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Shocka · 07-23-2003, 11:33 PM

I live in Long Island, NY and ive been having sever problems with Verizon Service I barely get signals ive missed alot of calls!! i wanna know if anyone else is experiencing this? I have few friends in the area with simlar problems as I.

budney · 07-24-2003, 12:11 PM

Where on LI do you live? And which phones do your friends have? I was just there for two weeks. One of my relatives has Verizon in Huntington, and he wasn't having any troubles. Also the a310 is known to sometimes have poor RF. You may want to try another phone to see if the service gets better.

njsvrzncdma · 07-26-2003, 8:15 AM

only way to see if its your phone is to find others that live there with verizon service and have a diferent handset. or you can go the expensive way and buy another one.

mrsocks · 07-29-2003, 2:09 PM

has your bad signal been on and off over the past month or so?
i have been having the same problems.

i know in the area here in northern NJ, the end of June i was having really bad signal problems; dropped calls, analog, no signal, etc...

i am now noticing that the reception is terrible recently.

has your reception changed also?

ps.
is your SN from paintball?

ajulius · 07-29-2003, 6:52 PM

I am having similar problems with a Samsung A310 phone.

In my house I used to get 3 to 4 bars of coverage. Now at times I get analog coverage or 1 bar digital. I have had my phone switch to analog a few times in various areas which are usually strong digital areas. It seems to be time dependent, as now I turn on my cell phone in my house at 8:40PM and I get 3 bars. I do know that a new tower is scheduled to be built in my area thats actually just a tad closer to me than the other 2 closest towers now. So my guess is that as more customers are using the cell, the coverage area diminishes so they need to build new towers to compensate.

PADutchman · 07-31-2003, 8:20 AM

Verizon has recorded record numbers of new subscribers.

Technical documents on CDMA Technology state - " the capacity of the cell / sector is only limited by the call quality the customer can tolerate"

Sounds like maybe this is it - I can tell you that the call quality stinks much of the time in my area.

mrsocks · 07-31-2003, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Technical documents on CDMA Technology state - " the capacity of the cell / sector is only limited by the call quality the customer can tolerate"

i hate big business and i am sure that this will be an unfortunate result of a company just trying to squeeze more for less and in the end, the customer looses AGAIN.

"Ca uo He r M Now?"

"what?"

bobolito · 07-31-2003, 1:37 PM

It's only a natural cycle: a company has a really good network, they get really popular, everyone starts signing up with them, they add more customers than everyone else, they are the best in the business, and then their own success sooner or later begins to backfire at them. Once they have too many customers and are at the top of the hill, people begin to experience problems, the network becomes annoyingly busy, the quality starts to degrade because of the overcrowded systems, and people become discontent and start to leave. After this, the company growth stalls, and another company begins the same cycle by stealing the customers. The same happened to Cingular in CA, it happened to AOL in the late 90's and may happen to Verizon soon.

njsvrzncdma · 07-31-2003, 3:34 PM

well that stinks. as far as i have seen i havent had any problems with them. i recently went to atlantic city and had great receptin everywhere except deep in the casinos. but neither did anyone else.

PADutchman · 07-31-2003, 9:58 PM

If it weren't for the fact that the TDMA / GSM migrator networks are in such bad shape right now too, with LNP, VZN would likely lose some subs.

Holy heck,.....T Mobile may even benefit from this !!!!

acranox · 08-01-2003, 8:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by: bobolito
It's only a natural cycle: a company has a really good network, they get really popular, everyone starts signing up with them, they add more customers than everyone else, they are the best in the business, and then their own success sooner or later begins to backfire at them. Once they have too many customers and are at the top of the hill, people begin to experience problems, the network becomes annoyingly busy, the quality starts to degrade because of the overcrowded systems, and people become discontent and start to leave. After this, the company growth stalls, and another company begins the same cycle by stealing the customers. The same happened to Cingular in CA, it happened to AOL in the late 90's and may happen to Verizon soon.

of course the beauty is that Verizon tests their network daily. So if they are reaching capacity, they'll know real quick, and start working to increase capacity. For that reason, they can still stay on top if they want to.

acranox · 08-01-2003, 8:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by: bobolito
It's only a natural cycle: a company has a really good network, they get really popular, everyone starts signing up with them, they add more customers than everyone else, they are the best in the business, and then their own success sooner or later begins to backfire at them. Once they have too many customers and are at the top of the hill, people begin to experience problems, the network becomes annoyingly busy, the quality starts to degrade because of the overcrowded systems, and people become discontent and start to leave. After this, the company growth stalls, and another company begins the same cycle by stealing the customers. The same happened to Cingular in CA, it happened to AOL in the late 90's and may happen to Verizon soon.

of course the beauty is that Verizon tests their network daily. So if they are reaching capacity, they'll know real quick, and start working to increase capacity. For that reason, they can still stay on top if they want to.

AnthroMatt · 08-01-2003, 9:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by: acranox
of course the beauty is that Verizon tests their network daily. So if they are reaching capacity, they'll know real quick, and start working to increase capacity. For that reason, they can still stay on top if they want to.

ALL carriers do this, Verizon is the only one that makes commercials out of it. And apparently their ads are having the desired effect.

And if Verizon is reaching capacity they can't just throw up a tower wherever they feel like it. It probably takes at least 12 months from when the need for new coverage/capacity is identified to when it is actually built and operational.

PADutchman · 08-01-2003, 11:34 AM

Although this may seem like a duty above and beyond, yes as far as I know, all wireless providers do at least some testing.

The kicker is, that this testing, as explained on their website, specifically tests "call connectivity / dropped call ratio" NOT call quality.

You may have decent signal / non dropped calls, but if you have to repeat everything 3 times,...
well.

So, even this presentation of "Best Network" is simply VZN's interpretation.

07-23-2003, 11:33 PM	#1
Shocka Fresh Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: HIXville Posts: 22 Phone(s): 9900, i90 Provider(s): Verizon, Nextel Devices: Compaq IPaq 5440 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Verizon customers having problems? I live in Long Island, NY and ive been having sever problems with Verizon Service I barely get signals ive missed alot of calls!! i wanna know if anyone else is experiencing this? I have few friends in the area with simlar problems as I.

07-24-2003, 12:11 PM	#2
budney Resident Headbanger Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: FV, CA Posts: 4,720 Phone(s): HTC MyTouch, (Fender Editiion) Provider(s): T-Mobile Devices: 30GB Zune & 1GB Zen Stone Thanks: 10 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts Images: 14 My Auctions	Verizon customers having problems? Where on LI do you live? And which phones do your friends have? I was just there for two weeks. One of my relatives has Verizon in Huntington, and he wasn't having any troubles. Also the a310 is known to sometimes have poor RF. You may want to try another phone to see if the service gets better. __________________ 'If it ain't broke, don't fix it,' unless you're a tweaker, and in that case you already fixed it ten times and it's still broken. - Dave Mustaine

07-26-2003, 8:15 AM	#3
njsvrzncdma i cant stop the ringing.. Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: JeRsEy Posts: 2,576 Phone(s): LG vx8500, LG vx8100 Provider(s): VERIZON Devices: MP3, GPS, Wireless LAN, TV remote (lol) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts My Auctions	Verizon customers having problems? only way to see if its your phone is to find others that live there with verizon service and have a diferent handset. or you can go the expensive way and buy another one. __________________ "Be fruitful, curious, careful, intelligent, spontanious and wise but never forget to have fun, never forget to remember the good times, and always be true to yourself."

07-29-2003, 2:09 PM	#4
mrsocks Fresh Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 39 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Verizon customers having problems? has your bad signal been on and off over the past month or so? i have been having the same problems. i know in the area here in northern NJ, the end of June i was having really bad signal problems; dropped calls, analog, no signal, etc... i am now noticing that the reception is terrible recently. has your reception changed also? ps. is your SN from paintball?

07-29-2003, 6:52 PM	#5
ajulius Fresh Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 21 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Verizon customers having problems? I am having similar problems with a Samsung A310 phone. In my house I used to get 3 to 4 bars of coverage. Now at times I get analog coverage or 1 bar digital. I have had my phone switch to analog a few times in various areas which are usually strong digital areas. It seems to be time dependent, as now I turn on my cell phone in my house at 8:40PM and I get 3 bars. I do know that a new tower is scheduled to be built in my area thats actually just a tad closer to me than the other 2 closest towers now. So my guess is that as more customers are using the cell, the coverage area diminishes so they need to build new towers to compensate.

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07-31-2003, 8:20 AM	#6
PADutchman Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 260 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Verizon customers having problems? Verizon has recorded record numbers of new subscribers. Technical documents on CDMA Technology state - " the capacity of the cell / sector is only limited by the call quality the customer can tolerate" Sounds like maybe this is it - I can tell you that the call quality stinks much of the time in my area. __________________ VZN / fGTE Ntwk Tech.

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07-31-2003, 3:34 PM	#9
njsvrzncdma i cant stop the ringing.. Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: JeRsEy Posts: 2,576 Phone(s): LG vx8500, LG vx8100 Provider(s): VERIZON Devices: MP3, GPS, Wireless LAN, TV remote (lol) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts My Auctions	Verizon customers having problems? well that stinks. as far as i have seen i havent had any problems with them. i recently went to atlantic city and had great receptin everywhere except deep in the casinos. but neither did anyone else. __________________ "Be fruitful, curious, careful, intelligent, spontanious and wise but never forget to have fun, never forget to remember the good times, and always be true to yourself."

07-31-2003, 9:58 PM	#10
PADutchman Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 260 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Verizon customers having problems? If it weren't for the fact that the TDMA / GSM migrator networks are in such bad shape right now too, with LNP, VZN would likely lose some subs. Holy heck,.....T Mobile may even benefit from this !!!! __________________ VZN / fGTE Ntwk Tech.

08-01-2003, 11:34 AM	#14
PADutchman Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 260 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Verizon customers having problems? Although this may seem like a duty above and beyond, yes as far as I know, all wireless providers do at least some testing. The kicker is, that this testing, as explained on their website, specifically tests "call connectivity / dropped call ratio" NOT call quality. You may have decent signal / non dropped calls, but if you have to repeat everything 3 times,... well. So, even this presentation of "Best Network" is simply VZN's interpretation. __________________ VZN / fGTE Ntwk Tech.

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