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schapiro · 07-06-2003, 12:26 AM

The new Siemens s56, Motorola T720, and Samsung s307 have been out for months! Yet, they don't seem to be in any MD or DC stores at all. When is Cingular going to stock these phones in the Mid-Atlantic region so we can finally have something cool-looking? Is phonescoop.com the only source of this info?

GoodmanR · 07-06-2003, 10:34 AM

Cingular does not have these phones in the MD/DC/NOVA region because in this region, Cingular is still using TDMA. The new phones you are talking about are for GSM networks which Cingular has put up in many areas of the country. They are continuing to upgrade their TDMA networks, to GSM and will do so in DC eventually, but it is not there yet. Until then, you are stuck with the TDMA phones, and TDMA network.

njsvrzncdma · 07-06-2003, 11:15 AM

wow that bites ! Cingulars not that great anyway. IMO

PADutchman · 07-06-2003, 11:17 PM

Goodman R - Cingulars SuperHome GSM plan for my area shows it covering Baltimore and surrounding areas - if I were a GSM cust., using that as a reference, and later found that there was no GSM ntwk there, I'd be pretty PO'd - Iused it here in my area (York, PA.) Much smaller metro area, and it actually worked rather well - just alot of holes right now, and the GSM hard handoff / call drop is tuff to accept.
Cingular's had the GSM phones in my market for over 3 months......I'd think Baltimore would have been covered first.

bobolito · 07-07-2003, 9:24 AM

There's a difference between offering coverage and being able to sell service. When Cingular says there's GSM coverage in the MD/DC area, it doesn't mean they have a GSM network there. They may be simply roaming on AT&T GSM or T-Mobile or they may have their own GSM but it is not fully ready yet for commercial availability. Therefore, roamers from other GSM markets may use that coverage, however, local users cannot because they won't open the network for local marketing until it is ready.

PADutchman · 07-07-2003, 1:53 PM

Thats interesting. So by that definition then, Cingular must of had at least some of their GSM online in my area

I know at times the phone was on ATT as well. It was really quite odd, and you could literally see day to day that the network is being arranged. One day, I'd be at a place and it would say Cing Extend (ATT)
and the next, simply Cingular. I'm still confused as to whether they are using T mobile here
In some ways I miss the phone,......the call quality was superior. It would be thoroughly suitable for landline replacement.

GoodmanR · 07-07-2003, 7:48 PM

Cingular has no GSM coverage in the area, although GSM national plans can operate on ATT and I think T-mobile.

If they are upgrading, I doubt it will be complete soon.

Like bobolito said, Cingular can provide GSM customers from other markets service in the area, but cannot sell GSM service, and does not operate a local GSM network, therefor you cant have a cingular GSM phone if you live in dc/md/nova

07-06-2003, 12:26 AM	#1
schapiro No more newbie here! Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	When are the new Cingular phones coming to the MD/DC area? The new Siemens s56, Motorola T720, and Samsung s307 have been out for months! Yet, they don't seem to be in any MD or DC stores at all. When is Cingular going to stock these phones in the Mid-Atlantic region so we can finally have something cool-looking? Is phonescoop.com the only source of this info?

07-06-2003, 10:34 AM	#2
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PADutchman Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 260 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	When are the new Cingular phones coming to the MD/DC area? Goodman R - Cingulars SuperHome GSM plan for my area shows it covering Baltimore and surrounding areas - if I were a GSM cust., using that as a reference, and later found that there was no GSM ntwk there, I'd be pretty PO'd - Iused it here in my area (York, PA.) Much smaller metro area, and it actually worked rather well - just alot of holes right now, and the GSM hard handoff / call drop is tuff to accept. Cingular's had the GSM phones in my market for over 3 months......I'd think Baltimore would have been covered first. __________________ VZN / fGTE Ntwk Tech.

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PADutchman Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 260 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	When are the new Cingular phones coming to the MD/DC area? Thats interesting. So by that definition then, Cingular must of had at least some of their GSM online in my area I know at times the phone was on ATT as well. It was really quite odd, and you could literally see day to day that the network is being arranged. One day, I'd be at a place and it would say Cing Extend (ATT) and the next, simply Cingular. I'm still confused as to whether they are using T mobile here In some ways I miss the phone,......the call quality was superior. It would be thoroughly suitable for landline replacement. __________________ VZN / fGTE Ntwk Tech.

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GoodmanR Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New York, NY Posts: 3,140 Phone(s): Moto v3 Razr, Blackberry 7230 Provider(s): Cingular (Voice) + T-Mobile (Blackberry) Devices: Crackberry Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	When are the new Cingular phones coming to the MD/DC area? Cingular has no GSM coverage in the area, although GSM national plans can operate on ATT and I think T-mobile. If they are upgrading, I doubt it will be complete soon. Like bobolito said, Cingular can provide GSM customers from other markets service in the area, but cannot sell GSM service, and does not operate a local GSM network, therefor you cant have a cingular GSM phone if you live in dc/md/nova __________________ New Job = New Phone

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