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evilmrt · 02-20-2007, 8:48 PM

Hey folks,

I've been looking at dumping Verizon and getting Sprint for a while now, especially with SERO (I want unlimited data). One problem though....Sprint doesn't have EV-DO here in Flagstaff, AZ yet. They told me in December that they would have it in January. Now they're telling me they don't know when they'll get it. Does anyone here (Larry?) have any info on this?

Sprint doesn't have EV-DO here, but Alltel and Verizon do. I understand that I can data roam and use Alltel's EV-DO? What kind of usage can I get out of Alltell's network without being kicked by Sprint for roaming too much?

Thanks.

larry · 02-20-2007, 9:08 PM

There are no plans to put EV-DO in Flagstaff at this time. It's a former affiliate market.

Andy · 02-20-2007, 9:55 PM

You could EVDO Data roam on ALLTEL and 1x data roam on Verizon but there is another thread here on the forums about Sprint apparently cracking up on people who roam too much. Have you considered ALLTEL too or are you looking at switching to Sprint because of SERO?

evilmrt · 02-20-2007, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Andy

You could EVDO Data roam on ALLTEL and 1x data roam on Verizon but there is another thread here on the forums about Sprint apparently cracking up on people who roam too much. Have you considered ALLTEL too or are you looking at switching to Sprint because of SERO?

I was looking at Sprint for two reasons...1. SERO : the price is too good to beat if you want unlimited data, and 2. I'm sick of Verizon's UI, the way they lock down features on phones, and how "unlimited data" = 5 gb.

Thanks Larry. Thats a shame that Sprint EV-DO isn't coming here (even though they keep saying it is) while the other two CDMA carriers have it. Guess they don't want to be competitive.

larry · 02-21-2007, 3:55 AM

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Originally Posted by evilmrt

Thanks Larry. Thats a shame that Sprint EV-DO isn't coming here (even though they keep saying it is) while the other two CDMA carriers have it. Guess they don't want to be competitive.

It's not really about being competitive. It's about their priorities and whether or not they want to budget their money doing that or something else that can make them a better return. It's simply a business decision. Eventually it will come but just not in the near future.

TKR · 02-24-2007, 1:07 AM

I thought Sprint has been saying the whole network will be EVDO by end of this year.

larry · 02-24-2007, 3:53 AM

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Originally Posted by TKR

I thought Sprint has been saying the whole network will be EVDO by end of this year.

I hadn't heard that but it's possible. Still have 10 months to go. I don't think the affiliate areas will be ready by then.

budney · 02-24-2007, 1:50 PM

I was told that EV would be national by the end of the year when I called the direct number for Vision/PV the other night. The bad thing is that call left me with more questions then answers.

larry · 02-24-2007, 3:39 PM

Rule No. 1:

Never believe anything you hear from someone who works for Sprint because usually it's just speculation and not fact.

SmArTeStChIlD421 · 02-25-2007, 6:38 PM

and have you checked the new and improved coverage maps to see about upcoming tower improvements?

SmArTeStChIlD421 · 02-25-2007, 6:42 PM

woah........now that i check it myself.........only certain areas have the info about towers added in the past 90 days and to be added in 120 days..........those options disappear when you enter in Flagstaff

dave40252 · 02-28-2007, 9:44 PM

Hi all, there seems to be a lot of smart people on these boards - hope some one can fill me in - I have a new SERO plan with unlimited (power) vision and a Sanyo 8400. Sprint does not have EVDO in my area, but Alltel does. I thought I would be able to data roam on the Alltel EVDO coverage by setting the phone to force roaming, but cannot - - wrote to ecare about this and here is their reply. Can someone tell me if this makes sense? It does not to me. Thanks

"I have reviewed the EVDO service in your area and see that Sprint doesn't offer the service. Unfortunately, since your phone is in an area where you have Sprint coverage, you will not be able to get EVDO speeds, regardless if you set your phone on "Roaming Only" or not. Since there is Sprint coverage, you will only get 1x speed when you access your internet."

SmArTeStChIlD421 · 02-28-2007, 10:44 PM

thats odd because i have Sptin in my area and i force roam when i get into mountains and it doesnt switch over to Verizon right away and i can 1x roam as i please.............maybe its just part of the agreement.....

no Sprint customers can data roam in an area where Sprint already provides some sort of data coverage...maybe???

dave40252 · 03-01-2007, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SmArTeStChIlD421

thats odd because i have Sptin in my area and i force roam when i get into mountains and it doesnt switch over to Verizon right away and i can 1x roam as i please.............maybe its just part of the agreement.....

no Sprint customers can data roam in an area where Sprint already provides some sort of data coverage...maybe???

I guess that is what they are saying, though it doesn't make much sense to me - when i force roaming it uses USCC for voice in a Sprint area. If it is roaming for voice I would think it is roaming for data. I am wondering if the PRL just doesnt get to Alltel. I have been searching to find out what is the preferred roaming priority but haven't found anything yet. I did ask ecare but i am not holding my breath on that one.

larry · 03-02-2007, 12:11 AM

Never ask ecare or customer service about who a roaming partner is in a given area because they really don't know how to answer that.

As far as I know Sprint has data roaming capabilities but it is at 1X only. No EV-DO roaming yet.

music4praise · 03-02-2007, 9:32 AM

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Originally Posted by larry

As far as I know Sprint has data roaming capabilities but it is at 1X only. No EV-DO roaming yet.

Alltel turned on EVDO roaming with Sprint yesterday (March 1) for data cards. EVDO capable handsets are to follow in the next few weeks. One of Alltel's techs reported that it works well although the handoffs between carriers are not clean yet. Given this news, it seems likely that Sprint customers will have EVDO roaming on Alltel very soon.

SmArTeStChIlD421 · 03-02-2007, 4:47 PM

i've heard about the EV roaming in Alltel and the 1x roaming on VZW but will we get EV roaming on VZW at all?

any ideas?

xenophon · 03-02-2007, 5:22 PM

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Originally Posted by music4praise

Given this news, it seems likely that Sprint customers will have EVDO roaming on Alltel very soon.

Sprint customers have been data roaming on Alltel since late last year. Sprint users need PRL 20225 or later. I've been roaming data often with Sprint EVDO card on Alltel network, free and unlimited. Verizon only roams 1xRTT to Sprint and Alltel, not DO.

The combined Sprint/Alltel EVDO network is quite a bit larger than Verizon.

It would be interesting if Verizon/Alltel do a DO agreement, as Alltel would actually have the largest DO network. If a Verizon/Alltel agreement happens, I'd imagine a Verizon/Sprint agreement would happen at the same time, that way all players are equal players (in terms of DO coverage).

SmArTeStChIlD421 · 03-02-2007, 5:24 PM

just so you all know...........i got my account flagged when i was emailing CS about another problem and i tried to update but the frst time it didnt work...........the second time i got PRL 20226 for all who havent updated

xenophon · 03-02-2007, 5:52 PM

BTW, one big advantage for Sprint data card users is that they can force roaming and force EVDO if they'd like. Alltel and Verizon users can't do that on data cards. It's actually a huge advantage.

xenophon · 03-02-2007, 5:54 PM

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Originally Posted by larry

No EV-DO roaming yet.

Sprint users have been roaming on Alltel EVDO ever since PRL 20225. I've been doing it since December.

SmArTeStChIlD421 · 03-02-2007, 6:28 PM

i think he meant to say that there is no EV-DO roaming on VZW..........and PRLs actually have nothing to do with who you can roam on...........

and is it possible that larry doesnt know something about the Sprint roaming agreements...........is larry out of the loop?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

dave40252 · 03-02-2007, 9:03 PM

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Originally Posted by xenophon

Sprint customers have been data roaming on Alltel since late last year. Sprint users need PRL 20225 or later. I've been roaming data often with Sprint EVDO card on Alltel network, free and unlimited. Verizon only roams 1xRTT to Sprint and Alltel, not DO.

xenophone, have you been able to data roam on Alltel when you are in an area with native Sprint coverage ? Would it be any different for a phone instead of a card?

02-20-2007, 8:48 PM	#1 (permalink)
evilmrt I have a weird title! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Flagstaff, AZ Posts: 6 Phone(s): Razr V3m, Nokia 6620 Provider(s): Verizon Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	EV-DO coverage / data roaming Hey folks, I've been looking at dumping Verizon and getting Sprint for a while now, especially with SERO (I want unlimited data). One problem though....Sprint doesn't have EV-DO here in Flagstaff, AZ yet. They told me in December that they would have it in January. Now they're telling me they don't know when they'll get it. Does anyone here (Larry?) have any info on this? Sprint doesn't have EV-DO here, but Alltel and Verizon do. I understand that I can data roam and use Alltel's EV-DO? What kind of usage can I get out of Alltell's network without being kicked by Sprint for roaming too much? Thanks.

02-20-2007, 9:08 PM	#2 (permalink)
larry Go Angels! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 12,870 Phone(s): LG Rumor Provider(s): Sprint Thanks: 11 Thanked 14 Times in 14 Posts Images: 146 My Auctions	Re: EV-DO coverage / data roaming There are no plans to put EV-DO in Flagstaff at this time. It's a former affiliate market.

02-20-2007, 9:55 PM	#3 (permalink)
Andy Join Date: May 2003 Location: Campione, Italy Posts: 10,285 Phone(s): HTC 6900 Touch, Motorola RAZR V3i Provider(s): VZW, Vodafone D2, Solomo, Swisscom Mobile Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Images: 130	Re: EV-DO coverage / data roaming You could EVDO Data roam on ALLTEL and 1x data roam on Verizon but there is another thread here on the forums about Sprint apparently cracking up on people who roam too much. Have you considered ALLTEL too or are you looking at switching to Sprint because of SERO?

02-24-2007, 1:07 AM	#6 (permalink)
TKR Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 445 Provider(s): AT&T Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: EV-DO coverage / data roaming I thought Sprint has been saying the whole network will be EVDO by end of this year.

02-24-2007, 1:50 PM	#8 (permalink)
budney Resident Headbanger Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Tardville Posts: 4,435 Phone(s): Katana II, HTC Vogue (Touch), Moto Q Provider(s): Sprint Devices: 30GB Zune & 1GB Zen Stone Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Images: 14 My Auctions	Re: EV-DO coverage / data roaming I was told that EV would be national by the end of the year when I called the direct number for Vision/PV the other night. The bad thing is that call left me with more questions then answers. __________________ Thanks Sprint for turning on EV in Bullhead & Laughlin, just hurry it up with Ft. Mohave!!!

02-24-2007, 3:39 PM	#9 (permalink)
larry Go Angels! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 12,870 Phone(s): LG Rumor Provider(s): Sprint Thanks: 11 Thanked 14 Times in 14 Posts Images: 146 My Auctions	Re: EV-DO coverage / data roaming Rule No. 1: Never believe anything you hear from someone who works for Sprint because usually it's just speculation and not fact.

02-25-2007, 6:38 PM	#10 (permalink)
SmArTeStChIlD421 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Reading, PA Posts: 3,639 Phone(s): Motorola RAZR V3m (Red) Provider(s): Sprint Thanks: 4 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: EV-DO coverage / data roaming and have you checked the new and improved coverage maps to see about upcoming tower improvements?

02-25-2007, 6:42 PM	#11 (permalink)
SmArTeStChIlD421 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Reading, PA Posts: 3,639 Phone(s): Motorola RAZR V3m (Red) Provider(s): Sprint Thanks: 4 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: EV-DO coverage / data roaming woah........now that i check it myself.........only certain areas have the info about towers added in the past 90 days and to be added in 120 days..........those options disappear when you enter in Flagstaff

02-28-2007, 9:44 PM	#12 (permalink)
dave40252 No more newbie here! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: EV-DO coverage / data roaming Hi all, there seems to be a lot of smart people on these boards - hope some one can fill me in - I have a new SERO plan with unlimited (power) vision and a Sanyo 8400. Sprint does not have EVDO in my area, but Alltel does. I thought I would be able to data roam on the Alltel EVDO coverage by setting the phone to force roaming, but cannot - - wrote to ecare about this and here is their reply. Can someone tell me if this makes sense? It does not to me. Thanks "I have reviewed the EVDO service in your area and see that Sprint doesn't offer the service. Unfortunately, since your phone is in an area where you have Sprint coverage, you will not be able to get EVDO speeds, regardless if you set your phone on "Roaming Only" or not. Since there is Sprint coverage, you will only get 1x speed when you access your internet."

02-28-2007, 10:44 PM	#13 (permalink)
SmArTeStChIlD421 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Reading, PA Posts: 3,639 Phone(s): Motorola RAZR V3m (Red) Provider(s): Sprint Thanks: 4 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: EV-DO coverage / data roaming thats odd because i have Sptin in my area and i force roam when i get into mountains and it doesnt switch over to Verizon right away and i can 1x roam as i please.............maybe its just part of the agreement..... no Sprint customers can data roam in an area where Sprint already provides some sort of data coverage...maybe???

03-02-2007, 12:11 AM	#15 (permalink)
larry Go Angels! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 12,870 Phone(s): LG Rumor Provider(s): Sprint Thanks: 11 Thanked 14 Times in 14 Posts Images: 146 My Auctions	Re: EV-DO coverage / data roaming Never ask ecare or customer service about who a roaming partner is in a given area because they really don't know how to answer that. As far as I know Sprint has data roaming capabilities but it is at 1X only. No EV-DO roaming yet.

03-02-2007, 4:47 PM	#17 (permalink)
SmArTeStChIlD421 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Reading, PA Posts: 3,639 Phone(s): Motorola RAZR V3m (Red) Provider(s): Sprint Thanks: 4 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: EV-DO coverage / data roaming i've heard about the EV roaming in Alltel and the 1x roaming on VZW but will we get EV roaming on VZW at all? any ideas?

03-02-2007, 5:24 PM	#19 (permalink)
SmArTeStChIlD421 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Reading, PA Posts: 3,639 Phone(s): Motorola RAZR V3m (Red) Provider(s): Sprint Thanks: 4 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: EV-DO coverage / data roaming just so you all know...........i got my account flagged when i was emailing CS about another problem and i tried to update but the frst time it didnt work...........the second time i got PRL 20226 for all who havent updated

03-02-2007, 5:52 PM	#20 (permalink)
xenophon Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 216 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: EV-DO coverage / data roaming BTW, one big advantage for Sprint data card users is that they can force roaming and force EVDO if they'd like. Alltel and Verizon users can't do that on data cards. It's actually a huge advantage.

03-02-2007, 6:28 PM	#22 (permalink)
SmArTeStChIlD421 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Reading, PA Posts: 3,639 Phone(s): Motorola RAZR V3m (Red) Provider(s): Sprint Thanks: 4 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: EV-DO coverage / data roaming i think he meant to say that there is no EV-DO roaming on VZW..........and PRLs actually have nothing to do with who you can roam on........... and is it possible that larry doesnt know something about the Sprint roaming agreements...........is larry out of the loop?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

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