Verizon Buys More 1900Mhz NY/NJ Spectrum!

[MeatChicken]

Verizon has Just Purchased another 10Mhz block of 1900Mhz PCS Spectrum for the NYC/LI/NJ Market. Details below.
As mentioned in another thread, VZW is currently installing a 1900Mhz PCS overlay in this area....

"..BEDMINSTER, N.J., July 8 /PRNewswire/ -- Verizon Wireless announced that it
has won the spectrum license for the New York metropolitan area auctioned by
NextWave Telecom Inc. today. Under the terms of the purchase agreement,
Verizon Wireless will pay $930 million for the license.
The 10 MHz license is in the 1.9 GHz PCS frequency range and covers a
population of 20.1 million people for the New York, New York Basic Trading
Area ("BTA"). The BTA covers New York City and northern and central New
Jersey, as well as Westchester and Rockland counties. The license will be
used to expand Verizon Wireless' network capacity to meet customers' growing
demand for voice and data services."

[jones]

cool..
Coverage is not everything if you don't have enough Bandwidth.

Try using it in the Malls on Weekends or Nights, you'll see.

[Stupiud]

Originally Posted by jones

cool..
Coverage is not everything if you don't have enough Bandwidth.

Try using it in the Malls on Weekends or Nights, you'll see.

yea. also try during rush hrs....

thank god for this. no more 'all circuts are busy, please try you call again later" BS.

[NYCDru]

All I go to say is, Times Square.

[coalminer]

I dont think that the all circuts are busy recording is because of the airwaves reaching capacity, I think that is from the link from the towers to the landlines are full.

I know here in Cleveland, forget about using a Verizon phone to try to win something from a radio contest, you allways get that recording.

With all of the PCS spectrum that Verizon has, I wonder if they will ever use it??????

[MeatChicken]

Originally Posted by coalminer

I dont think that the all circuts are busy recording is because of the airwaves reaching capacity, I think that is from the link from the towers to the landlines are full.

I know here in Cleveland, forget about using a Verizon phone to try to win something from a radio contest, you allways get that recording.

With all of the PCS spectrum that Verizon has, I wonder if they will ever use it??????

Getting an "all circuits busy message is common during a radio contest or similar, you'll even get that from a landline phone, & it's usually due to the sheer volume of calls trying to connect to 1 number.
If there weren't enough spectrum/ switches or capacity at a cell site, you would not be able to even connect to the system to get that "message".....

[RichXKU]

Originally Posted by coalminer

With all of the PCS spectrum that Verizon has, I wonder if they will ever use it??????

They better. They are required to build out their licensed spectrum in a certain period of time. I know they have owned PCS spectrum in the Philadelphia market (BTA346 - Philadelphia, PA-Wilmington, DE-Trenton, NJ) for a LONG time with no activity.
10 MHz, "E" Block PCS, since 1997 to be exact. First buildout deadline was June 2002.

Dates
Grant 06/27/1997, Expiration 06/27/2007, Effective 08/27/2003,
Buildout Deadlines: 1st 06/27/2002

Not sure whats going on there.

[Stupiud]

Originally Posted by coalminer

I dont think that the all circuts are busy recording is because of the airwaves reaching capacity, I think that is from the link from the towers to the landlines are full.

I know here in Cleveland, forget about using a Verizon phone to try to win something from a radio contest, you allways get that recording.

With all of the PCS spectrum that Verizon has, I wonder if they will ever use it??????

well, actually i get it when im calling another vzw phone... i dont get it when i call a landline immediately after..... and then id get the message again if i tried to call the other person's cell phone.....

[TKR]

Could VZW be buying all this spectrum just to try and tie it up from (or lease it to) other carriers?

Originally Posted by RichXKU

They better. They are required to build out their licensed spectrum in a certain period of time. I know they have owned PCS spectrum in the Philadelphia market (BTA346 - Philadelphia, PA-Wilmington, DE-Trenton, NJ) for a LONG time with no activity.
10 MHz, "E" Block PCS, since 1997 to be exact. First buildout deadline was June 2002.

Dates
Grant 06/27/1997, Expiration 06/27/2007, Effective 08/27/2003,
Buildout Deadlines: 1st 06/27/2002

Not sure whats going on there.

[MeatChicken]

Originally Posted by TKR

Could VZW be buying all this spectrum just to try and tie it up from (or lease it to) other carriers?

Doesn't seem so.
The NY/NJ Spectrum is being installed as we speak, & Posts from people in Litchfield County CT, Washington DC & other areas seem to indicate that VZW is full steam ahead deploying their 1900Mhz in those areas.
I would guess that a year from now, the list will be larger & will keep growing. EV-DO data capability will also push this issue.
Some areas where VZW holds a block of 1900Mhz, but already has an 800 system, may get the PCS freqs active "at the last possible moment" (Trenton/Philly??), because the existing system is fine, & they need, as all national carriers do, to spend their time, money & resources where the need is greatest.

[RichXKU]

I just pulled an interesting experiment on my VX4400. I set the mode to "PCS Only" and watched the phone start to scan, it stalled for a second on Sprint (as usual) and kept going, a few minutes later it went into power save mode.

I tried it again, this time connected to the mag-mount antenna I have up in my attic (good for a few dB). it scanned around then *bee-beep* went to cellular B block despite being in PCS only mode. I'm thinking VZW pulled a "Nextwave Telecom" and set up a few PCS transmitters on very low power just to have something running. When my phone in PCS-only mode encountered one, it told the phone to switch immediately to the 850 block.

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by RichXKU

I just pulled an interesting experiment on my VX4400. I set the mode to "PCS Only" and watched the phone start to scan, it stalled for a second on Sprint (as usual) and kept going, a few minutes later it went into power save mode.

I tried it again, this time connected to the mag-mount antenna I have up in my attic (good for a few dB). it scanned around then *bee-beep* went to cellular B block despite being in PCS only mode. I'm thinking VZW pulled a "Nextwave Telecom" and set up a few PCS transmitters on very low power just to have something running. When my phone in PCS-only mode encountered one, it told the phone to switch immediately to the 850 block.

They might not be using it as a Control channel though? I believe you could do that. But I would guess you need to use it as a control channel to put out the FCC call sign.

But I like the qwest spectrum and the Nextwave spectrum. Now just pickup the FCC spectrum and things are looking up.

[jones]

Originally Posted by Stupiud

well, actually i get it when im calling another vzw phone... i dont get it when i call a landline immediately after..... and then id get the message again if i tried to call the other person's cell phone.....

There are also call quality issues which you can't deny like echoes, missed calls where your does'nt ring even if it has signal bars.