. Maybe T-Mobile is finally opening up their phones to the elusive 850 band. I sure hope this is a sign of things to come. For me, this makes Cingular irrelevant!

Andy · 04-20-2005, 6:17 PM

Well they realized they'd have to open up 850 bands sooner or later since they have to keep up, coverage wise. IMO they should have never started disabling 850 on phones that had it, and should have allowed 850 roaming from the beginning and I'm sure their numbers would have even looked better-great prices and big coverage...what else could you want?

MOTOhooligan · 04-20-2005, 7:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Andy84094

...what else could you want?

A free Motorola v635 and HS850?

EdwardP · 04-20-2005, 10:55 PM

Is the native T-Mobile network also going 850/1900 or is staying at 1900? If they change it to 850/1900, I know several people who will be VERY HAPPY to get a signal inside a building without having to move to a window.

Matt · 04-21-2005, 12:36 AM

The native TM network will always be 1900 only since T-Mobile does not own any 850 spectrum.

Andy - while I think TM has been slow to allow 850 roaming, overall I disagree with the need to allow it "from the beginning" - it took many months for Cingular and AT&T to get the kinks out of their 850 GSM systems. Obviously, that time has passed and the 850 networks are ready.

There are a few reports internally of 850 being slowly opened up, I think in either MS or AL it is open on Unicel now.

Shizam76 · 04-21-2005, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt

There are a few reports internally of 850 being slowly opened up, I think in either MS or AL it is open on Unicel now.

When they open up roaming....does that mean they will adjust their prices to reflect the newly "expanded" service area?

Matt · 04-21-2005, 12:06 PM

I doubt it, but that's just my opinion. No inside info

Andy · 04-21-2005, 6:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt

The native TM network will always be 1900 only since T-Mobile does not own any 850 spectrum.

Andy - while I think TM has been slow to allow 850 roaming, overall I disagree with the need to allow it "from the beginning" - it took many months for Cingular and AT&T to get the kinks out of their 850 GSM systems. Obviously, that time has passed and the 850 networks are ready.

There are a few reports internally of 850 being slowly opened up, I think in either MS or AL it is open on Unicel now.

Even though I agree with some points you make, wouldn't it have been better to not change the software of phones that were 850 capable, just not to yet allow 850 roaming, and when the time came(like now and in the near future), slowly start allowing 850 roaming, then those phones that were purchased months ago would have been able to use the 850 roaming coverage, but unless I'm mistaken, those phones that had the software changed are not able to use that coverage. Not too smart of a move IMO.

Matt · 04-21-2005, 6:39 PM

True, but there aren't that many 850 phones for TM out there (ones that that TM crippled, that is). All phone companies change the software of the phone before they sell it, so barring 850 is just one step out of many. I agree that crippled phones probably won't be able to use 850 going forward. For a while TM did sell the 3595 with 850 open, IIRC.

Andy · 04-21-2005, 6:49 PM

100% agreed, but IMO even though it wasn't a lot of phones, they still should have left the option open for future use. Oh Well...

Shizam76 · 04-21-2005, 11:15 PM

I have a v180.....crippled of course by TMobile. Can they do an OTA to open 850....or even open the quad-band capabilities?

If not....I may have to have my boss get me a Nokia 6010 again.

Matt · 04-21-2005, 11:59 PM

I think only a firmware update will open up another band.

Shizam76 · 04-23-2005, 1:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt

I think only a firmware update will open up another band.

Thanks Matt.....I think I'm going to have my boss call our account rep.....

04-20-2005, 5:46 PM	#1 (permalink)
Mobile Mike Long Term Evolution 4G Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 4,741 Phone(s): LG Voyager, Nokia 6555 Provider(s): Verizon Wireless, AT&T Thanks: 46 Thanked 19 Times in 19 Posts	T-Mobile Going Quad-Band? It sure looks that way. The recently released Motorola V188 is 850/900/1800/1900, and the Blackberry 7100T is also quad as well. Maybe T-Mobile is finally opening up their phones to the elusive 850 band. I sure hope this is a sign of things to come. For me, this makes Cingular irrelevant!

04-20-2005, 6:17 PM	#2 (permalink)
Andy Join Date: May 2003 Location: Campione, Italy Posts: 10,285 Phone(s): HTC 6900 Touch, Motorola RAZR V3i Provider(s): VZW, Vodafone D2, Solomo, Swisscom Mobile Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Images: 130	Re: T-Mobile Going Quad-Band? Well they realized they'd have to open up 850 bands sooner or later since they have to keep up, coverage wise. IMO they should have never started disabling 850 on phones that had it, and should have allowed 850 roaming from the beginning and I'm sure their numbers would have even looked better-great prices and big coverage...what else could you want?

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EdwardP T-Mobile since 2004 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,092 Phone(s): Nokia 6101 Provider(s): T-Mobile Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Images: 3	Re: T-Mobile Going Quad-Band? Is the native T-Mobile network also going 850/1900 or is staying at 1900? If they change it to 850/1900, I know several people who will be VERY HAPPY to get a signal inside a building without having to move to a window. __________________ T-Mobile: 126,700,000 customers and counting...

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Matt Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Lititz, Pa. Posts: 4,704 Phone(s): BlackBerry Pearl Provider(s): T-Mobile Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Images: 2	Re: T-Mobile Going Quad-Band? The native TM network will always be 1900 only since T-Mobile does not own any 850 spectrum. Andy - while I think TM has been slow to allow 850 roaming, overall I disagree with the need to allow it "from the beginning" - it took many months for Cingular and AT&T to get the kinks out of their 850 GSM systems. Obviously, that time has passed and the 850 networks are ready. There are a few reports internally of 850 being slowly opened up, I think in either MS or AL it is open on Unicel now. __________________ Join the T-Mobile Group Forum (or any other!) ...a/k/a cheerioboy26 elsewhere on the net....

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Matt Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Lititz, Pa. Posts: 4,704 Phone(s): BlackBerry Pearl Provider(s): T-Mobile Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Images: 2	Re: T-Mobile Going Quad-Band? True, but there aren't that many 850 phones for TM out there (ones that that TM crippled, that is). All phone companies change the software of the phone before they sell it, so barring 850 is just one step out of many. I agree that crippled phones probably won't be able to use 850 going forward. For a while TM did sell the 3595 with 850 open, IIRC. __________________ Join the T-Mobile Group Forum (or any other!) ...a/k/a cheerioboy26 elsewhere on the net....

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Matt Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Lititz, Pa. Posts: 4,704 Phone(s): BlackBerry Pearl Provider(s): T-Mobile Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Images: 2	Re: T-Mobile Going Quad-Band? I think only a firmware update will open up another band. __________________ Join the T-Mobile Group Forum (or any other!) ...a/k/a cheerioboy26 elsewhere on the net....

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