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Gamer03 · 01-29-2008, 4:46 PM

I read over on SU that there is an "unofficial" ROM update out that enables GPS and Rev. A on Sprint Mogul's. I downloaded the update and installed it with no problems. The menus and overall speed of the Mogul seems faster. Internet pages also seem to load faster (I won't know for sure until I perform some speed tests within the next few days).

I will also be testing out GPS on the way to school this evening to see if it works (via Google Maps). One of the nice features is that there is a "X" button on the top right corner of the screen that allows you to exit out of programs and show the available system memory percentage left. I will also be testing out bluetooth to see if it is better.

Here is the link:

http://www.leetbaka.com/su/MOGUL_3_16_BETA.exe

username: sprintusers
password: gosprintspeed

Another link:

RUU_TITAN_SPRINT_WWE_3_1_.16.651.0_435009_RS3_27_0 0_SPCS_NV124.zip (Be sure that it is a .exe. file after downloading but before running the program....if not right click and rename to .exe)

NOTE: As noted on SU, please do this at your OWN risk. Also, follow all of the instructions. It seems that the people that are having the most problems have a custom loaded ROM on their Moguls. If you have the stock ROM, you should be fine.

Jay2TheRescue · 01-29-2008, 6:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gamer03

I read over on SU that there is an "unofficial" ROM update out that enables GPS and Rev. A on Sprint Mogul's. I downloaded the update and installed it with no problems. The menus and overall speed of the Mogul seems faster. Internet pages also seem to load faster (I won't know for sure until I perform some speed tests within the next few days).

I will also be testing out GPS on the way to school this evening to see if it works (via Google Maps). One of the nice features is that there is a "X" button on the top right corner of the screen that allows you to exit out of programs and show the available system memory percentage left. I will also be testing out bluetooth to see if it is better.

Here is the link:

http://www.leetbaka.com/su/MOGUL_3_16_BETA.exe

username: sprintusers
password: gosprintspeed

Another link:

RUU_TITAN_SPRINT_WWE_3_1_.16.651.0_435009_RS3_27_0 0_SPCS_NV124.zip (Be sure that it is a .exe. file after downloading but before running the program....if not right click and rename to .exe)

NOTE: As noted on SU, please do this at your OWN risk. Also, follow all of the instructions. It seems that the people that are having the most problems have a custom loaded ROM on their Moguls. If you have the stock ROM, you should be fine.

I was playing with google maps on my Tilt today. The cool thing to do is set it to satellite view and then select "Use GPS" from the menu. Your location is a flashing blue dot in the center of the screen, and it downloads and scrolls the images as you move.

-Jay

Gamer03 · 01-30-2008, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay2TheRescue

I was playing with google maps on my Tilt today. The cool thing to do is set it to satellite view and then select "Use GPS" from the menu. Your location is a flashing blue dot in the center of the screen, and it downloads and scrolls the images as you move.

-Jay

I will have to try that. The only problem I ran into with Track Location On in Google Maps is that everytime the map loads and moves to a new position when I am driving, I have to manually hit ok to "reload" the map. I will have to see if there is a work around for this.

Jay2TheRescue · 01-30-2008, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gamer03

I will have to try that. The only problem I ran into with Track Location On in Google Maps is that everytime the map loads and moves to a new position when I am driving, I have to manually hit ok to "reload" the map. I will have to see if there is a work around for this.

Once in a while the map stops scrolling on me. I select menu, uncheck "Use GPS", then select menu, and recheck "Use GPS". This always fixes it for me.

-Jay

Gamer03 · 01-31-2008, 2:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay2TheRescue

Once in a while the map stops scrolling on me. I select menu, uncheck "Use GPS", then select menu, and recheck "Use GPS". This always fixes it for me.

-Jay

Thanks for the tip, Jay. I will have to try that and see if it works.

Gamer03 · 01-31-2008, 2:18 PM

Well so far, I like the update. My device seems faster, the bluetooth has improved (I now have higher volume on my Garmin Nuvi 660), and IE pages seem to load faster. Overall, I like this unofficial update and once the update becomes official, I will load it on my Mogul.

mrarjr · 01-31-2008, 6:13 PM

i tried doin the rom update but it gets stuck at 11% then it stops saying ERROR code e-90 or somethin like that stating "Invalid Command". i looked in the view readme instructions and error troubleshooting and i found no solution or even the error code i was getting. also notice right after it stops updating the screen goes all grey in the middle of the screen you see for a split second "no image file" then it goes to the red, green, white bars making me reinstall the newest official rom update the 2.17...just to get it functioning again...was wondering if you had some tips.

you also said that it may not work with a custom rom but i've restored everything to original software and rom...so i'm not thinking that is the issue.

also read in the ppcgeeks forum that you may need to download a relocker or something like that?...anyways i would greatly appreciate it if you guys helped me get this workin cause i'm dying to get test out the gps on my mogul.

mrarjr · 01-31-2008, 6:18 PM

just tried doin it again and the error code is "error code [290]"

in the view readme a troubleshoot solution is no where to be found

Gamer03 · 01-31-2008, 6:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrarjr

just tried doin it again and the error code is "error code [290]"

in the view readme a troubleshoot solution is no where to be found

Well I didn't have that problem when I installed the program. I would try to do a hard reset on the device prior to hooking it up to your computer and make sure that your phone is connected to ActiveSync when you are performing the update and also make sure that your computer doesn't go to sleep when you are performing the update. Also, I have a Windows XP laptop. What OS do you have on your desktop? Make sure that you don't have any other programs running on your computer at the time of the install.

Another tip is to make sure that you follow every step prior to hooking up your Mogul via USB. Other than that, if it still doesn't work, I would downgrade to the latest ROM and then wait until it officially comes out.

mrarjr · 01-31-2008, 6:43 PM

alright...well i have xp aswell...i thought i was doin everything as instructed to but i guess not. i'm going to try 1 last time and i'll keep ya posted...if it doesnt work i'll just wait. thanx man!

Yankees368 · 01-31-2008, 7:14 PM

Follow these directions:
How To: Add GPS to HTC Mogul - XV6800 - P4000 - Titan | PhoneNews.com

Gamer03 · 02-01-2008, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrarjr

alright...well i have xp aswell...i thought i was doin everything as instructed to but i guess not. i'm going to try 1 last time and i'll keep ya posted...if it doesnt work i'll just wait. thanx man!

That's interesting. Anyway, I would follow the steps that Yankees said to in the link. And if that doesn't work, then I would just wait until it becomes official.

mrarjr · 02-01-2008, 7:52 PM

i did the one yankees told me to do and it froze my phone on the htc logo...took it to sprint and got a brand spankin new one out the box with the original 2.09 rom so i'm hopin now the beta rom update should work...correct?

mrarjr · 02-01-2008, 8:55 PM

just did the rom update and everythin is workin flawless...thanx everyone!

AJE · 02-02-2008, 5:30 PM

Thanks for the post Gamer. I will try this out tonight. Hopefully it will resolve my bluetooth issues I have been having with the 17 version.

RJB · 02-02-2008, 8:39 PM

Erik I am glad that this finally came for you.

AJE · 02-02-2008, 9:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gamer03

That's interesting. Anyway, I would follow the steps that Yankees said to in the link. And if that doesn't work, then I would just wait until it becomes official.

Erik,
Does the update you posted enable GPS, or do I need to follow the instructions Yankees posted to get the GPS working? Also, is google maps an app I have to load on the Mogul? I have succesfully updated to the newer ROM so we will see how it goes.

Gamer03 · 02-03-2008, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AJE

Thanks for the post Gamer. I will try this out tonight. Hopefully it will resolve my bluetooth issues I have been having with the 17 version.

Your welcome AJE. The bluetooth seems better to me.

Gamer03 · 02-03-2008, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RJB

Erik I am glad that this finally came for you.

I too am glad Ryan. Once it becomes "official", I will most likely update my device since the startup screen shows "TEST ONLY."

Gamer03 · 02-03-2008, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AJE

Erik,
Does the update you posted enable GPS, or do I need to follow the instructions Yankees posted to get the GPS working? Also, is google maps an app I have to load on the Mogul? I have succesfully updated to the newer ROM so we will see how it goes.

I got GPS to work by simply installing the new update. I also installed Google Maps on the device and NOT on the storage card (I don't know if it makes a difference). The only downside to the GPS is that you have to be pretty much outside for it to track your location. Other than that, the update so far seems to improved my device.

Gamer03 · 02-03-2008, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrarjr

i did the one yankees told me to do and it froze my phone on the htc logo...took it to sprint and got a brand spankin new one out the box with the original 2.09 rom so i'm hopin now the beta rom update should work...correct?

It's cool that Sprint gave you a new one.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrarjr

just did the rom update and everythin is workin flawless...thanx everyone!

Glad that you got your Mogul to update, mrarjr.

jdlockhart · 02-03-2008, 3:09 PM

Hey guys - having a prob. I have the latest update on my phone from sprint - and I'm trying to install this beta one. Well, i turn on mobile device center, get it all connected and everything (I'm using Vista btw), start the update. It goes to the normal colored screen, unsyncs for a second, reconnects to windows, and then Mobile Device center just tanks on me. (it just closes) and the update can't finish. It doesnt' erase anything, so I just restart. I tried reinstalling it on the computer but it's still not working. Anyways, I would prefer an email at jdlockhart@gmail.com if it's not too much trouble but I'll try to check back on here. THanks!!

RJB · 02-03-2008, 3:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdlockhart

Hey guys - having a prob. I have the latest update on my phone from sprint - and I'm trying to install this beta one. Well, i turn on mobile device center, get it all connected and everything (I'm using Vista btw), start the update. It goes to the normal colored screen, unsyncs for a second, reconnects to windows, and then Mobile Device center just tanks on me. (it just closes) and the update can't finish. It doesnt' erase anything, so I just restart. I tried reinstalling it on the computer but it's still not working. Anyways, I would prefer an email at jdlockhart@gmail.com if it's not too much trouble but I'll try to check back on here. THanks!!

I wouldnt put your email on a public forum unless you want a massive spam attack.

Gamer03 · 02-03-2008, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdlockhart

Hey guys - having a prob. I have the latest update on my phone from sprint - and I'm trying to install this beta one. Well, i turn on mobile device center, get it all connected and everything (I'm using Vista btw), start the update. It goes to the normal colored screen, unsyncs for a second, reconnects to windows, and then Mobile Device center just tanks on me. (it just closes) and the update can't finish. It doesnt' erase anything, so I just restart. I tried reinstalling it on the computer but it's still not working. Anyways, I would prefer an email at jdlockhart@gmail.com if it's not too much trouble but I'll try to check back on here. THanks!!

Jdlockhart,

A user on Sprint Users had this to say:

Quote:

I'm using Vista Home Premium, and here's what I did

~rename the .ex file to .exe
~right-click the file and go to Properties>Compatibility and make sure "Run this program as an administrator" is checked
~run the program as usual
~if the gets stuck on the bootloader (multicolored screen) and/or the RUU program crashes, unplug the usb cable & remove the battery. After that, reinsert the battery and start the RUU program again (it doesn't matter if the phone's still stuck in bootloader)
~do a hard reset (hold the left & right softkeys while using the stylus to press the reset button and follow the prompts) and then start over
~keep trying! it took me 5 tries before it worked for me!

It seems to me like there is a problem with Vista. Do you have a XP computer that you can run the install on?

AJE · 02-03-2008, 11:23 PM

Well so far so "Great". The update seams to have fixed the bluetooth issue I have been having. Not sure if I notice any speed increase on surfing though, but I don't get on the net much from my phone anyways. I will try out the GPS tomorrow.

Gamer03 · 02-04-2008, 4:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AJE

Well so far so "Great". The update seams to have fixed the bluetooth issue I have been having. Not sure if I notice any speed increase on surfing though, but I don't get on the net much from my phone anyways. I will try out the GPS tomorrow.

I too noticed that the BT issue has been fixed. As for the internet speeds on IE, I have noticed a slight increase but nothing noticeable. Also, the GPS is nice but I have to be outside to use it. I would rather use my Garmin Nuvi 660 since it has a SiRF StarIII receiver in it that provides coverage even inside.

WirelessBeachBum · 02-21-2008, 1:10 PM

I've been playing with the Alltel Versions, having some problems connecting to EVDO, even after using EPST to put correct data connection paramaters in....

AnthroMatt · 02-21-2008, 1:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WirelessBeachBum

I've been playing with the Alltel Versions, having some problems connecting to EVDO, even after using EPST to put correct data connection paramaters in....

I had all kinds of data connectivity issues with the leaked version of the Sprint ROM. After one weekend I went back to the previous stock ROM.

WirelessBeachBum · 02-21-2008, 1:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnthroMatt

I had all kinds of data connectivity issues with the leaked version of the Sprint ROM. After one weekend I went back to the previous stock ROM.

I've tried it twice.... i guess i'll wait for the real geeks to get it fixed... or in the unlikely event there is an official upgrade.

Yankees368 · 02-21-2008, 4:01 PM

The newest rumors are that it will be out in early march, and WILL include rev. A and GPS, but not win mo 6.1

01-29-2008, 4:46 PM	#1
Gamer03 Technology Aficionado Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: The Florida Everglades Posts: 8,563 Phone(s): HTC Touch Pro2 (me), Moto Adventure V750 (dad), Moto E815 (mom), LG Chocolate 3 (sis) Provider(s): Verizon (4 lines on a FS plan); AT&T (past) Devices: NB;GPS;Slingbox PRO;iPod 80GB;Kenwood DDX512 Thanks: 10 Thanked 13 Times in 10 Posts Images: 68	The Unofficial Sprint Mogul Rom 3.16.651.0 with GPS and Rev A Enabled I read over on SU that there is an "unofficial" ROM update out that enables GPS and Rev. A on Sprint Mogul's. I downloaded the update and installed it with no problems. The menus and overall speed of the Mogul seems faster. Internet pages also seem to load faster (I won't know for sure until I perform some speed tests within the next few days). I will also be testing out GPS on the way to school this evening to see if it works (via Google Maps). One of the nice features is that there is a "X" button on the top right corner of the screen that allows you to exit out of programs and show the available system memory percentage left. I will also be testing out bluetooth to see if it is better. Here is the link: http://www.leetbaka.com/su/MOGUL_3_16_BETA.exe username: sprintusers password: gosprintspeed Another link: RUU_TITAN_SPRINT_WWE_3_1_.16.651.0_435009_RS3_27_0 0_SPCS_NV124.zip (Be sure that it is a .exe. file after downloading but before running the program....if not right click and rename to .exe) NOTE: As noted on SU, please do this at your OWN risk. Also, follow all of the instructions. It seems that the people that are having the most problems have a custom loaded ROM on their Moguls. If you have the stock ROM, you should be fine. __________________ My Carriers: Cellular One (TDMA) [1998-1999]>>AT&T (TDMA) [1999-2001]>>Cingular (TDMA) [2001-2003]>>Sprint [2003-2005]>>Verizon Wireless [2005 to 2008]>>Sprint SERO [2006-2008]>>AT&T [2008 to present]>>Verizon Wireless INpulse [2009 to present]

01-31-2008, 2:18 PM	Original Poster #6
Gamer03 Technology Aficionado Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: The Florida Everglades Posts: 8,563 Phone(s): HTC Touch Pro2 (me), Moto Adventure V750 (dad), Moto E815 (mom), LG Chocolate 3 (sis) Provider(s): Verizon (4 lines on a FS plan); AT&T (past) Devices: NB;GPS;Slingbox PRO;iPod 80GB;Kenwood DDX512 Thanks: 10 Thanked 13 Times in 10 Posts Images: 68	Re: The Unofficial Sprint Mogul Rom 3.16.651.0 with GPS and Rev A Enabled Well so far, I like the update. My device seems faster, the bluetooth has improved (I now have higher volume on my Garmin Nuvi 660), and IE pages seem to load faster. Overall, I like this unofficial update and once the update becomes official, I will load it on my Mogul. __________________ My Carriers: Cellular One (TDMA) [1998-1999]>>AT&T (TDMA) [1999-2001]>>Cingular (TDMA) [2001-2003]>>Sprint [2003-2005]>>Verizon Wireless [2005 to 2008]>>Sprint SERO [2006-2008]>>AT&T [2008 to present]>>Verizon Wireless INpulse [2009 to present]

01-31-2008, 6:13 PM	#7
mrarjr Get me out of Newbieville! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Austin, Tx Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: The Unofficial Sprint Mogul Rom 3.16.651.0 with GPS and Rev A Enabled i tried doin the rom update but it gets stuck at 11% then it stops saying ERROR code e-90 or somethin like that stating "Invalid Command". i looked in the view readme instructions and error troubleshooting and i found no solution or even the error code i was getting. also notice right after it stops updating the screen goes all grey in the middle of the screen you see for a split second "no image file" then it goes to the red, green, white bars making me reinstall the newest official rom update the 2.17...just to get it functioning again...was wondering if you had some tips. you also said that it may not work with a custom rom but i've restored everything to original software and rom...so i'm not thinking that is the issue. also read in the ppcgeeks forum that you may need to download a relocker or something like that?...anyways i would greatly appreciate it if you guys helped me get this workin cause i'm dying to get test out the gps on my mogul.

01-31-2008, 6:18 PM	#8
mrarjr Get me out of Newbieville! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Austin, Tx Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: The Unofficial Sprint Mogul Rom 3.16.651.0 with GPS and Rev A Enabled just tried doin it again and the error code is "error code [290]" in the view readme a troubleshoot solution is no where to be found

01-31-2008, 6:43 PM	#10
mrarjr Get me out of Newbieville! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Austin, Tx Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: The Unofficial Sprint Mogul Rom 3.16.651.0 with GPS and Rev A Enabled alright...well i have xp aswell...i thought i was doin everything as instructed to but i guess not. i'm going to try 1 last time and i'll keep ya posted...if it doesnt work i'll just wait. thanx man!

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01-31-2008, 7:14 PM	#11
Yankees368 Compulsive Signal Checker Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lansing, MI & Long Island Posts: 3,555 Phone(s): Palm Pre Provider(s): Sprint PCS (since 2002), Voicestream (2001-2002) Devices: S9 HD, 30GB iPod 5g, 2GB nano, Dell XPS M1530 Thanks: 2 Thanked 20 Times in 13 Posts Images: 624 My Auctions	Re: The Unofficial Sprint Mogul Rom 3.16.651.0 with GPS and Rev A Enabled Follow these directions: How To: Add GPS to HTC Mogul - XV6800 - P4000 - Titan \| PhoneNews.com __________________ "'Current Sprint Service Can Not Be Used' What the hell does that mean?!?" Nokia 5190 > Samsung a460 > Sanyo 6200 > Sanyo 8100 > Sanyo 8200 > Sanyo 7400 > Samsung a900 > Samsung a900m > Motorola K1m > Sanyo M1> HTC Mogul > HTC Touch Pro > Palm Pre

02-01-2008, 7:52 PM	#13
mrarjr Get me out of Newbieville! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Austin, Tx Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: The Unofficial Sprint Mogul Rom 3.16.651.0 with GPS and Rev A Enabled i did the one yankees told me to do and it froze my phone on the htc logo...took it to sprint and got a brand spankin new one out the box with the original 2.09 rom so i'm hopin now the beta rom update should work...correct?

02-01-2008, 8:55 PM	#14
mrarjr Get me out of Newbieville! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Austin, Tx Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: The Unofficial Sprint Mogul Rom 3.16.651.0 with GPS and Rev A Enabled just did the rom update and everythin is workin flawless...thanx everyone!

02-02-2008, 5:30 PM	#15
AJE Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 846 Phone(s): iPhone, HTC Touch Pro, HTC Mogul, Motorola SLVR Provider(s): AT&T Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: The Unofficial Sprint Mogul Rom 3.16.651.0 with GPS and Rev A Enabled Thanks for the post Gamer. I will try this out tonight. Hopefully it will resolve my bluetooth issues I have been having with the 17 version.

02-02-2008, 8:39 PM	#16
RJB Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,064 Provider(s): VZW, AT&T Thanks: 36 Thanked 15 Times in 15 Posts Images: 96	Re: The Unofficial Sprint Mogul Rom 3.16.651.0 with GPS and Rev A Enabled Erik I am glad that this finally came for you.

02-03-2008, 3:09 PM	#22
jdlockhart I made my first post! Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: The Unofficial Sprint Mogul Rom 3.16.651.0 with GPS and Rev A Enabled Hey guys - having a prob. I have the latest update on my phone from sprint - and I'm trying to install this beta one. Well, i turn on mobile device center, get it all connected and everything (I'm using Vista btw), start the update. It goes to the normal colored screen, unsyncs for a second, reconnects to windows, and then Mobile Device center just tanks on me. (it just closes) and the update can't finish. It doesnt' erase anything, so I just restart. I tried reinstalling it on the computer but it's still not working. Anyways, I would prefer an email at jdlockhart@gmail.com if it's not too much trouble but I'll try to check back on here. THanks!!

02-03-2008, 11:23 PM	#25
AJE Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 846 Phone(s): iPhone, HTC Touch Pro, HTC Mogul, Motorola SLVR Provider(s): AT&T Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: The Unofficial Sprint Mogul Rom 3.16.651.0 with GPS and Rev A Enabled Well so far so "Great". The update seams to have fixed the bluetooth issue I have been having. Not sure if I notice any speed increase on surfing though, but I don't get on the net much from my phone anyways. I will try out the GPS tomorrow.

02-21-2008, 1:10 PM	#27
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