V710/Bluetooth Compat. with Bluetooth PDAs?

[lurchsjn]

This may have to wait until the supposed September firmware upgrade, but anyone get their V710 to interface with their PDA? I'm looking at getting a Palm Zire 72, but want to make sure it'll talk with my V710.

Thanks.

[johnwun]

I'd like to do the same with my iPaq, I was really disappointed that they couldn't talk. As far as I know we have to wait and pray the firmware upgrade addresses it. It seems like this phone's BT is almost intentionally broken though, so I'm not holding my breath...

I spoke with a rep today who said the next Phone tools upgrade wasnt due until November.

[lurchsjn]

Well, PalmOne's trade-in deal ends in a few days, so had to go for it. Like you said, hopefully the September firmware upgrade will get it to talk with PDAs.

[npitlor]

Originally Posted by johnwun

I'd like to do the same with my iPaq, I was really disappointed that they couldn't talk.

What do you mean? I have an Ipaq 4150, and use it all the time with my 710.

It's GREAT to know that you have internet access anywhere. I just pull out my Pocket PC and connect without even touching my phone. I also use the IPaq to dial numbers from my contact list.

[cahoonka]

Originally Posted by lurchsjn

This may have to wait until the supposed September firmware upgrade, but anyone get their V710 to interface with their PDA? I'm looking at getting a Palm Zire 72, but want to make sure it'll talk with my V710.

Thanks.

hi, yes, i've successfully downloaded a web browser program to my palm and use my v710 as a modem to surf the web. (i have a tungsten t and the software was web pro.) it would be good to research palm friendly sites that have minimal pics and shrink their textual info to fit a palm screen view. you don't have to have a special data plan with verizon....the surfing just comes off your minutes but i just wait until after 9pm most times.

[lurchsjn]

Originally Posted by cahoonka

hi, yes, i've successfully downloaded a web browser program to my palm and use my v710 as a modem to surf the web. (i have a tungsten t and the software was web pro.) it would be good to research palm friendly sites that have minimal pics and shrink their textual info to fit a palm screen view. you don't have to have a special data plan with verizon....the surfing just comes off your minutes but i just wait until after 9pm most times.

That's great! Thanks!

[johnwun]

Hmmm, I have an iPaq H3800, but neither device sees the other.

Did you do any special configuration to get them to recognize each other, or did they just magically appear when you turned on the BT???

Any help would be loudly applauded...

[johnwun]

OK, I got them to find each other, but the only action available is to use the V710 as a modem for the ipaq. Any idea how to get it to share data too?

I also use the IPaq to dial numbers from my contact list.

How'd you manage that???

[lurchsjn]

Got my Zire 72, but no luck. There's not a V710 option when setting up the phone link. Tried other models, got one to connect but not dial out. Maybe they'll have an upgrade soon.

[velezr]

Originally Posted by johnwun

OK, I got them to find each other, but the only action available is to use the V710 as a modem for the ipaq. Any idea how to get it to share data too?



How'd you manage that???

DEAR NPITLOR AND JOHNWUN,

I ALSO HAVE A 3800 IPAQ, I WAS ABLE TO MADE MY IPAQ TO FIND OTHER BLUETOOTH PHONE BUT LIKE JOHNWUN SAID "BUT THE ONLY ACTION AVAILABLE IS TO USE IT AS A MODEM FOR THE IPAQ".

IT MAY BE THE POCKET PC VERSION...
WHAT VERSION OF POCKET PC DO YOU HAVE 2002 OR 2003?

IF NOT, JOHNWUN: CAN U GIVE US MORE DETAILS HOW DID YOU GOT TO TRASFER FILES OR DIALING FROM YOUR IPAQ?

[johnwun]

I'm on PPC version 3.0.11171 (doesn't say 2002 or 2003 anywhere I can find)

I was quoting Npitlor about the dialing... I too would like to know...

I'm looking forward to getting a TF card so I can transfer files between the two... Unfortunaltely I haven't found anyone who could do that with BT...

[velezr]

Originally Posted by johnwun

I'm on PPC version 3.0.11171 (doesn't say 2002 or 2003 anywhere I can find)

I was quoting Npitlor about the dialing... I too would like to know...

I'm looking forward to getting a TF card so I can transfer files between the two... Unfortunaltely I haven't found anyone who could do that with BT...

WE HAVE THE SAME VERSION 3.0.11171. IT'S PPC 2002 VER. 3.0.11171. I'M GUESSING THAT NPITLOR HAS PPC 2003. IF NOT I'LL LIKE TO KNOW HOW HE DIALS FROM THE PDA OR TRANSFER FILES. MOST OF THE FORUMS I CHECKED THEY SAID THE V710 DOESN'T HAVE THE CAPABILITIES OF TRANSFERING FILES OR DIALING USING BLUETOOTH.

[johnwun]

Still, with all the bad press about the OBEXless BT, it was a nice surprise to see them find eachother...

Even if I CAN only use the v710 as a modem...

[johnwun]

OK, I tried this #777 thing at howard forums
And I got them to see eachother, and beep but the phone says "dialing 9,011,0,#777

and never seems to connect... What do I have wrong?

OK< I followed npitlor's advice, and deleted everything but the "g"'s from the settings>connections>dialing location>dialing patterns

but.. I still get the connect/disconnect problem... it's faster this time so now I think it's actually connecting correctly, but it's rejecting the password or something... What did you use for your password npitlor? is it your phone's security password, your vzwpix password, your verizon-online password, or what???

Also, do you put yournumber@vzw3g.com or do you just put your number in, and vzw3g.com as the domain?

Also, how do you keep from having to retype your login and password each time?

-almost there...

[velezr]

Originally Posted by johnwun

OK, I tried this #777 thing at howard forums
And I got them to see eachother, and beep but the phone says "dialing 9,011,0,#777

and never seems to connect... What do I have wrong?

OK< I followed npitlor's advice, and deleted everything but the "g"'s from the settings>connections>dialing location>dialing patterns

but.. I still get the connect/disconnect problem... it's faster this time so now I think it's actually connecting correctly, but it's rejecting the password or something... What did you use for your password npitlor? is it your phone's security password, your vzwpix password, your verizon-online password, or what???

Also, do you put yournumber@vzw3g.com or do you just put your number in, and vzw3g.com as the domain?

Also, how do you keep from having to retype your login and password each time?

-almost there...

JOHNWUN,

DID NPITOLR TOLD U HOW TO DIAL FROM YOUR PDA?

NPITOLR,

IT WILL BE NICE IF YOU CAN POST THE COMMENTS TO JOHNWUN AT THIS THREAT SO WE COULD ALL BENEFIT FROM IT. THANKS

[johnwun]

No, I havent talked to him, I just read a post on howardforums... here The only "dialing" i did was to enter in the data into connections, and then click the "connect" button, which effectively dials the #777 number...
Unfortunately, I can't get any farther...

[johnwun]

Does anybody know where #777 actually goes? Why does it need a password, and where does the password come from?

here's what I'm seeing/using...

username: mynumber@vzw3g.com
password: ?????
domain: blank?

anyone???

[johnwun]

got it... it's "vzw" now it works good!!!! Yaaay!

[oxjox]

Ok, I think I'm lost - how are we getting the V710 to work with a Palm via Bluetooth?

[oxjox]

I think I found it Followed around some of the posts on here and Howard and came up with the following settings.

Network
Service: (Your Name Here)
Username: (Your 10 Digit Number)@vzw3g.com
Password: vzw
Connect: (Your Phone Name)
Phone: #777

Connection
Name: VZ Phone Online
Connect to: Phone
Via: Bluetooth
Device: VZ Phone
Model: Nokia3650

Details
Speed: 19,200
Init String (default): E0X5&D2&C1&S0+CMEE=1;+CSCS="GSM";+CMGF=0;+CNMI=2,1 ,2,2,1;V1

Thats about all I had to do and I was on! Seemed just as fast as the bluetooth connection to my G5 too! This does not seem to have anything to do with or help with getting the dialer or sms to work though

[velezr]

In Some Places I See The Baud Rate Speed Setup To 19,200 And In Others To 115,200. Which One Is It?

[lurchsjn]

Originally Posted by oxjox

Ok, I think I'm lost - how are we getting the V710 to work with a Palm via Bluetooth?

You're not lost. Appears to be some work-arounds with several models of the PocketPC, but no luck with the Palms, in particular, the Zire 72. The Phone setup program that gets installed on the CD that comes with the Zire polls the Internet every time you run it to look for new phone models. So far, nothing for the Motorola V710. I've tried other models, got one to connect up via Bluetooth, but could perform any functionality on the phone.

[brianh4321]

You can set the modem speed, using the pocketpc select the following:

Start Menu
Settings
connection
connection again
manage existing connections
(select the dial-up connection)
edit
next
next again
Advanced...
Baud Rate (put it as high as you can and it should auto-select)
ok
then finished

[npitlor]

Originally Posted by velezr

JOHNWUN,

DID NPITOLR TOLD U HOW TO DIAL FROM YOUR PDA?

NPITOLR,

IT WILL BE NICE IF YOU CAN POST THE COMMENTS TO JOHNWUN AT THIS THREAT SO WE COULD ALL BENEFIT FROM IT. THANKS

Sorry about the delay... For some reason, I wasn't getting the email notification that there were posts here. I reset that.

I have an Ipaq 4150 -- Thats the WM2003 version. The "dial from contact" feature is unique to the 2003. I believe that there are some 3rd party contact manager programs for the PPC's running 2002 that add the BT function, but I'm not sure.

As far as getting the v710 to work as a modem with a PocketPC, just use the user name and password mentioned, but don;t use any dialing strings... I haven't seen any that work, yet.

To clear it up:

if your cell number is (800)-555-1212, then your user name would be 8005551212@vzw3g.com

You password would be vzw

Make sure that the PocketPC is set to NOT wait for a dial tone

Make sure that the modem is set to "Bluetooth Dialup Modem"

Again, sorry for he delay -- It shouldn't happen again!

[stonehaven]

I did the same thing as you nip, and it worked great. I have the same ipaq and I found that if the earpiece was operating, the v710 wouldn't recognize the PDA. I had to disconnect the earpiece (turn it off) then it would discover the PDA.

[npitlor]

Originally Posted by stonehaven

I did the same thing as you nip, and it worked great. I have the same ipaq and I found that if the earpiece was operating, the v710 wouldn't recognize the PDA. I had to disconnect the earpiece (turn it off) then it would discover the PDA.

Good point -- I almost always forget to mention that. It's no big secret that just about all Bluetooth devices can only connect to one other device at a time -- About the only thing I've seen that can connect to multiple devices at the same time is the Bluetooth Dongle for the computer.

[stonehaven]

I asked on another topic, but do we need Mobile2web service with Verizon to access the internet with a bluetooth PDA? I ordered it just in case, but I'm going to cancel if I don't need it!

Thanks!

[npitlor]

Originally Posted by stonehaven

I asked on another topic, but do we need Mobile2web service with Verizon to access the internet with a bluetooth PDA? I ordered it just in case, but I'm going to cancel if I don't need it!

Thanks!

No-you don't need it.

[oxjox]

Originally Posted by lurchsjn

You're not lost. Appears to be some work-arounds with several models of the PocketPC, but no luck with the Palms, in particular, the Zire 72. The Phone setup program that gets installed on the CD that comes with the Zire polls the Internet every time you run it to look for new phone models. So far, nothing for the Motorola V710. I've tried other models, got one to connect up via Bluetooth, but could perform any functionality on the phone.

Lurch, if you read my post folliowing the "I'm Lost" post, you would see that I do Have the V710 working with my Zire72. No problems with using it as a modem but I can't get the SMS messaging to work. I also changed the baud to 115,200 and it works fine - no noticeable speed improvement.

[lurchsjn]

Originally Posted by oxjox

Lurch, if you read my post folliowing the "I'm Lost" post, you would see that I do Have the V710 working with my Zire72. No problems with using it as a modem but I can't get the SMS messaging to work. I also changed the baud to 115,200 and it works fine - no noticeable speed improvement.

Sorry, I missed it. Let me give that a try. Thanks for your help!