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azcellphonejunkie · 12-25-2004, 10:43 PM

Question for you all that know about the T-Mobile Plans.

I am currently on the Get More plan that has 600 Anytime minutes and 500 Call Forward Conditional minutes. I have recently gotten a Cingular Plan and want to keep the T-Mobile line, but get on the Basic plan that only has 60 minutes a month to keep the line active for $20 per month. The question is, are there any Call Forward Conditional minutes included with this plan? If so, how many. Most of the time I will have this line forwarded to my Cingular line, and use the T-Mobile line sparingly, or when needed in poor service areas. Anyone that has info on this plan would be appreciated. Thanks.

Gamer03 · 12-26-2004, 1:04 AM

T-Mobile offers Call Forward Conditional Minutes?

How did you get that on your plan az? I don't see that option for our SW Florida market.

Maybe it is only available in certain areas.

Matt · 12-26-2004, 1:25 AM

AZ, I am almost positive, but not 100%, that the $20 plan includes the 500 CCF minutes, as does every plan. You need to make sure you set CF properly on your phone to use these minutes, if you set "forward all calls" you use Unconditional CF minutes, and those come out of your plan as appropriate.

azcellphonejunkie · 12-26-2004, 1:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Gamer03

T-Mobile offers Call Forward Conditional Minutes?

How did you get that on your plan az? I don't see that option for our SW Florida market.

Maybe it is only available in certain areas.

I didn't DO anything. It is just part of the plan that is not advertised.

azcellphonejunkie · 12-26-2004, 1:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt

AZ, I am almost positive, but not 100%, that the $20 plan includes the 500 CCF minutes, as does every plan. You need to make sure you set CF properly on your phone to use these minutes, if you set "forward all calls" you use Unconditional CF minutes, and those come out of your plan as appropriate.

Thanks Matt, I appreciate the info. I know about the different types of forwarding options, and am planning on using the "forward all calls" option once I get my plan switched over. I have 9 months left on the contract, so the $20 per month is cheaper than the Early Termination fee, and I still keep the phone number and account active when needed!

budney · 12-26-2004, 1:28 PM

I hope you are right Matt. As I will be switching to the Basic Plan next month, untill my contract ends in July. If T-Mobile dosn't offer Unconditional CF minutes on that plan I will end up porting my 714 number back over to Cingular.

azcellphonejunkie · 12-26-2004, 1:35 PM

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Originally Posted by budney

I hope you are right Matt. As I will be switching to the Basic Plan next month, untill my contract ends in July. If T-Mobile dosn't offer Unconditional CF minutes on that plan I will end up porting my 714 number back over to Cingular.

Matt is Correct. I just switched my plan to the Basic one, and have the 500 Call Forward minutes on the line. The rep was even so helpful to offer to help me set up the call forwarding if I wanted! So yes I can confirm, all plans include 500 Call Fowarding minutes...

budney · 12-26-2004, 1:37 PM

Thanks AZ!

azcellphonejunkie · 12-26-2004, 1:41 PM

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Originally Posted by budney

Thanks AZ!

No problem, having the forwarding minutes will be a HUGE benefit so I don't have to worry about having 3 phones with me all the time!

Matt · 12-26-2004, 2:27 PM

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Originally Posted by azcellphonejunkie

Thanks Matt, I appreciate the info. I know about the different types of forwarding options, and am planning on using the "forward all calls" option once I get my plan switched over. I have 9 months left on the contract, so the $20 per month is cheaper than the Early Termination fee, and I still keep the phone number and account active when needed!

Just to make sure everyone understands the 500 minute Conditional CF bucket. You cannot use the "forward all calls" option to use this bucket. "Fwd all calls" comes out of your bucket, which is just 60 whenever minutes plus 500 weekends.

budney · 12-26-2004, 2:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt

Just to make sure everyone understands the 500 minute Conditional CF bucket. You cannot use the "forward all calls" option to use this bucket. "Fwd all calls" comes out of your bucket, which is just 60 whenever minutes plus 500 weekends.

Then which option do you use?

I am using the "forward all calls" option for the past few months, and it comes out of the CF bucket on my $39.99 plan.

Gamer03 · 12-26-2004, 2:51 PM

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Originally Posted by azcellphonejunkie

I didn't DO anything. It is just part of the plan that is not advertised.

Hmm....I didn't know that.

Thanks for mentioning it azcellphonejunkie.

AnthroMatt · 12-26-2004, 4:16 PM

TM includes the CCF minutes because of the way their voicemail system is set up. Those count as forwarded minutes, so the 500 CCF are meant to protect users from having any of their plan minutes deducted when someone calls and leaves them VM. Hence, the "condition" part of the call forwarding.

azcellphonejunkie · 12-26-2004, 5:43 PM

It seems that there is a lot of confusion about the Conditional Call Forward minutes. Can someone please explain when these are used? If they are not used for the FWD all calls, then whey are they used?

AnthroMatt · 12-26-2004, 5:51 PM

As I understand it, Conditional Call Forward (CCF) minutes are used when incoming calls are forwarded to the TM voice mail number.

Matt · 12-26-2004, 5:54 PM

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Originally Posted by AnthroMatt

As I understand it, Conditional Call Forward (CCF) minutes are used when incoming calls are forwarded to the TM voice mail number.

Yes, because that is what your phone is set to forward to by default (for the forwarding options other than forward all calls. You can choose another option from your phone menus.

azcellphonejunkie · 12-26-2004, 5:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt

Yes, because that is what your phone is set to forward to by default (for the forwarding options other than forward all calls. You can choose another option from your phone menus.

OK, so if you choose another option from the menu, are the minutes still deducted from your CCF minutes, or from your buckets of minutes? I have tried to make a few calls here today to my T-Mobile phone forwarded to the Cingular phone, and they haven't shown up from either bucket!

Matt · 12-26-2004, 6:03 PM

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Originally Posted by budney

Then which option do you use?

I am using the "forward all calls" option for the past few months, and it comes out of the CF bucket on my $39.99 plan.

Well, that's my understading of how it is supposed to work. Here's another thread I googled that has posts from people I trust.

http://www.cell-talk.com/Call_Forwar...12-1218-a.html

YMMV, since I don't use the CF sevices at all

azcellphonejunkie · 12-26-2004, 6:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt

Well, that's my understading of how it is supposed to work. Here's another thread I googled that has posts from people I trust.

http://www.cell-talk.com/Call_Forwar...12-1218-a.html

YMMV, since I don't use the CF sevices at all

I think I understand it now, I have to use a "Condition" to make the minutes be pulled from my CCF bucket. The posted website seems to make that clear. I will do some more tests to find out if that is in fact true from the T-Mobile billing system.

azcellphonejunkie · 12-26-2004, 10:42 PM

Another Question...Do you have to have the phone that you are using to forward all unanswered calls on to make the CCF minutes register? I have tried both and it looks like when the phone is off, the minutes are not taken out of the the CCF minutes. However, it doesn't look like they have been taken out of the regular minutes either. Very strange. Anyone have input on that?

12-25-2004, 10:43 PM	#1 (permalink)
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12-26-2004, 1:04 AM	#2 (permalink)
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budney Resident Headbanger Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Tardville Posts: 4,435 Phone(s): Katana II, HTC Vogue (Touch), Moto Q Provider(s): Sprint Devices: 30GB Zune & 1GB Zen Stone Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Images: 14 My Auctions	Re: T-Mobile Forwarding Minutes I hope you are right Matt. As I will be switching to the Basic Plan next month, untill my contract ends in July. If T-Mobile dosn't offer Unconditional CF minutes on that plan I will end up porting my 714 number back over to Cingular. __________________ Thanks Sprint for turning on EV in Bullhead & Laughlin, just hurry it up with Ft. Mohave!!!

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AnthroMatt Big Meanie Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 8,322 Phone(s): Motorola V950 Provider(s): Sprint + Airave Thanks: 3 Thanked 11 Times in 8 Posts Images: 1	Re: T-Mobile Forwarding Minutes TM includes the CCF minutes because of the way their voicemail system is set up. Those count as forwarded minutes, so the 500 CCF are meant to protect users from having any of their plan minutes deducted when someone calls and leaves them VM. Hence, the "condition" part of the call forwarding. __________________ Motorola V950

12-26-2004, 5:43 PM	#14 (permalink)
azcellphonejunkie The Cell Phone Junkie Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Cave Creek, AZ Posts: 2,822 Phone(s): Treo 750, HTC Diamond, BB Pearl, iPhone Provider(s): ATT\|Prior: SPCS, Alltel, T-Mble, Nextel, Verizon Devices: Acura GPS, iPAQ rx3100, Bluetooth Thanks: 1 Thanked 10 Times in 6 Posts My Auctions	Re: T-Mobile Forwarding Minutes It seems that there is a lot of confusion about the Conditional Call Forward minutes. Can someone please explain when these are used? If they are not used for the FWD all calls, then whey are they used?

12-26-2004, 5:51 PM	#15 (permalink)
AnthroMatt Big Meanie Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 8,322 Phone(s): Motorola V950 Provider(s): Sprint + Airave Thanks: 3 Thanked 11 Times in 8 Posts Images: 1	Re: T-Mobile Forwarding Minutes As I understand it, Conditional Call Forward (CCF) minutes are used when incoming calls are forwarded to the TM voice mail number. __________________ Motorola V950

12-26-2004, 10:42 PM	#20 (permalink)
azcellphonejunkie The Cell Phone Junkie Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Cave Creek, AZ Posts: 2,822 Phone(s): Treo 750, HTC Diamond, BB Pearl, iPhone Provider(s): ATT\|Prior: SPCS, Alltel, T-Mble, Nextel, Verizon Devices: Acura GPS, iPAQ rx3100, Bluetooth Thanks: 1 Thanked 10 Times in 6 Posts My Auctions	Re: T-Mobile Forwarding Minutes Another Question...Do you have to have the phone that you are using to forward all unanswered calls on to make the CCF minutes register? I have tried both and it looks like when the phone is off, the minutes are not taken out of the the CCF minutes. However, it doesn't look like they have been taken out of the regular minutes either. Very strange. Anyone have input on that?

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