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auxmaster7 · 12-05-2002, 7:14 PM

Hi. I've been visiting this forum for a while now, and everyone seems pretty knowledgable. I just have a quick question. My service provider is Cingular, which apparently uses TDMA. I want to buy an i95cl, which uses IDEN/TDMA (I think...is IDEN for the direct connect?) Anyways, I was just wondering if I could buy the phone, unlock it, and insert a Cingular SIM card. I don't how to go about doing so or even if it is possible. If anyone knows the answer, I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks
auxmaster7

PS. If it can be done, where can I get the phone unlocked?

Z28black98 · 12-05-2002, 7:59 PM

if I am understanding right, TDMA phones (such as the phones for Cingular and TDMA) do not use sim cards. Only GSM phones use sim cards, that you replace. So no I dont think you can unlock the phone and simply pop in a sim card, cause there is no place to put a sim card in that phone. I think that is a phone that Motorola only made for Nextel. Anyone else want to add?

hope that helps

Z28black98 · 12-05-2002, 7:59 PM

Sorry on that last post, phones for Cingular and AT&T, not TDMA....my bad

auxmaster7 · 12-05-2002, 8:37 PM

I forgot to add that Cingular also has a GSM network. Whether that's only in some parts of the country or not, I'm not sure. So...is it possible then?

TwiNkLe · 12-06-2002, 12:35 PM

auxmaster7...

i agree with Z28black98. i don't believe you can just use your sim card into a i95cl phone if it uses TDMA because TDMA does not use sim cards. i think you might have either CDMA or GSM not TDMA. i had pac bell (cingular) back in the day and i believe just like most companies if you were to switch phones it would have to be specifically meant for cingular only. or at least phones that use sim cards. i'm not sure though.

TwiNkLe · 12-06-2002, 12:40 PM

auxmaster7...i forgot to read your last post. is your phone gsm? then i'm pretty sure like i said in my last post that you won't be able to use your sim card with an i95cl phone unless there is one available specifically for cingular or something. basically what i said in my previous post

Z28black98 · 12-06-2002, 11:43 PM

The phone still probably wont work, because the phone you are talking about is for inet/TDMA, therefore would not work on the Cingular GSM network. Also, it wont have a SIM Card, because its TDMA, and they dont have Sim Cards, so the phone and the system are incompatible whichever way you look at it.

Hope that helps

ZaphodB · 12-07-2002, 11:02 AM

The brief answer is that you can only use it on Nextel.

Here is the scoop.

The i95cl is a Nextel-branded iDEN/TDMA phone. iDEN is a kind of TDMA. The phone can only be used with Nextel, and (with some luck) on Telus Mike in Canada. I don't know for certain that there are other iDEN providers in the world.

Now, here is the rundown:

AT&T run both a TDMA network and a GSM network nationwide.
Cingular run GSM networks in CA, NV, WA, ID, NYC, NC, SC, and eastern TN. They run TDMA elsewhere and are in the process of converting to GSM.
T-Mobile run a GSM network nationwide.

GSM phones take SIM cards. No other phone - TDMA, CDMA, analog - takes a SIM card.

You won't be able to use a GSM SIM in that phone anyway, because almost all the GSM in this country is in the 1900MHz (PCS) band and the i95cl operates in the 800MHz (cellular) band.

Sorry.

rallykid · 12-07-2002, 12:39 PM

Actually most of the new Nextels do use sim cards, not sure about the i95 though.

ZaphodB · 12-08-2002, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by: rallykid
Actually most of the new Nextels <STRONG><EM>do </EM></STRONG>use sim cards, not sure about the i95 though.

Not the same type of SIM cards. You can't unlock a Nextel phone and use a GSM SIM card in it, and in any case you'd be pooch-screwed anyway because GSM is almost always 1900MHz in this coutry, and Nextel phones are 800MHz.

rallykid · 12-08-2002, 2:52 PM

Correct - I had failed to mention that is not a GSM card, my bad [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif[/img]

ElGatillo · 12-08-2002, 4:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by: auxmaster7
I forgot to add that Cingular also has a GSM network. Whether that's only in some parts of the country or not, I'm not sure. So...is it possible then?

It does depend on the area. Just like Verizon is CDMA in some parts and PCS in some areas also. This is due to all the consolidation of providers.

12-05-2002, 7:14 PM	#1
auxmaster7 I have arrived! Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	confused???? Hi. I've been visiting this forum for a while now, and everyone seems pretty knowledgable. I just have a quick question. My service provider is Cingular, which apparently uses TDMA. I want to buy an i95cl, which uses IDEN/TDMA (I think...is IDEN for the direct connect?) Anyways, I was just wondering if I could buy the phone, unlock it, and insert a Cingular SIM card. I don't how to go about doing so or even if it is possible. If anyone knows the answer, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks auxmaster7 PS. If it can be done, where can I get the phone unlocked?

12-05-2002, 7:59 PM	#2
Z28black98 Fresh Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 23 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	confused???? if I am understanding right, TDMA phones (such as the phones for Cingular and TDMA) do not use sim cards. Only GSM phones use sim cards, that you replace. So no I dont think you can unlock the phone and simply pop in a sim card, cause there is no place to put a sim card in that phone. I think that is a phone that Motorola only made for Nextel. Anyone else want to add? hope that helps

12-05-2002, 7:59 PM	#3
Z28black98 Fresh Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 23 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	confused???? Sorry on that last post, phones for Cingular and AT&T, not TDMA....my bad

12-05-2002, 8:37 PM	Original Poster #4
auxmaster7 I have arrived! Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	confused???? I forgot to add that Cingular also has a GSM network. Whether that's only in some parts of the country or not, I'm not sure. So...is it possible then?

12-06-2002, 12:35 PM	#5
TwiNkLe Fresh Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 45 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	confused???? auxmaster7... i agree with Z28black98. i don't believe you can just use your sim card into a i95cl phone if it uses TDMA because TDMA does not use sim cards. i think you might have either CDMA or GSM not TDMA. i had pac bell (cingular) back in the day and i believe just like most companies if you were to switch phones it would have to be specifically meant for cingular only. or at least phones that use sim cards. i'm not sure though.

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12-06-2002, 12:40 PM	#6
TwiNkLe Fresh Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 45 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	confused???? auxmaster7...i forgot to read your last post. is your phone gsm? then i'm pretty sure like i said in my last post that you won't be able to use your sim card with an i95cl phone unless there is one available specifically for cingular or something. basically what i said in my previous post

12-06-2002, 11:43 PM	#7
Z28black98 Fresh Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 23 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	confused???? The phone still probably wont work, because the phone you are talking about is for inet/TDMA, therefore would not work on the Cingular GSM network. Also, it wont have a SIM Card, because its TDMA, and they dont have Sim Cards, so the phone and the system are incompatible whichever way you look at it. Hope that helps

12-07-2002, 11:02 AM	#8
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