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danielkarluk · 08-11-2009, 4:15 AM

how do i find out wich cell service is on it, if any? I have carried my old phones there to check signal strength and all carriers show no change compared to before the tower went up. Its a guy wire type tower, not free standing. thanks for all your help.

COtech · 08-11-2009, 8:46 AM

You've mentioned the tower. Have antennas been mounted on it? Is there cable connecting the antennas to equipment enclosures (cabinets, buildings)? Have power and phones lines been supplied? (Check for electric meters, labeled with carriers' names.)

The electric meters and phone line terminations are likely mounted on a four by eight plywood sheet, mounted on two posts. This will be near a parking spot, or along the access drive. The phone line terminations should be outside where the ILEC personnel can reach them for testing. Electric meters can be inside or outside the fence. If they are inside, the meters can be read through the fence.

Since it doesn't register on any of your handsets, I'd say it isn't operating yet. In your area you could expect:
Corr Wireless
Verizon
T-Mobile (near major roads)
Sprint (same)
AT&T (same)
SouthernLink
Nextel

COtech

Der84 · 08-14-2009, 11:19 AM

What you could also do, is post a picture of the tower on here, and maybe one of our tower experts in that area might be able to tell you who's on it.

Yankees368 · 08-14-2009, 11:26 AM

Like COtech said, the easiest and most reliable way to find out what carrier is on a tower is to take a peak at the power meters. Any new site should have the power meters labeled, and will tell you who is on that tower. So will the equipment, as they usually have an 800 number can you can call and find out who it is that way.

Der84 · 08-14-2009, 12:09 PM

Yeah, sorry, my idea is a little off-beat. Just an excuse to get another tower pic I guess.

ha ha.

Yankees368 · 08-14-2009, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Der84

Yeah, sorry, my idea is a little off-beat. Just an excuse to get another tower pic I guess.

ha ha.

Fine, fine, fine. I'll put a few up that I have been hording.

Der84 · 08-14-2009, 12:30 PM

Atta boy Yankee! I somehow had the feeling you had a few pics with ya.

I've been swamped with work and haven't been able to get out for some good pics, so I have to hope for someone else to put their's up, ha.

Yankees368 · 08-14-2009, 12:37 PM

Done. Just 2 for now though.

larry · 08-14-2009, 6:26 PM

I have seen situations where it took over 6 months before a tower was transmitting a signal from the time the tower was physically constructed. It could just be that the site is not yet active while waiting for certain equipment like T1's or final permits to be issued.

TelcomJunkie · 08-14-2009, 6:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Der84

What you could also do, is post a picture of the tower on here, and maybe one of our tower experts in that area might be able to tell you who's on it.

This would be helpful, it may not even be a cell tower.

danielkarluk · 08-15-2009, 5:38 PM

i thought for sure the carriers on that tower would be listed in WA or radioreference.com, but i couldnt find a database for where carriers' transmitters are, why dont they have such a database? i will go read the signs on the fence and look for a coax or wires. it has a single triangle shaped structure on the very top. I am thinking its our local ambulance because i dont remember being able to hear 463.1 mhz on my scanner while the antenna is disconnected. its 5 miles from my house though so i dont know if that frequency is coming from that tower or a closer one. i guess if I had some kind of a meter i could tell.

danielkarluk · 09-05-2009, 7:43 PM

the signs on the fence say at&t. I dont know if its an at&t tower or if the signs were marking at&t as the provider of the buried cables running to the site.
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danielkarluk · 09-05-2009, 7:45 PM

how can i know when the service will be active as my old at&t phones with expired sim cards always show no signal even if there is one. I will try calling the number i got off the fence.
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danielkarluk · 09-06-2009, 3:33 AM

the number off the fence is 800 638 2822. i called it and pressed option 1 and got "welcome to the new at&t", then waited for 17 mins and they must have been closed. can i assume this is and at&t tower? what if there is more than one cellular provider on the same tower, would there be a sign for each provider on the fence surrounding the mast?

Der84 · 09-09-2009, 2:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danielkarluk

the number off the fence is 800 638 2822. i called it and pressed option 1 and got "welcome to the new at&t", then waited for 17 mins and they must have been closed. can i assume this is and at&t tower? what if there is more than one cellular provider on the same tower, would there be a sign for each provider on the fence surrounding the mast?

Are you able to get a picture of this tower?? It would be interesting to see what this tower is. Also someone else may be able to identify the other carriers on the tower, if any.

danielkarluk · 09-09-2009, 2:57 AM

all i have is the camera on my phone, is uploading it to WA self explanatory, i have never done it before. would the camera on my phone give you a good enough pic? let me look thru your pics, i'm sure one of them looks just like it.

danielkarluk · 09-09-2009, 3:01 AM

looks like der84's "lambton line" on the first page of the tower photos. except it has none of the other antennaes on it exept the triangular structure on top.

Der84 · 09-09-2009, 3:10 AM

Aah, that's one of my recent pics of a Bell Mobility tower I believe. Funny that you should pick one of mine...ha ha.

Well it's a guyed tower then, that's for sure.

danielkarluk · 09-09-2009, 3:14 AM

where it connects to the concrete at the base it comes to a point. i guess to let it sway. you know what i mean?

danielkarluk · 09-09-2009, 3:18 AM

does the at&t conglomerate usually use this design these days? what do the newer at&t towers in your area look like?

Der84 · 09-09-2009, 3:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danielkarluk

where it connects to the concrete at the base it comes to a point. i guess to let it sway. you know what i mean?

Hmm.. I don't know what you mean by "let it sway". But yeah, it sounds like your basic guyed tower. Lots of those around everywhere, they're pretty common.

Der84 · 09-09-2009, 3:25 AM

I'm actually in Canada...ha ha. They don't have AT&T here. The 3 big cell companies are Rogers Wireless, Telus Mobility, and Bell Mobility.

The design of the tower will have nothing to do with which company is using the tower. It will have more to do with what is the most appropriate to be built in the area. (Eg). A tall guyed tower may need to be to be built to cover a large area.

danielkarluk · 09-09-2009, 3:43 AM

ok. i was just wondering as to why the 3 spines of this tower come to a point at the base, maybe to let the tower move with the wind ever so slightly. i have heard rigid buildings fare worse when moved, so maybe that thinking works with towers as well. guy wired towers work better when the tower is extremely tall? they're cheaper to build?

Der84 · 09-09-2009, 3:49 AM

Well an extremely tall tower could be a guyed tower, but it could also be a 3 or sometimes 4-legged latticed tower or I've seen some pretty tall monopoles too.

I'm not sure which is cheaper to build, but if cost is an issue and one design is a little cheaper and efficient to build then another then that could be the case too.

The height of the tower could also be due to if one or more carriers were to come along and co-locate on the structure later on.

There are different reasons as to why a tower is built a certain way.

Der84 · 09-09-2009, 4:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danielkarluk

all i have is the camera on my phone, is uploading it to WA self explanatory, i have never done it before. would the camera on my phone give you a good enough pic? let me look thru your pics, i'm sure one of them looks just like it.

By the way.....I didn't notice this post you made earlier, until just now.

Yeah, camera phone pics are just as good too. You said the tower is located in Alabama, so just upload the picture into the Alabama album. It's pretty easy to upload a picture.

danielkarluk · 09-09-2009, 4:50 AM

ok. this tower isnt really tall, its average height.

08-11-2009, 4:15 AM	#1
danielkarluk Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 92 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	a new tower was put up near the school in locust fork alabama how do i find out wich cell service is on it, if any? I have carried my old phones there to check signal strength and all carriers show no change compared to before the tower went up. Its a guy wire type tower, not free standing. thanks for all your help.

08-11-2009, 8:46 AM	#2
COtech Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 936 Phone(s): HTC Tilt 8925, Nokia 6555, NEC 525 HDM, Nokia 6340i GAIT Provider(s): AT&T Mobility Devices: MP3 player, WWVB wristwatch, TI-80 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 6 Posts My Auctions	Re: a new tower was put up near the school in locust fork alabama You've mentioned the tower. Have antennas been mounted on it? Is there cable connecting the antennas to equipment enclosures (cabinets, buildings)? Have power and phones lines been supplied? (Check for electric meters, labeled with carriers' names.) The electric meters and phone line terminations are likely mounted on a four by eight plywood sheet, mounted on two posts. This will be near a parking spot, or along the access drive. The phone line terminations should be outside where the ILEC personnel can reach them for testing. Electric meters can be inside or outside the fence. If they are inside, the meters can be read through the fence. Since it doesn't register on any of your handsets, I'd say it isn't operating yet. In your area you could expect: Corr Wireless Verizon T-Mobile (near major roads) Sprint (same) AT&T (same) SouthernLink Nextel COtech __________________ A SLA gets the trouble away!

08-14-2009, 11:19 AM	#3
Der84 The Canadian Cheese Head Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ontario Posts: 319 Phone(s): Motorazr Provider(s): Rogers Wireless Thanks: 9 Thanked 14 Times in 12 Posts Images: 272	Re: a new tower was put up near the school in locust fork alabama What you could also do, is post a picture of the tower on here, and maybe one of our tower experts in that area might be able to tell you who's on it. __________________ If you can't see the bright side of life, polish the dull side.

08-14-2009, 11:26 AM	#4
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Der84 The Canadian Cheese Head Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ontario Posts: 319 Phone(s): Motorazr Provider(s): Rogers Wireless Thanks: 9 Thanked 14 Times in 12 Posts Images: 272	Re: a new tower was put up near the school in locust fork alabama Yeah, sorry, my idea is a little off-beat. Just an excuse to get another tower pic I guess. ha ha. __________________ If you can't see the bright side of life, polish the dull side.

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08-14-2009, 12:30 PM	#7
Der84 The Canadian Cheese Head Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ontario Posts: 319 Phone(s): Motorazr Provider(s): Rogers Wireless Thanks: 9 Thanked 14 Times in 12 Posts Images: 272	Re: a new tower was put up near the school in locust fork alabama Atta boy Yankee! I somehow had the feeling you had a few pics with ya. I've been swamped with work and haven't been able to get out for some good pics, so I have to hope for someone else to put their's up, ha. __________________ If you can't see the bright side of life, polish the dull side.

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08-14-2009, 6:26 PM	#9
larry Go Angels! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 13,384 Phone(s): LG Rumor 2, Sanyo Katana II Provider(s): Sprint Thanks: 29 Thanked 25 Times in 24 Posts Images: 154 My Auctions	Re: a new tower was put up near the school in locust fork alabama I have seen situations where it took over 6 months before a tower was transmitting a signal from the time the tower was physically constructed. It could just be that the site is not yet active while waiting for certain equipment like T1's or final permits to be issued.

08-15-2009, 5:38 PM	Original Poster #11
danielkarluk Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 92 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: a new tower was put up near the school in locust fork alabama i thought for sure the carriers on that tower would be listed in WA or radioreference.com, but i couldnt find a database for where carriers' transmitters are, why dont they have such a database? i will go read the signs on the fence and look for a coax or wires. it has a single triangle shaped structure on the very top. I am thinking its our local ambulance because i dont remember being able to hear 463.1 mhz on my scanner while the antenna is disconnected. its 5 miles from my house though so i dont know if that frequency is coming from that tower or a closer one. i guess if I had some kind of a meter i could tell.

09-05-2009, 7:43 PM	Original Poster #12
danielkarluk Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 92 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	the signs on the fence say at&t. I dont know if its an at&t tower or if the signs were marking at&t as the provider of the buried cables running to the site. Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 5.1; Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)

09-05-2009, 7:45 PM	Original Poster #13
danielkarluk Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 92 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	how can i know when the service will be active as my old at&t phones with expired sim cards always show no signal even if there is one. I will try calling the number i got off the fence. Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 5.1; Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)

09-06-2009, 3:33 AM	Original Poster #14
danielkarluk Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 92 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: a new tower was put up near the school in locust fork alabama the number off the fence is 800 638 2822. i called it and pressed option 1 and got "welcome to the new at&t", then waited for 17 mins and they must have been closed. can i assume this is and at&t tower? what if there is more than one cellular provider on the same tower, would there be a sign for each provider on the fence surrounding the mast?

09-09-2009, 2:57 AM	Original Poster #16
danielkarluk Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 92 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: a new tower was put up near the school in locust fork alabama all i have is the camera on my phone, is uploading it to WA self explanatory, i have never done it before. would the camera on my phone give you a good enough pic? let me look thru your pics, i'm sure one of them looks just like it.

09-09-2009, 3:01 AM	Original Poster #17
danielkarluk Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 92 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: a new tower was put up near the school in locust fork alabama looks like der84's "lambton line" on the first page of the tower photos. except it has none of the other antennaes on it exept the triangular structure on top.

09-09-2009, 3:10 AM	#18
Der84 The Canadian Cheese Head Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ontario Posts: 319 Phone(s): Motorazr Provider(s): Rogers Wireless Thanks: 9 Thanked 14 Times in 12 Posts Images: 272	Re: a new tower was put up near the school in locust fork alabama Aah, that's one of my recent pics of a Bell Mobility tower I believe. Funny that you should pick one of mine...ha ha. Well it's a guyed tower then, that's for sure.

09-09-2009, 3:14 AM	Original Poster #19
danielkarluk Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 92 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: a new tower was put up near the school in locust fork alabama where it connects to the concrete at the base it comes to a point. i guess to let it sway. you know what i mean?

09-09-2009, 3:18 AM	Original Poster #20
danielkarluk Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 92 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: a new tower was put up near the school in locust fork alabama does the at&t conglomerate usually use this design these days? what do the newer at&t towers in your area look like?

09-09-2009, 3:25 AM	#22
Der84 The Canadian Cheese Head Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ontario Posts: 319 Phone(s): Motorazr Provider(s): Rogers Wireless Thanks: 9 Thanked 14 Times in 12 Posts Images: 272	Re: a new tower was put up near the school in locust fork alabama I'm actually in Canada...ha ha. They don't have AT&T here. The 3 big cell companies are Rogers Wireless, Telus Mobility, and Bell Mobility. The design of the tower will have nothing to do with which company is using the tower. It will have more to do with what is the most appropriate to be built in the area. (Eg). A tall guyed tower may need to be to be built to cover a large area.

09-09-2009, 3:43 AM	Original Poster #23
danielkarluk Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 92 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: a new tower was put up near the school in locust fork alabama ok. i was just wondering as to why the 3 spines of this tower come to a point at the base, maybe to let the tower move with the wind ever so slightly. i have heard rigid buildings fare worse when moved, so maybe that thinking works with towers as well. guy wired towers work better when the tower is extremely tall? they're cheaper to build?

09-09-2009, 3:49 AM	#24
Der84 The Canadian Cheese Head Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ontario Posts: 319 Phone(s): Motorazr Provider(s): Rogers Wireless Thanks: 9 Thanked 14 Times in 12 Posts Images: 272	Re: a new tower was put up near the school in locust fork alabama Well an extremely tall tower could be a guyed tower, but it could also be a 3 or sometimes 4-legged latticed tower or I've seen some pretty tall monopoles too. I'm not sure which is cheaper to build, but if cost is an issue and one design is a little cheaper and efficient to build then another then that could be the case too. The height of the tower could also be due to if one or more carriers were to come along and co-locate on the structure later on. There are different reasons as to why a tower is built a certain way.

09-09-2009, 4:50 AM	Original Poster #26
danielkarluk Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 92 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: a new tower was put up near the school in locust fork alabama ok. this tower isnt really tall, its average height.

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