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Yankees368 · 06-19-2007, 12:05 AM

I've never seen this thing before. In the attacted picture, if you look at the far right sector, the 2nd bracket in from the left, there is some sort of small antenna thing. It is pointed down at a local shopping strip in a small village. Is this an antenna localized for just this small area? Has anyone seen this kinda thing before?

RadioFoneGuy · 06-23-2007, 12:18 AM

possible wifi panel or a donor antenna for a repeater.

COtech · 06-24-2007, 6:30 PM

Could it be aimed at the carrier's own store in the shopping center? Nothing like strong signal to demo phones with.

COtech

Yankees368 · 06-24-2007, 9:11 PM

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Originally Posted by COtech

Could it be aimed at the carrier's own store in the shopping center? Nothing like strong signal to demo phones with.

COtech

Nothing really in the line of sight like that. Just a new 3rd party re-seller that is opening soon

Andy · 06-24-2007, 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by COtech

Could it be aimed at the carrier's own store in the shopping center? Nothing like strong signal to demo phones with.

COtech

In my area VZW has repeaters in a lot of their stores, even in some of their Circuit City locations.

RadioFoneGuy · 06-25-2007, 12:53 PM

Could be for the reseller, as we all know PCS isnt the best for in building coverage. It also depends on how far away the building is from the cell site.

I have a 1900 tower that is 1/4 mile from a mall and in the middle of the mall my phone will pick up an 850 tower that is 5 miles away versus the 1900 across the street from the mall. The mall is directly in front of the panels on the north side (alpha) of the tower.

So in theory is your a 1900 carrier and you lose coverage in building and you have roaming partners in the small town running 850 its possible your phone will go into roaming on another carrier which would be bad in a sales office.

hillbilly44 · 07-03-2007, 7:10 PM

More likely it's a GPS antenna for Phase 2 E911 compliance.

RadioFoneGuy · 07-04-2007, 12:57 AM

Ive never seen a GPS panel.

Yankees368 · 07-04-2007, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Cellonetech

Ive never seen a GPS panel.

Agreed. I really don't know what the heck this thing is. It's a mystery

larry · 07-06-2007, 12:43 AM

I've seen these before when used for a donor for a repeater like Cellonetech mentioned. I'll try to take a picture of one I saw the other day.

Yankees368 · 07-25-2007, 10:16 PM

I got a somewhat better pic of this thing today. Any ideas yet?

Fire14 · 07-26-2007, 1:56 PM

That almost looks like a repeater to give coverage below the antenna's.

It also looks like the diamond repeaters that T-Mobile uses on their towers, but those normally are facing tower to tower & not the ground.

RJB · 07-29-2007, 2:26 AM

It is a brain neuron scanner

KyleAndMelissa22 · 07-29-2007, 4:34 PM

Could it be a weird microwave, to beam that signal at the ground?
like a directional antenna..focussing the signal at one particular place on the ground..dont know what else it could be.

Yankees368 · 07-29-2007, 4:45 PM

who knows...oh well!

SprintTek · 09-24-2007, 6:19 PM

The antenna array it is mounted to belongs to iden. unsure what specific purpose it serves, but more than likely it something in the ghz range.

RadioRaiders · 09-26-2007, 9:20 AM

It's probably just a micro-cell to take the extra traffic from the shopping center away from the macro-cell (the larger cell). Otherwise the macro-cell will get jammed up with traffic from the shopping center. With both the micro and macro cell, they can have the micro for the shopping center, and the macro for the wider area.

RadioFoneGuy · 09-26-2007, 11:36 PM

Its possible, but the larger panels have a higher Gain factor of approx +18 db with a 6 ft panel vs the localized mini direction panel which probably runs +3 to 5 db.

If in fact that is iDen that rules out the repeater idea I had because the 800 smr band will penetrate the concrete. I wonder if this is some sort of hybrid Sprint/Nextel site and the small panel is for 1900 CDMA, if there is a dealer near the site they would need CDMA in order to demo the Buzz hybrid phones. I have seen a few dealers and corporate stores use repeaters to ensure full coverage on the sales floor.

Yankees368 · 09-27-2007, 2:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cellonetech

Its possible, but the larger panels have a higher Gain factor of approx +18 db with a 6 ft panel vs the localized mini direction panel which probably runs +3 to 5 db.

If in fact that is iDen that rules out the repeater idea I had because the 800 smr band will penetrate the concrete. I wonder if this is some sort of hybrid Sprint/Nextel site and the small panel is for 1900 CDMA, if there is a dealer near the site they would need CDMA in order to demo the Buzz hybrid phones. I have seen a few dealers and corporate stores use repeaters to ensure full coverage on the sales floor.

Yeah, there are no dealers (at least Sprint or Verizon around there) I'm fairly certain that this site is also a full blown Sprint site, though I do not think that it is Nextel.

RadioFoneGuy · 09-27-2007, 10:17 AM

Could also be someone or the Super of that building sharing a Wifi connection.

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06-24-2007, 6:30 PM	#3
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07-03-2007, 7:10 PM	#7
hillbilly44 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 713 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Odd Pannel Addition More likely it's a GPS antenna for Phase 2 E911 compliance.

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07-06-2007, 12:43 AM	#10
larry Go Angels! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 13,384 Phone(s): LG Rumor 2, Sanyo Katana II Provider(s): Sprint Thanks: 29 Thanked 25 Times in 24 Posts Images: 154 My Auctions	Re: Odd Pannel Addition I've seen these before when used for a donor for a repeater like Cellonetech mentioned. I'll try to take a picture of one I saw the other day.

07-26-2007, 1:56 PM	#12
Fire14 Easy,Cheap & Sleazy Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Union County NJ Posts: 8,457 Phone(s): EnV, V750 Provider(s): Verizon Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Images: 293 My Auctions	Re: Odd Panel Addition That almost looks like a repeater to give coverage below the antenna's. It also looks like the diamond repeaters that T-Mobile uses on their towers, but those normally are facing tower to tower & not the ground.

07-29-2007, 2:26 AM	#13
RJB Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,064 Provider(s): VZW, AT&T Thanks: 36 Thanked 15 Times in 15 Posts Images: 96	Re: Odd Panel Addition It is a brain neuron scanner

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07-29-2007, 4:45 PM	Original Poster #15
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09-24-2007, 6:19 PM	#16
SprintTek I have arrived! Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Kissimmee, FL Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Odd Panel Addition The antenna array it is mounted to belongs to iden. unsure what specific purpose it serves, but more than likely it something in the ghz range.

09-26-2007, 9:20 AM	#17
RadioRaiders Telecom Evangelist Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Undisclosed Posts: 1,360 Provider(s): GSM / WCDMA Thanks: 36 Thanked 43 Times in 33 Posts	Re: Odd Panel Addition It's probably just a micro-cell to take the extra traffic from the shopping center away from the macro-cell (the larger cell). Otherwise the macro-cell will get jammed up with traffic from the shopping center. With both the micro and macro cell, they can have the micro for the shopping center, and the macro for the wider area.

09-26-2007, 11:36 PM	#18
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09-27-2007, 10:17 AM	#20
RadioFoneGuy Powered by HTC FUZE Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Everywhere. Posts: 1,263 Phone(s): Nokia 6103, 6010, 2260, HTC FUZE, HTC TILT, Nokia 6682, 6085, to many phones Provider(s): The death star formally known as Cell One. Thanks: 5 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Images: 6	Re: Odd Panel Addition Could also be someone or the Super of that building sharing a Wifi connection.

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