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Jonathan Kramer · 11-10-2005, 10:01 PM

Gang:

On 11/1/05 I presented a tower siting lecture to the California Chapter of the American Planning Association. My co-presenter was Robert Smith from Crown Castle. We called our presentation, "Wireless Siting 2005: A Sea Change."

I recorded the lecture and have converted it to streaming audio. I've also converted the two sets of lecture slides to PDF format. Both are now linked through my main website, www.KramerFirm.com. The lecture runs about 1.25 hours.

I hope you find the industry v. government views to be interesting. I certainly did!

Best,

Jonathan

PS: I'd appreciate your comments on the lectures posted here, both positive

and <gasp> otherwise

to help me do an even better job in the future. jlk

Yankees368 · 11-10-2005, 11:31 PM

Just listened to the lecture...it was great! It was cool to hear the problems of the tower industry, asbolutly a new prespective for me. It was a great lecture!

Jonathan Kramer · 11-10-2005, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Yankees368

Just listened to the lecture...it was great! It was cool to hear the problems of the tower industry, asbolutly a new prespective for me. It was a great lecture!

Thanks, Yankee! I really enjoy giving the lectures, and this is the third one I've done with an industry rep on the same panel. I've alway thought that one point of view is one point of view too few.

Best,

Jonathan

Yankees368 · 11-10-2005, 11:41 PM

The only problem (just for us forum people) is that it was sometimes a little bit difficult to keep up with the slides and figure out which slide be currently being discused, but i got over it, lol.

I also wanted to bring up that picture of the GIANT transmission line. What is that thing...half a mile wide?!?

Jonathan Kramer · 11-10-2005, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yankees368

The only problem (just for us forum people) is that it was sometimes a little bit difficult to keep up with the slides and figure out which slide be currently being discused, but i got over it, lol.

I also wanted to bring up that picture of the GIANT transmission line. What is that thing...half a mile wide?!?

It's hard to get a handle on just how big

that thing is until you look at the cars below it, eh?

That moster tower is in Federal Way, Washington, as is the slide that follows it (the two towers side-by-side). Maybe I'll post the monster to the Washington gallery.

-Jonathan

Yankees368 · 11-10-2005, 11:54 PM

Yeah, i'm sure everyone here will get a kick out of that thing. And i thought New Jersey had some old school large transmission lines, that thing makes them look like your everyday neighborhood utility pole!

Jonathan Kramer · 11-11-2005, 3:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yankees368

Yeah, i'm sure everyone here will get a kick out of that thing. And i thought New Jersey had some old school large transmission lines, that thing makes them look like your everyday neighborhood utility pole!

Okay! I've put 3 photos online in the Washington section. One of the Monster, and two of the BTS cabs at the base.

Best,

j

Yankees368 · 11-11-2005, 4:00 AM

I also took a look around your page of the pictures of cable lines. I have to say, that picture of the heavy duty chain holding on to the cable was pretty funny. I have never seen that before!

Charlyee · 11-11-2005, 1:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonathan Kramer

Gang:

On 11/1/05 I presented a tower siting lecture to the California Chapter of the American Planning Association. My co-presenter was Robert Smith from Crown Castle. We called our presentation, "Wireless Siting 2005: A Sea Change."

I recorded the lecture and have converted it to streaming audio. I've also converted the two sets of lecture slides to PDF format. Both are now linked through my main website, www.KramerFirm.com. The lecture runs about 1.25 hours.

I hope you find the industry v. government views to be interesting. I certainly did!

Best,

Jonathan

PS: I'd appreciate your comments on the lectures posted here, both positive

and <gasp> otherwise

to help me do an even better job in the future. jlk

HELP, Robert Smith's presentation is downloading but not yours. Yours says "Page is Unavailable".

Jonathan Kramer · 11-11-2005, 4:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlyee

HELP, Robert Smith's presentation is downloading but not yours. Yours says "Page is Unavailable".

Charlyee:

Please try again...but be prepared to wait. The PDF is better part of 70 MB (the original PowerPointLess was about 125 MB) due to the photographs.

I noticed that my server was attacked this morning by an out-of-country site. I put the IP range into my firewall to kill it.

Best,

Jonathan

Charlyee · 11-11-2005, 4:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan Kramer

Charlyee:

Please try again...but be prepared to wait. The PDF is better part of 70 MB (the original PowerPointLess was about 125 MB) due to the photographs.

I noticed that my server was attacked this morning by an out-of-country site. I put the IP range into my firewall to kill it.

Best,

Jonathan

Thanks Jonathan, I got it, now ofcourse I will have to read the 63 pages...

. I am on page 6, looks very interesting, thanks for sharing with us.

Jonathan Kramer · 11-17-2005, 3:27 AM

I've received a lot of nice comments on/off the board about the lecture. I'm glad that people are enjoying it, even if the PDF is a monster download.

-Best-

Jonathan

~~RJB~~ · 11-19-2005, 2:19 PM

I will take some time this weekend and listen to it.

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Yankees368 Compulsive Signal Checker Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lansing, MI & Long Island Posts: 3,227 Phone(s): TouchPRO, Mogul, Sanyo M1, Motorola K1m,Samsung a900, Sanyo 7400 8200 8100 6200, Samsung a460, Nokia 5190 Provider(s): Sprint PCS (since 2002), Voicestream (2001-2002) Devices: S9 HD, 30GB iPod 5g, 2GB nano, Dell XPS M1530 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts Images: 528	Re: Tower Siting Lecture On Line Just listened to the lecture...it was great! It was cool to hear the problems of the tower industry, asbolutly a new prespective for me. It was a great lecture! __________________ "'Current Sprint Service Can Not Be Used' What the hell does that mean?!?"

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Yankees368 Compulsive Signal Checker Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lansing, MI & Long Island Posts: 3,227 Phone(s): TouchPRO, Mogul, Sanyo M1, Motorola K1m,Samsung a900, Sanyo 7400 8200 8100 6200, Samsung a460, Nokia 5190 Provider(s): Sprint PCS (since 2002), Voicestream (2001-2002) Devices: S9 HD, 30GB iPod 5g, 2GB nano, Dell XPS M1530 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts Images: 528	Re: Tower Siting Lecture On Line The only problem (just for us forum people) is that it was sometimes a little bit difficult to keep up with the slides and figure out which slide be currently being discused, but i got over it, lol. I also wanted to bring up that picture of the GIANT transmission line. What is that thing...half a mile wide?!? __________________ "'Current Sprint Service Can Not Be Used' What the hell does that mean?!?"

11-10-2005, 11:54 PM	#6 (permalink)
Yankees368 Compulsive Signal Checker Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lansing, MI & Long Island Posts: 3,227 Phone(s): TouchPRO, Mogul, Sanyo M1, Motorola K1m,Samsung a900, Sanyo 7400 8200 8100 6200, Samsung a460, Nokia 5190 Provider(s): Sprint PCS (since 2002), Voicestream (2001-2002) Devices: S9 HD, 30GB iPod 5g, 2GB nano, Dell XPS M1530 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts Images: 528	Re: Tower Siting Lecture On Line Yeah, i'm sure everyone here will get a kick out of that thing. And i thought New Jersey had some old school large transmission lines, that thing makes them look like your everyday neighborhood utility pole! __________________ "'Current Sprint Service Can Not Be Used' What the hell does that mean?!?"

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Yankees368 Compulsive Signal Checker Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lansing, MI & Long Island Posts: 3,227 Phone(s): TouchPRO, Mogul, Sanyo M1, Motorola K1m,Samsung a900, Sanyo 7400 8200 8100 6200, Samsung a460, Nokia 5190 Provider(s): Sprint PCS (since 2002), Voicestream (2001-2002) Devices: S9 HD, 30GB iPod 5g, 2GB nano, Dell XPS M1530 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts Images: 528	Re: Tower Siting Lecture On Line I also took a look around your page of the pictures of cable lines. I have to say, that picture of the heavy duty chain holding on to the cable was pretty funny. I have never seen that before!

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Jonathan Kramer Telecom Atty/RF Engr. Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 618 Phone(s): Crackberry Curve, 2500, Earphones, Tin-cans-and-string Provider(s): Verizon Wireless (as of 8/13/08) Devices: BVSystems Drive Test Receiver Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Images: 249 My Auctions	Re: Tower Siting Lecture On Line I've received a lot of nice comments on/off the board about the lecture. I'm glad that people are enjoying it, even if the PDF is a monster download. -Best- Jonathan

11-19-2005, 2:19 PM	#13 (permalink)
~~RJB~~ Banned Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 7,040 Thanks: 35 Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts Images: 69	Re: Tower Siting Lecture On Line I will take some time this weekend and listen to it.

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