BB 8310 vs Treo 750

[Charlyee]

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Ok fellow forumites, I have the 7 month itch. I have been looking at the 8310 & bugging my BB expert (thanks hf1khal ) for information.

I would be interested to know if any of you have transitioned over from being a WM user to a BB & your experience, both good & bad.

Thanks Much

[Jay2TheRescue]

Originally Posted by Charlyee

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Ok fellow forumites, I have the 7 month itch. I have been looking at the 8310 & bugging my BB expert (thanks hf1khal ) for information.

I would be interested to know if any of you have transitioned over from being a WM user to a BB & your experience, both good & bad.

Thanks Much

I think now is the perfect time to buy a Tilt Charlyee...

Just ask hf1khal, he totally has his Tilt customized. I'm sure you'll love it.

-Jay

EDIT: He's also running his Tilt on a Blackberry connect plan if that helps you out. As you know there are no 3G BB's yet.

[JFB]

Originally Posted by Charlyee

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Ok fellow forumites, I have the 7 month itch. I have been looking at the 8310 & bugging my BB expert (thanks hf1khal ) for information.

I would be interested to know if any of you have transitioned over from being a WM user to a BB & your experience, both good & bad.

Thanks Much

Actually, I'm wondering the opposite.
I think I'm going to have to return my 8310 within the 30 day trial period. I'm paying for EDGE when I just can't get it at my home.

[RJB]

Originally Posted by JFB

Actually, I'm wondering the opposite.
I think I'm going to have to return my 8310 within the 30 day trial period. I'm paying for EDGE when I just can't get it at my home.

Joe who does have good service at your home?

[Jay2TheRescue]

Originally Posted by JFB

Actually, I'm wondering the opposite.
I think I'm going to have to return my 8310 within the 30 day trial period. I'm paying for EDGE when I just can't get it at my home.

No EDGE? I'd think most of Jersey was 3G by now.

-Jay

[Charlyee]

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Lol, Jay, you are sure good at plugging the Tilt every opportunity you get.. If I stay with WM then it will be the Treo & eventually it's successor. I have it totally customized to my satisfaction & more. no 3G is one of the things that bother me about the BBs & the other being I only need Pop3 E-Mail. I keep hearing about the how stable the BB OS is & fantastic a battery life, both of which are lacking in WM devices.

This a very hard decision, I like my Treo very much.

Joe, sorry to hear the 8310/at&t is not working out for you. Aside from poor service, how did you like the 8310 itself, specially reception & call clarity which is phenomenal on my Treo. Thanks

[RJB]

Originally Posted by Charlyee

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Lol, Jay, you are sure good at plugging the Tilt every opportunity you get.. If I stay with WM then it will be the Treo & eventually it's successor. I have it totally customized to my satisfaction & more. no 3G is one of the things that bother me about the BBs & the other being I only need Pop3 E-Mail. I keep hearing about the how stable the BB OS is & fantastic a battery life, both of which are lacking WM devices.

This a very hard decision, I like my Treo very much.

Joe, sorry to hear the 8310/at&t is not working out for you. Aside from poor service, how did you like the 8310 itself, specially reception & call clarity which is phenomenal on my Treo. Thanks

Charlyee you do know there is a Windows Mobile 6 patch out that can enable you to use HSDPA with your 750 right?

[Charlyee]

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Originally Posted by RJB

Charlyee you do know there is a Windows Mobile 6 patch out that can enable you to use HSDPA with your 750 right?

Yes, and I have it. Thanks. I posted about it on my Treo thread 2 days after it came out.

[RJB]

Originally Posted by Charlyee

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Yes, and I have it. Thanks. I posted about it on my Treo thread 2 days after it came out.

Oh ok wasnt aware of your having it.

[JFB]

Originally Posted by RJB

Joe who does have good service at your home?

Everybody is pretty good with voice, but it looks like I'm going to have to go with VZW for excellent data. I can see their tower from my yard.

Originally Posted by Jay2TheRescue

No EDGE? I'd think most of Jersey was 3G by now.

-Jay

I get 'edge' at home not 'EDGE'. I guess I'm on the fringe.

Originally Posted by Charlyee

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Joe, sorry to hear the 8310/at&t is not working out for you. Aside from poor service, how did you like the 8310 itself, specially reception & call clarity which is phenomenal on my Treo. Thanks

Well, I've been kinda babying it and leaving it home because I didn't want to damage it. I love the look and feel of it.

I don't want to hijack your thread anymore.......

[hf1khal]

Originally Posted by Charlyee

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Ok fellow forumites, I have the 7 month itch. I have been looking at the 8310 & bugging my BB expert (thanks hf1khal ) for information.

I would be interested to know if any of you have transitioned over from being a WM user to a BB & your experience, both good & bad.

Thanks Much

Originally Posted by Jay2TheRescue

I think now is the perfect time to buy a Tilt Charlyee...

Just ask hf1khal, he totally has his Tilt customized. I'm sure you'll love it.

-Jay

EDIT: He's also running his Tilt on a Blackberry connect plan if that helps you out. As you know there are no 3G BB's yet.

Yes i have it customized but I have not used now for over a month. The Bb for my work and email purposes totaly surpases the tilt which I gave it plenty of time and sill overall the BB wins. I do have UMTS by me and the EDGE is always on for the BB and in all hoesty the load factor between the two for web pages is about the same. My handset usage now is BB, then V9 then the Tilt for playing around. Soon I will be getting the BB8310 to replace the 8800

[Charlyee]

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lol Joe, but I have more questions for you. . you have the titanium with the GPS, right? Did you get a chance to play with the GPS, if so how did you like it?

[Charlyee]

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Thanks hf1khal, could you elaborate on what features in particular the BBs handle better,other than push mail.

Thanks

[Alienware_51]

Originally Posted by JFB

Everybody is pretty good with voice, but it looks like I'm going to have to go with VZW for excellent data. I can see their tower from my yard.

I get 'edge' at home not 'EDGE'. I guess I'm on the fringe.

Joe, since you already have 'edge' you should be able to get 'EDGE' because "EDGE" when in capitol letters means that you are connected with the BlackBerry servers. Maybe you Blackberry just isn't getting through to the Berry servers??

I had this problem with my first BlackBerry 8700g when I bought it, I had to call CS and have them go through and check all the data features to make sure they were setup properly, and then sure enough, one of them was messed up, and after a few minutes I was connected to the BB servers!


Alien.

[hf1khal]

Originally Posted by Charlyee

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Thanks hf1khal, could you elaborate on what features in particular the BBs handle better,other than push mail.

Thanks

Email is one big thing. I also like the other features of it and especialy the stability of the OS. I had an issue with the Tilt where the battery ran out and it kept on booting in the safe mode and when it came out of safe mode all the registryt tweeks I made were gone. The BB always seems to be more responsive to things and its control of the logs is great and the association of the logs with teh address book is excelent and I could not see how any WM device could eqaul that. I will give you an example, if you have a contact in your phone book and called this person, hit the talk button and you will see the call log, lets say you wanted to called another number in his/her entry, all you have to do is hit meneu and then view the contact info then choose the number you want. Another thing, I am a big beleiver of voice dialing and I never had a miss with it while the Tilt it was a big thng to get it right even with the MS VC which does not work seemlessly with MS's own WM OS on the Tilt. Sound in my opnion is one of the best as well as reception and to date I still have not used any other device that betters it (the tilt is not even close to it). battery life is excelent on it. I could go on and on, but since the device is used by me mainly for work reasons I could not do with out it.

Originally Posted by Alienware_51

Joe, since you already have 'edge' you should be able to get 'EDGE' because "EDGE" when in capitol letters means that you are connected with the BlackBerry servers. Maybe you Blackberry just isn't getting through to the Berry servers??

I had this problem with my first BlackBerry 8700g when I bought it, I had to call CS and have them go through and check all the data features to make sure they were setup properly, and then sure enough, one of them was messed up, and after a few minutes I was connected to the BB servers!


Alien.

I have seen this happen many times in several forums. The largest isue is the provisioning of the BB plan (unless it works in other areas but not in his specific area) then in that area I would try one thing whic is a battery pull for a complete reboot and if that does not work then a re-install of the OS. I would for sure look at the blackberryforums.com and one would learn a lot over there.
By the way another added plus, if one install an upgraded OS the BB sure keeps all settings and moves them to the new one with no issues which to date I have not been able to find a way to so in a WM device. Dead battery means nothing here as all stay as is and no lost items or settings.

[Charlyee]

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Thanks very much hf1khal, I will definitely go and check the 8310 out Monday.

I do have to brag about my Treo, if I call a person, I can hit the green button & that person's name has all his/her contact numbers also, not just the one I called.

I can also search for someone by name or number, right from the Today screen without ever going into the phone book.

[paulmac]

Originally Posted by Charlyee

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Ok fellow forumites, I have the 7 month itch. I have been looking at the 8310 & bugging my BB expert (thanks hf1khal ) for information.

I would be interested to know if any of you have transitioned over from being a WM user to a BB & your experience, both good & bad.

Thanks Much

Charlyee I went from a BB to a windows mobile device (Moto Q), I have learned my lesson and have come full circle back to a BB. While I liked some features of the WM device there were more I disliked. Big thing was the battery life on the Q, it just down right sucked, would not even last a full day. I find that all the BBs I have owned are just solid performers, and just work. Yes there are few things that a BB cannot do compared to a WM device, but I will take the dependability and stability over the WM device any day.

[Eric47]

the blackberry user interface, and build quality is superior to all WM phones..except for possibly the TILT. in my case, i prefer non-touch screen so i use the 8310. In most of my experience, the TREO 750 was an apple that fell FAR from the tree as far as Treos go. the 680's and 650's were much better. but these days, there are just many better options such as the new gen of blackberrys. good luck!

[Charlyee]

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Paul, thanks . What are some of the things that a BB cannot do? I guess I am just a little leery of leaving my comfortable, known, albeit quirky environment only to find out that there is something I absolutely have to have that the BB cannot do.

Eric, thanks. There is a problem though, I have liked all my WM PDAs & PDAPhones & think that my Treo with WM6 & customization is the best device I ever had with the additional benefit of being a superb phone. Most people that know me are positively tired of my saying "I Luv My Treo" all the time.

[Andy]

I have used some Treos, the Motorola Q and the Blackberry Pearl myself and without a doubt I love the Blackberry more than any of the other devices. I love the Blackberry interface, I got addicted to the Blackberry Push e-mail, as well as the excellent built quality and battery life of the phone. The call quality and RF on the phone was excellent, even in fringe mountain canyons. I think that the WM devices have better internet browsing capabilities as well as music capabilities, but aside from that, I love my BB.

[Andy]

Originally Posted by JFB

Actually, I'm wondering the opposite.
I think I'm going to have to return my 8310 within the 30 day trial period. I'm paying for EDGE when I just can't get it at my home.

Pardon me for hijacking this thread (again), but I figure Charlyee wouldn't mind- Joe are you going to just return the 8310 or are you going to switch to Verizon in order to get EVDO data?

[Eric47]

Blackberry is going to be Sneaking out a 3G handset at some point. they are just trying to figure out a battery setup for it that the 3G wont eat through in under a day.

also lets not forget that the updated software will be coming out for the blackberrys (id say soon...of course it was suppose to be out in November and keeps getting pushed back so ill say "Eventually")

that will help with some of the short sides like the email truncation and lack of a versatile browser.

[paulmac]

Originally Posted by Charlyee

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Paul, thanks . What are some of the things that a BB cannot do? I guess I am just a little leery of leaving my comfortable, known, albeit quirky environment only to find out that there is something I absolutely have to have that the BB cannot do.

Eric, thanks. There is a problem though, I have liked all my WM PDAs & PDAPhones & think that my Treo with WM6 & customization is the best device I ever had with the additional benefit of being a superb phone. Most people that know me are positively tired of my saying "I Luv My Treo" all the time.

Charlyee there are just some things that work a little better with WM. Internet surfing is one, surfing using the BB browser, while it is getting better all the time is not the same as Mobile IE. But you can get some third party browsers like Opera mini that helps. Also, verizon does not offer an AIM client. But again, third party app like Jive Talk takes care of that. Overall, what you gain far out weighs what you loose. I have tried both, and know other people who have, and will not give up thier BBs now.

[hf1khal]

Originally Posted by EricN4707

Blackberry is going to be Sneaking out a 3G handset at some point. they are just trying to figure out a battery setup for it that the 3G wont eat through in under a day.

also lets not forget that the updated software will be coming out for the blackberrys (id say soon...of course it was suppose to be out in November and keeps getting pushed back so ill say "Eventually")

that will help with some of the short sides like the email truncation and lack of a versatile browser.

I am waiting for the new OS for the BBs. I do agree about web browsing and OperaMini rocks in this case. Hopefully RIM will advance its browser. Oh by the way, the talk is that the upcomong version will suport HTML based emails and once that happens we good as gold. However, I have to say I wold rather stay without HTML as i have gotten used to it big time. On another note, using the BB was very benneficial to me especialy when roaming international. For a whole months of roaming usage my bill only was $15 for roaming (was for email purposes) and based on the same usage with the Tilt and the the amount of data transfer it had the bill could have been way more than that and possibly close to over $200.

[Charlyee]

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Andy, Paul, Eric & hf1khal, thank you very much. Maybe I should wait until the upgraded OS & 3G?

This is kind of unusual for me, I buy phones on a whim. Over and above the fact that I really do luv my Treo, at&t no longer offers the data/messaging package I am on now. If I get the 8310, switch to the BB plan & then decide I don't want it, I will end up paying more for a comparable package. So I am being rather cautious for a change.

In any case I am going to the store tomorrow

[Jay2TheRescue]

Originally Posted by Charlyee

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Andy, Paul, Eric & hf1khal, thank you very much. Maybe I should wait until the upgraded OS & 3G?

This is kind of unusual for me, I buy phones on a whim. Over and above the fact that I really do luv my Treo, at&t no longer offers the data/messaging package I am on now. If I get the 8310, switch to the BB plan & then decide I don't want it, I will end up paying more for a comparable package. So I am being rather cautious for a change.

In any case I am going to the store tomorrow

So in the mean time you can try a Tilt...

-Jay

[Fire14]

Originally Posted by Charlyee

This a very hard decision, I like my Treo very much.

Now I know you are serious about this, you use to Love your Treo, now you just like it very much. Guess that itch is strong and needs a good scratching.

I think the BB's are more for business users then personal use from what I have heard and not sure if you need it more as a businss phone, if so then I would say go for it otherwise maybe Jay is right & the Tilt is more what you may want to try.

[Jay2TheRescue]

Originally Posted by Fire14

Now I know you are serious about this, you use to Love your Treo, now you just like it very much. Guess that itch is strong and needs a good scratching.

I think the BB's are more for business users then personal use from what I have heard and not sure if you need it more as a businss phone, if so then I would say go for it otherwise maybe Jay is right & the Tilt is more what you may want to try.

Thanks Tom. I'm sire if she tries a Tilt she'd love it just as much, if not more than her Treo.

-Jay

[Charlyee]

Originally Posted by Jay2TheRescue

So in the mean time you can try a Tilt...

-Jay

Lol Jay, you never give up, do you? Sorry I am not going to try the Tilt, no offense but it is larger in size and heavier than my Treo & that is going the wrong way for me. Remember I had the QTEK 9100 which was a predecessor of your Tilt? I never got used to the sliding keyboard or having to use the keyboard on the touch screen.

Originally Posted by Fire14

Now I know you are serious about this, you use to Love your Treo, now
I think the BB's are more for business users then personal use from what I have heard and not sure if you need it more as a businss phone, if so then I would say go for it otherwise maybe Jay is right & the Tilt is more what you may want to try.

I am not sure what defines a business phone I need it as a full function PDA, a web surfer, Pop3 E-Mails. File Management (specially EXCEL), you know everything that my laptop does but in the size of a 6230.

I still luv my Treo, but I am interested in trying a different OS. Interstingly enough my friend at at&t store talked me out of the 8310 when I was there last time and this morning CS rep talked me out of it also. They are both basing their opinion on what I said my requirements were.

The one thing that I don't understand is that all BB users say how great the battery life is compared to a WM device, yet when I look at the specs, the talk time of the BB 8310 is actually less than that of the Treo 750. What am I missing?

BB8310 vs Treo 750

[Jay2TheRescue]

Originally Posted by Charlyee

Lol Jay, you never give up, do you? Sorry I am not going to try the Tilt, no offense but it is larger in size and heavier than my Treo & that is going the wrong way for me. Remember I had the QTEK 9100 which was a predecessor of your Tilt? I never got used to the sliding keyboard or having to use the keyboard on the touch screen.

I am not sure what defines a business phone I need it as a full function PDA, a web surfer, Pop3 E-Mails. File Management (specially EXCEL), you know everything that my laptop does but in the size of a 6230.

I still luv my Treo, but I am interested in trying a different OS. Interstingly enough my friend at at&t store talked me out of the 8310 when I was there last time and this morning CS rep talked me out of it also. They are both basing their opinion on what I said my requirements were.

I only want the best for you. I was a bit cautious about the sliding keyboard, as I was with the LG CU320. I hated the LG, but this is a lot better. I think the tilt screen makes all the difference. If the screen just came straight out and didn't tilt it would be much more difficult for me to use. As far as the touch screen goes, I prefer the touch screen. I guess this is due to me using the TomTom Navigator a lot. You just tap the screen and off you go. Its a lot more comfortable to hold and talk on than my old iPAQ. My only suggested improvement would be that I'd like to be able to set the speakerphone to automatic while the phone is cradled. This would be more convenient for when I have the unit cradled in the car I don't have to hunt to turn on the speakerphone. Maybe I'll just reassign one of the hardware keys to speakerphone. Other than that I'd say its one of the best, if not the best device I've ever had.

-Jay