Cingular or Verizon in Westchester, NY

[nasha2200]

Hey guys...i have been looking at this forums for a long time....and now i need some help.. I have Tmobile right now and am using it in the lower westchester area and bronx/manhattan...and i find it really acceptable in term of coverage...BUT..recently i have been finding myself traveling to upstate Westchester alot...and service up there is there, but its spotty...limited to main roads and shopping centers....

can anyone who frequents westchester tell me if i should go with cingular or Verizon?

By the way...i am leaning towards Cingular since i LOVE GSM, but i am not sure about the coverage of Cingular in those areas....

thanks

[jones]

It will have bigger coverage
try their 30 day trial period and see for yourself.

[Jerro]

Hey guys...i have been looking at this forums for a long time....and now i need some help.. I have Tmobile right now and am using it in the lower westchester area and bronx/manhattan...and i find it really acceptable in term of coverage...BUT..recently i have been finding myself traveling to upstate Westchester alot...and service up there is there, but its spotty...limited to main roads and shopping centers....

can anyone who frequents westchester tell me if i should go with cingular or Verizon?

By the way...i am leaning towards Cingular since i LOVE GSM, but i am not sure about the coverage of Cingular in those areas....

thanks

Why not just ask the people you know or meet in the area?

also: Why do you "love GSM"? Have your tried CDMA etc.

[jones]

I have both at the same time for years.
CDMA should do something about it's
"TIME TO RING",
People think they are not connecting
because the time to ring
is taking too much time.
Cingular coverage has improve
That i will Now say they are the
COVERAGE KING, there are now more areas
where their signal is just stronger.

[macsesso]

I have both at the same time for years.
CDMA should do something about it's
"TIME TO RING",
People think they are not connecting
because the time to ring
is taking too much time.
Cingular coverage has improve
That i will Now say they are the
COVERAGE KING, there are now more areas
where their signal is just stronger.

On what facts do you base this unclear statement?

[Andy]

I have both at the same time for years.
CDMA should do something about it's
"TIME TO RING",
People think they are not connecting
because the time to ring
is taking too much time.
Cingular coverage has improve
That i will Now say they are the
COVERAGE KING, there are now more areas
where their signal is just stronger.

Actually I have not had problems on Verizon CDMA with the TIME TO RING problem. My phone rings right after the caller hears the first ring, and this is on frequent travels throughout the Western U.S.

Cingular GSM in my area, for example, takes between 5 and 20 seconds for the caller to hear the first ring, and if you're lucky the actual phone starts ringing during/after the second ring the caller hears, and this is a GSM network.

You can't generalize like this just because you are a Cingular fan. Sorry, it doesn't fly.

http://forums.wirelessadvisor.com/sh...ad.php?t=11181 (Cingular is messed up here)

[bobolito]

Actually, when you call a CDMA phone you usually hear the first ring much faster than you would if you called a GSM phone because the rings the caller hears when calling a CDMA user are "fake". In other words, the caller hears the rings whether or not the CDMA phone is actually ringing. The real first ring on the CDMA phone itself happens later. On GSM, when the caller hears the first ring, that's the first ring in the phone too. So, if there is a delay for the phone to start ringing, there will also be a delay in the earpiece of the caller to hear the first ring. This can confuse some users because all they hear is dead air in the meantime. However, CDMA operators "fill-in" this dead time with "fake" rings.

[Andy]

Actually, when you call a CDMA phone you usually hear the first ring much faster than you would if you called a GSM phone because the rings the caller hears when calling a CDMA user are "fake". In other words, the caller hears the rings whether or not the CDMA phone is actually ringing. The real first ring on the CDMA phone itself happens later. On GSM, when the caller hears the first ring, that's the first ring in the phone too. So, if there is a delay for the phone to start ringing, there will also be a delay in the earpiece of the caller to hear the first ring. This can confuse some users because all they hear is dead air in the meantime. However, CDMA operators "fill-in" this dead time with "fake" rings.

Well I don't mind the caller hearing a ring, then right when the ring is completed my phone starting to ring. This is how Verizon CDMA is everywhere I've been to.
GSM is usually different, but, as I pointed out, not always. There are exceptions to both rules, just like CDMA can 'ring' but the handset doesn't ring whatsoever. But in my area, this is not a problem with Verizon, but a huge problem for Cingular, and I thought GSM doesn't have 'fake' rings.

[jones]

On what facts do you base this unclear statement?

When a CDMA phone makes calls,
the time it takes to hear that ring back tone
is taking too much time.

This is what I meant.
I know LARRY Has the Answer,
NOT BS DENIALS.
DENIALS Does not explain WHY.

[Andy]

When a CDMA phone makes calls,
the time it takes to hear that ring back tone
is taking too much time.

What are you talking about?

[jones]

When a CDMA phone makes calls,
the time it takes to hear that ring back tone
is taking too much time.

[Jerro]

The ring time has a BIG variable. The first time that a CDMA phone is called that day for instance, at the same cell site area; it will usually ring on the 2nd or 3rd landline ring. THEN it will almost always ring on the 1st ring or 2nd at the latest the rest of the day or until turned off, in that area. Try it!

[Andy]

The ring time has a BIG variable. The first time that a CDMA phone is called that day for instance, at the same cell site area; it will usually ring on the 2nd or 3rd landline ring. THEN it will almost always ring on the 1st ring or 2nd at the latest the rest of the day or until turned off, in that area. Try it!

That must vary by area then. My Verizon CDMA phone rings during the first landline ring. Cingular, the GSM carrier has problems here.

[Jerro]

That must vary by area then. My Verizon CDMA phone rings during the first landline ring. Cingular, the GSM carrier has problems here.

Do you turn it off every night?

I do and then the next day when I leave I forward the office phone and IF I did not yet get a cell call, it usually rings after 2 or more land line rings. BUT if I leave it on it almost always rings on the 1st. Obviously due to tower registration. Right?

[Andy]

Sometimes I turn my phone off at night, sometimes I don't but whether I do or not doesn't make a difference in that my phone actually rings when the first ring completes or is completing for the caller.

[bobolito]

I've heard the opposite situation (though not in cell phones), where the phone starts ringing BEFORE the caller hears the first ring. It usually happens in VoIP lines. Those are the quickest phone lines I've seen in my life!