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samdeman · 11-22-2002, 9:07 AM

Hi

I am trying to figure out if it is worth investing and then signing up for service for the blackberry or a similiar device for voice & Data. What I was able to find out in the mean time, is the following:

ATT: their service for data is pretty cheap, $49, will get me unlimited Data Transfer on the GSM network. and voice on the GSM is pretty cheap. Problem is, GSM in New York for ATT is fairly new, and a friend told me, and i saw it also here on a bullettin that their service does NOT work indoors. i don't know about the data, i heard it only about voice.

T Mobile: I heard from a friend of mine in Boston, that the service works fine even in New York for Data and Voice. Problem is, they don't have a good plan for Data. I think their simplest (meaning a single connection) is $99 for a few hundred MB. may not be enough. if i go over the allowed Data, the incremental cost is prohibitively expensive. Voice doesn't seem to be the problem with them, i can get a plan for $99/5,000 anytime minutes.

other companies: i think ATT & Tmobile are the only ones supporting blackberry or a similiar Nokia product.

Please let me know if you have any advice. I am aware that here in New York City, this technology seems to be too new.

thanx,

samdeman

jmccrane · 11-22-2002, 10:00 AM

Cingular supports/sells Blackberry. Cingualr runs a mobile data network completely separate from its voice network. I'm not totally sure about Cingular's pricing though. BTW, AT&T GSM should work almost as well as its exisiting TDMA service in NYC, since they use the same towers.

Also, Sprint sells the Handspring Treo PDA/phone combo and you can get unlimited data on it for $10 extra on any monthly plan. Sprint's as good as anyone in NYC in terms of coverage. It's really hard to go wrong with anybody's coverage in NYC.

emag0rad · 11-22-2002, 11:48 AM

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Originally posted by: jmccrane
Cingular supports/sells Blackberry. Cingualr runs a mobile data network completely separate from its voice network. I'm not totally sure about Cingular's pricing though. BTW, AT&T GSM should work almost as well as its exisiting TDMA service in NYC, since they use the same towers.

Also, Sprint sells the Handspring Treo PDA/phone combo and you can get unlimited data on it for $10 extra on any monthly plan. Sprint's as good as anyone in NYC in terms of coverage. It's really hard to go wrong with anybody's coverage in NYC.

You are talking about two different Blackberry devices. samdeman is referring to the GSM/GPRS Blackberry device. Cingular runs GSM/GPRS but the seperate data network you are referring to is Cingular's Mobitex network - the Blackberry Device for that network is completely different from the GSM/GPRS device with respect to how wireless data is accomplished.

jmccrane · 11-22-2002, 12:00 PM

I apologize...emag0rad is correct about the technology differences. However, I still hold that the other things I said are accurate [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] Also< i am not sure how fast the Mobitex network is.

emag0rad · 11-22-2002, 2:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by: jmccrane
I apologize...emag0rad is correct about the technology differences. However, I still hold that the other things I said are accurate [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] Also< i am not sure how fast the Mobitex network is.

Not very ~ about 2400 baud on average with peaks at about 9600. It's not designed for "surfing" - rudimentary e-mail and machine to machine communication, it is packet-based though.

leland · 11-22-2002, 3:28 PM

What about the t-mobile sidekick?

Unlimited data for a year and ok voice plan.

voice service is good in my part NYC (manhattan below 125th).

jmccrane · 11-22-2002, 4:59 PM

The sidekick might be good for this person's needs. If you can get coverage with T-Mo, I think this would work for you.

herbrock17 · 12-09-2002, 6:52 PM

Verizon Wireless is getting the Blackberry for use on their Express Network. That's all I know so far, and all I've heard...now you can have a great unit without having to settle for "not-so-up-to-par" network, all you wireless/mobile professionals out there...peace all

NYCDru · 12-09-2002, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by: jmccrane
Cingular supports/sells Blackberry. Cingualr runs a mobile data network completely separate from its voice network. I'm not totally sure about Cingular's pricing though. BTW, AT&T GSM should work almost as well as its exisiting TDMA service in NYC, since they use the same towers.

ATT TDMA = 800 Mhz = building penetration!!!

ATT GSM = 1900 Mhz = What building penetration?

NYCDru · 12-09-2002, 11:25 PM

Honestly though, people either love it or hate it, I get so many mixed reviews from people on it.

11-22-2002, 9:07 AM	#1 (permalink)
samdeman I made my first post! Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	T Mobile - Blackberry and Nokia Hi I am trying to figure out if it is worth investing and then signing up for service for the blackberry or a similiar device for voice & Data. What I was able to find out in the mean time, is the following: ATT: their service for data is pretty cheap, $49, will get me unlimited Data Transfer on the GSM network. and voice on the GSM is pretty cheap. Problem is, GSM in New York for ATT is fairly new, and a friend told me, and i saw it also here on a bullettin that their service does NOT work indoors. i don't know about the data, i heard it only about voice. T Mobile: I heard from a friend of mine in Boston, that the service works fine even in New York for Data and Voice. Problem is, they don't have a good plan for Data. I think their simplest (meaning a single connection) is $99 for a few hundred MB. may not be enough. if i go over the allowed Data, the incremental cost is prohibitively expensive. Voice doesn't seem to be the problem with them, i can get a plan for $99/5,000 anytime minutes. other companies: i think ATT & Tmobile are the only ones supporting blackberry or a similiar Nokia product. Please let me know if you have any advice. I am aware that here in New York City, this technology seems to be too new. thanx, samdeman

11-22-2002, 10:00 AM	#2 (permalink)
jmccrane Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 962 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	T Mobile - Blackberry and Nokia Cingular supports/sells Blackberry. Cingualr runs a mobile data network completely separate from its voice network. I'm not totally sure about Cingular's pricing though. BTW, AT&T GSM should work almost as well as its exisiting TDMA service in NYC, since they use the same towers. Also, Sprint sells the Handspring Treo PDA/phone combo and you can get unlimited data on it for $10 extra on any monthly plan. Sprint's as good as anyone in NYC in terms of coverage. It's really hard to go wrong with anybody's coverage in NYC.

11-22-2002, 12:00 PM	#4 (permalink)
jmccrane Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 962 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	T Mobile - Blackberry and Nokia I apologize...emag0rad is correct about the technology differences. However, I still hold that the other things I said are accurate [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] Also< i am not sure how fast the Mobitex network is.

11-22-2002, 3:28 PM	#6 (permalink)
leland One more post and I'm... Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	T Mobile - Blackberry and Nokia What about the t-mobile sidekick? Unlimited data for a year and ok voice plan. voice service is good in my part NYC (manhattan below 125th).

11-22-2002, 4:59 PM	#7 (permalink)
jmccrane Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 962 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	T Mobile - Blackberry and Nokia The sidekick might be good for this person's needs. If you can get coverage with T-Mo, I think this would work for you.

12-09-2002, 6:52 PM	#8 (permalink)
herbrock17 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 116 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	T Mobile - Blackberry and Nokia Verizon Wireless is getting the Blackberry for use on their Express Network. That's all I know so far, and all I've heard...now you can have a great unit without having to settle for "not-so-up-to-par" network, all you wireless/mobile professionals out there...peace all

12-09-2002, 11:25 PM	#10 (permalink)
NYCDru Sprint Newbie Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: NYC Posts: 3,243 Phone(s): Motrola V3m, Moto E815, Audiovox 9900, Audiovox 8900, LGvx 10,, Nokia 3360, Moto P8767 Provider(s): Sprint, Verizon(former), ATT(former), Devices: IPod Nano. Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	T Mobile - Blackberry and Nokia Honestly though, people either love it or hate it, I get so many mixed reviews from people on it.

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