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Old 12-06-2006, 5:46 PM    #1
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I got the Blackjack the first day it came out - Nov 16. At first it frustrated me quite a bit because it is not a full function PDA like my IPAQ but I slowly kept finding out all the work arounds and now it is indispensible to me both as a Phone & a PDA.


The first thing I noticed is that how good the recption and call clarity is on this phone. I have tried a few combination devices in the past year and their shortcoming was always the phone.

The following are some specifics:

What came in the box:

1. Blackjack.

2. CD with Active Sync, note pad sync and instruction manual.

3. A second battery with a case that can be used for both charging & storing the second battery.

4. Power/Charging cable.



Pros:

1. Absolutely fantastic call clarity and reception, I have only owned 2 GSM phones that even come close to it, the PEBL and the Nokia 6682.

2. The earpiece is loud, I have yet to set it above 75% even in a noisy environment.

3. The Speaker is loud and clear.

4. The screen is gorgeous, not as big as a regular PDA but crisp & bright. This is something that I was worried about coming from the gorgeous screen that the 6131 has.

5. Great form factor, it is light but not light enough to feel like a toy. The size is just right and the slimness makes it very comfortable in jeans pockets.

6. The vibrate is very loud, infact sometimes it is too loud in a quiet room.

7. Build quality is excellent.


Cons:

1. The battery drains fairly quickly if web browsing but will last through one day and having a fully charged battery on hand is great.

2. The keys are small and a little hard to get used to.

3. There is a trick to getting the battery cover off and it is not very intuitive. If I am supposed to be changing batteries everyday I would have liked it to be a little easier.

3. The flap covering the charging port and the Micro SD slot seem to be rather flimsy.


What it lacks as a phone:

1. No voice dialing - but can be taken care by getting additional software.

2. No easy way to dial a number like 1-800-SAMSUNG - can be changed with registry edit.

3. No message or data counter, no 3rd. part software seems to be available for this yet.


What it lacks as PDA

1. Only viewing for Office Documents.

2. Only viewing E-Mail attachments.

3. Does not sync Outlook Notes.

4. No way to put tasks and all meetings for the day on the home screen, only shows the upcoming meeting.

All of the above can be taken care of by using 3rd. party software some free and some for a nominal price.


What was very easy to do:

1. Blue tooth pairing with my laptop and 6131.

2. Setting up Active Sync.

3. Customize my quick list

4. Getting Cingular to send me the unlock code in 3 days.


What was difficult to do:

1. Get information from Cingular or even Samsung on how to do something on this phone.


Programs that do not work on this:

1. Google Maps.

2. Opera Mini.

Anything Java based- it will constantly keep asking for permission. You may have read SteveW's posts on this for his LG Cu500, this is a Cingular problem and not a Samsung or LG problem.

Alternates:
1. MS Virtual Earth works extremely well on this.


Overall, I would recoomend this device highly but please be aware that you are buying a top quality excellent Smartphone and not a PDAphone.

I hope to post some screenshots soon. I am sure I have left a lot out, please let me know if you have questions that you think I can answer...

Thanks Much....
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Great review Charlyee and thanks for sharing, I wish you the best of luck with your new toy.
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Fantastic review Charlyee, not to techy, or to "Engineerie"--(made up word)-

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Nice review Charylee!
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Excellent review! Here's the million dollar question: which data plan do you have (or were forced to get)?
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Excellent review! Here's the million dollar question: which data plan do you have (or were forced to get)?
This would fall under the 29.99 Smartphone Data package most likely.
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Excellent review! Here's the million dollar question: which data plan do you have (or were forced to get)?
I knew someone was going to ask that -

I actually have the $14.99 Media Bundle which is what I always had. I have 2 months unlimited data and text as a promotion and I might change it to the Media Max plan after that depending on how much I want to use it for web browsing.

I did have to forfeit the $100 rebate, the only way to get that would be to sign up for the unlimited PDA connect plan for $39.99 and then add $9.99 on top of that for 1000 messages.

Shawn, Cingular insists that this is a PDAphone and needs the PDA connect plan not the Smartphone connect.

Joe, Steve, Budney, thank you

PS: it also comes with a USB sync cable, I think that also charges. I cannot setup Active Sync with a direct connect with any WM5 device due to firewalls, I use Bluetooth instead.
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Two more items I wanted to add:

1. Voice calls seemlessly transfer when moving from 3G to E and vice versa. I have not had an opportunity to try data over 3G yet.

2. Before I figured out how to closeout applications, I have had as many as 12 open at one time while on the phone, texting, or web browsing and the BJ did not lockup. I haven't had to reboot this yet. I can actually make most everything lockup by doing too many applications at any one time. I probably soft reset my IPAQ at least 2-3 times/day and my laptop once a day...
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Here are some screen shots, please keep in mind i am a very poor photographer so please pardon the poor picture quality.

1. Home Screen.
2. Quick List
3. Messaging Screen
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Some more screen shots:

1. WA Front Page
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Nice pics Charlyee,thanks for sharing.
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Ok, Cingular doesn't know how to address SmartPhones...yet! Here are the two options that are specifically for SmartPhones:

Option A) SmartPhone Unlimited Data connect for $19.99 (no provision for text messages or MMS)

Option B) MediaNet Plan (Basic, Works, Max) for $9.99/$14.99/$19.99/$29.99

I personally have MediaMax 200 (unlimited internet, 200 text messages, 20 MMS) plan for $19.99.

You DO NOT NEED the pda connect plan for ANY of the smartphones!!!
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Ok, Cingular doesn't know how to address SmartPhones...yet! Here are the two options that are specifically for SmartPhones:

Option A) SmartPhone Unlimited Data connect for $19.99 (no provision for text messages or MMS)

Option B) MediaNet Plan (Basic, Works, Max) for $9.99/$14.99/$19.99/$29.99

I personally have MediaMax 200 (unlimited internet, 200 text messages, 20 MMS) plan for $19.99.

You DO NOT NEED the pda connect plan for ANY of the smartphones!!!
You are right ofcourse, except for one basic problem, Cingular insists that the Blackjack is a PDAPhone NOT a Smartphone.

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You are right ofcourse, except for one basic problem, Cingular insists that the Blackjack is a PDAPhone NOT a Smartphone.

Thanks Joe.
Nice review Charylee, well done.
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Ok, Cingular doesn't know how to address SmartPhones...yet! Here are the two options that are specifically for SmartPhones:

Option A) SmartPhone Unlimited Data connect for $19.99 (no provision for text messages or MMS)
Option B) MediaNet Plan (Basic, Works, Max) for $9.99/$14.99/$19.99/$29.99

I personally have MediaMax 200 (unlimited internet, 200 text messages, 20 MMS) plan for $19.99.

You DO NOT NEED the pda connect plan for ANY of the smartphones!!!
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You are right of course, except for one basic problem, Cingular insists that the Blackjack is a PDA Phone NOT a Smartphone.

Everybody agrees. This is a marketing/sales ploy by Cingular, not a technical issue. As Charlyee said below, the distinction between "PDA" and "Smart", in this case, only affects which data plan qualifies for the $100 rebate.

My guess is that its simply an attempt to charge what the market will bear. Cingular knows that most PDA phones are bought by businesses, so they want to wack them for 39.99. For individuals, who want to watch videos or listen to music, Cingular will try to push a 19.99 or 29.99 plan. Neither do I think that it's a bandwidth issue. I'd bet a dollar that a heavy video user on an unlimited MediaNet plan actually downloads more bits than a business-oriented PDA user.


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[B][COLOR="Blue"]I got the Blackjack the first day it came out - Nov 16. At first it frustrated me quite a bit because it is not a full function PDA like my IPAQ but I slowly kept finding out all the work arounds and now it is indispensible to me both as a Phone & a PDA.
Nice review and pictures, Charlyee, thanks. My questions - since this phone runs WM5, how is it that some of the PDA functions are not available? Are there different levels of WM5 functionality? If so, is there any way to know by what parts of WM5 are supported by looking at the specs?

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Everybody agrees. This is a marketing/sales ploy by Cingular, not a technical issue. As Charlyee said below, the distinction between "PDA" and "Smart", in this case, only affects which data plan qualifies for the $100 rebate.

My guess is that its simply an attempt to charge what the market will bear. Cingular knows that most PDA phones are bought by businesses, so they want to wack them for 39.99. For individuals, who want to watch videos or listen to music, Cingular will try to push a 19.99 or 29.99 plan. Neither do I think that it's a bandwidth issue. I'd bet a dollar that a heavy video user on an unlimited MediaNet plan actually downloads more bits than a business-oriented PDA user.

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Hmmm, You wouldn't be talking about me Charlyee, would you???

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Nice review and pictures, Charlyee, thanks. My questions - since this phone runs WM5, how is it that some of the PDA functions are not available? Are there different levels of WM5 functionality? If so, is there any way to know by what parts of WM5 are supported by looking at the specs?

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Thanks Steve. Hmm I guess there is WM5 and there is WM5 - lol. The two OS's are different but I don't know enough about it to explain it, specially to someone who knows way more than me about Operating Systems.

The two are going to be combined sometime during the next couple of years or so I hear.

Shawn, where are you? I could use some help here you know?

The other problem is that the Blackjack is kind of unique, it is the first Smartphone with a QWERTY KB, also it does more PDA functions out of the box than something like the 3125 and then ofcourse it is 3G. Now Samsung is coming out with it's successor, the i600 I believe that is going to have WiFi. Cingular didn't quite have a category for it so they just put where it finanacilally benefits them. Interestingly neither the store nor any CSR has ever pushed me to the PDA plan all they have said is that I better get unlimited data if I am going to surf the web, watch video and do everything else this phone is capable of doing.

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... the Blackjack is kind of unique, it is the first Smartphone with a QWERT KB, also it does more PDA functions out of the box than something like the 3125 and then ofcourse it is 3G. Now Samsung is coming out with it's successor, the i600 I believe that is going to have WiFi. Cingular didn't quite have a category for it so they just put where it finanacilally benefits them. Interestingly neither the store nor any CSR has ever pushed me to the PDA plan all they have said is that I better get unlimited data if I am going to surf the web, watch video and do everything else this phone is capable of doing.

For watching video, I agree. For everything else, it really depends on how much you use it. No sense paying for more than you have to, obviously.


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I guess there is WM5 and there is WM5 - lol. The two OS's are different but I don't know enough about it to explain it, specially to someone who knows way more than me about Operating Systems.

The two are going to be combined sometime during the next couple of years or so I hear.

Shawn, where are you? I could use some help here you know?
I'm better on the history of operating systems than I am on the current versions . I know a bit about about Win XP, Mac OS X and Palm 5.4, but almost nothing about WM5.


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For watching video, I agree. For everything else, it really depends on how much you use it. No sense paying for more than you have to, obviously.


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I really don't plan to watch video on a itty bitty screen (borrowed word from WG's vocabulary). I did however browse WA with my WiFi enabled IPAQ when I was not near a terminal at home. I have been doing the browsing with my Blackjack now and unlimited data would be the way to go for me. I can always downgrade if I find myself not using it that much....

PS: In the process of messing around with data plans, somehow I ended up with free unlimited text messaging until 2/03/07. What a great ammunition to bombard my text messaging friends with......
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I'm better on the history of operating systems than I am on the current versions . I know a bit about about Win XP, Mac OS X and Palm 5.4, but almost nothing about WM5.


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You are right ofcourse, except for one basic problem, Cingular insists that the Blackjack is a PDAPhone NOT a Smartphone.
The good sales reps. will try to sell you the correct data plan...certainly NOT the PDA connect. If all else fails, ask for their supervisor. Bad reps. won't know any better and will sell you the more expensive, PDA plan!

Another way to know is through OLAM (online access management). When you log into your account, pretend to upgrade your phone, get to the point to choosing a data plan, you will NOT see an option for PDA connect on any of the smartphones!
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The good sales reps. will try to sell you the correct data plan...certainly NOT the PDA connect. If all else fails, ask for their supervisor. Bad reps. won't know any better and will sell you the more expensive, PDA plan!

Another way to know is through OLAM (online access management). When you log into your account, pretend to upgrade your phone, get to the point to choosing a data plan, you will NOT see an option for PDA connect on any of the smartphones!
I am sorry but I disagree, the only plan that is available for the Blackjack with OLAM is the PDA plan. if you want any other plan then you have to call CS. Also the only way to qualify for the Blackjack rebate is with the PDA plan. This is true for the Blackjack only and not any other Smartphone.

I don't think it is a matter of good vs bad sales reps, they are just following directives. Cingular calls the Blackjack a PDAphone for whatever reason. There is a mass of people protesting this, so they may change it eventually.
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I am sorry but I disagree, the only plan that is available for the Blackjack with OLAM is the PDA plan. if you want any other plan then you have to call CS. Also the only way to qualify for the Blackjack rebate is with the PDA plan. This is true for the Blackjack only and not any other Smartphone.

I don't think it is a matter of good vs bad sales reps, they are just following directives. Cingular calls the Blackjack a PDAphone for whatever reason. There is a mass of people protesting this, so they may change it eventually.
Charlyee Cingular needs to address the issue, CNET and Phonescoop both call it a smartphone so who is wrong them or Cingular? I tried to buy a data plan through Cingular after pretending to purchase the Blackjack and I was directed to the PDA connect plans.
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Clarification of definition of Smartphone VS PPC according to Windows.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/about/faq.mspx#2
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Q: What’s the difference between a Pocket PC and a Smartphone?
A: Pocket PCs come with mobile versions of Office applications in addition to Microsoft Office Outlook Mobile. Though there are different Pocket PCs, many come with Wi-Fi to enable you to connect to the Internet when you are in a wireless hotspot. With a Pocket PC, you’ll be able to use Word Mobile, Excel Mobile, and PowerPoint Mobile and browse the Internet if you have a device with Wi-Fi and are in a wireless hotspot. You can compose e-mail messages and send them by synchronizing with your desktop computer or wirelessly when you’re in a hotspot.

You can do everything with a Pocket PC Phone that you can do with a Pocket PC with the addition of wireless access to the Internet and cellular phone capabilities. If you have a Pocket PC Phone, you can access the Internet through your wireless connection—you won’t need to find a wireless hotspot. Internet access incurs data charges from your wireless provider.

You can add a wide variety of software titles to your Pocket PC and Pocket PC Phone. You can visit the Windows Mobile Certified Software Catalog, which lists certified applications for Windows Mobile powered devices.

A smartphone has phone capabilities and comes with a smaller set of applications. Though you can add third-party software titles to your smartphone, the smaller keypad and screen are designed to give you quick one-handed access to important data. A smartphone is a good choice for business users who need to check e-mail, keep track of their calendars, and take voice notes, but who don’t need the added functionality of Word Mobile, Excel Mobile, and PowerPoint Mobile. If you find yourself wanting more functions after you’ve purchased your device, there are good third-party software titles designed to extend the capabilities of a Windows Mobile powered smartphone.
I don't think it can get any clearer than that, now let me clarify why there's a difference in the two prices differences, Cingular figures customers who purchase PDA style phones are more business oriented and will use more data, also there is more configurability with PPC so that's why it's higher. Charlyee is clear and correct about the Rebate, and if this application set is true for her device then it does qualify as a PDA instead of a Smartphone and it would be my mistake for classifying it as a smartphone. Now in the version after Codename: Crossbow (WM6) the smartphone suite will be done away with and both Smartphones and PPC's will be running the same version of windows, please note this is done for developers more than not because there are 2 different SDK's and programming methods for the two.

Ok and last but not least, it may be running Smartphone and still be classified as a PDA by Cingular, you have to understand it's their system and things go by their rules. It's about the average data useage more than anything and that's how they may have classified this device.
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Nice Review, curious does it have Wifi? Not sure I would give up my pearl for this, but interesting. Nice to see a new player in this market, other than RIM, Motorola, HP, etc. Can only make things better for everyone.

Have you tried when calling Cingular, asking for BB support instead of the normal customer service? I know it is not a BB but wonder if they might have more or better info since it is similar to a BB. When with Cingular and having a BB I found there BB support group to be very good.
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