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Pacer Guy · 01-09-2007, 8:52 PM

Did anyone see where Steve Jobs made the announcement about the new Apple iPhone being exclusive to AT&T's Cingular Network. I caught the story via AP in my local on-line paper. Looks pretty snazzy but a little too steep for my pocket right now. Any other opinions?

Sorry I didn't include the link but I wasn't sure about the legality issues, but it's easy enough to find.

stlguy · 01-09-2007, 11:39 PM

Definitely a major coup for Cingular. As far as the phone goes, I am totally impressed at its design and specs, except for the lack of 3G support. That I don't understand. Since they are touting its function as an "internet communicator", why would they not include 3G, instead of relying on Edge? Makes me wonder. Especially since moving to 3G here, I really don't want to go back to any device that doesn't use it.

Pacer Guy · 01-09-2007, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by stlguy

Definitely a major coup for Cingular. As far as the phone goes, I am totally impressed at its design and specs, except for the lack of 3G support. That I don't understand. Since they are touting its function as an "internet communicator", why would they not include 3G, instead of relying on Edge? Makes me wonder. Especially since moving to 3G here, I really don't want to go back to any device that doesn't use it.

That's exactly right. It does seem like a step in the wrong direction for such an "evolutionary" device.

wildrock · 01-10-2007, 3:39 AM

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Originally Posted by stlguy

Definitely a major coup for Cingular. As far as the phone goes, I am totally impressed at its design and specs, except for the lack of 3G support. That I don't understand. Since they are touting its function as an "internet communicator", why would they not include 3G, instead of relying on Edge? Makes me wonder. Especially since moving to 3G here, I really don't want to go back to any device that doesn't use it.

Apple does not want the iPhone to be the beta phone for the full roll out of the 3g network. That would not be a good combo. So Apple starts a little conservative. they said 3G ws coming in a future phone. We'll just have to wait a bit longer. But it will have WiFi.

clock3687 · 01-10-2007, 5:32 AM

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Originally Posted by wildrock

Apple does not want the iPhone to be the beta phone for the full roll out of the 3g network. That would not be a good combo. So Apple starts a little conservative. they said 3G ws coming in a future phone. We'll just have to wait a bit longer. But it will have WiFi.

Also consider how thin the phone is, apple likes to do the whole form and function thing, so the phone would probably have been thicker than the blackjack (which jobs takes a stab at in the keynote) in order to have 3g. When pushing data over 3g, it will eat your battery up as well. The iPhone doesnt have a removable battery, so your stuck their too. 3g is just too much of a hastle, and probably be in the next iPhone when 3g is fully deployed. With WiFi, i wonder if cingular will offer special data plans with it.

Shizuka · 01-10-2007, 8:21 AM

I also will like it to be a 3G handset, but I agree with wildrock, maybe is not the best move for Apple right now. In the other hand i see it difficult for current 3G users to go back to EDGE or GPRS (unless they realy don't care about data).

walkguru · 01-10-2007, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by clock3687

Also consider how thin the phone is, apple likes to do the whole form and function thing, so the phone would probably have been thicker than the blackjack (which jobs takes a stab at in the keynote) in order to have 3g. When pushing data over 3g, it will eat your battery up as well. The iPhone doesnt have a removable battery, so your stuck their too. 3g is just too much of a hastle, and probably be in the next iPhone when 3g is fully deployed. With WiFi, i wonder if cingular will offer special data plans with it.

i really do like the wifi, but no 3g,

KevinJames · 01-10-2007, 5:06 PM

http://newsnow.att.com/newsnow/att_news/at00000698.html

Alienware_51 · 01-10-2007, 5:55 PM

the wifi thing, is sweet, can you use the WiFi to make calls on????

Jay2TheRescue · 01-10-2007, 6:06 PM

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Originally Posted by wildrock

Apple does not want the iPhone to be the beta phone for the full roll out of the 3g network. That would not be a good combo. So Apple starts a little conservative. they said 3G ws coming in a future phone. We'll just have to wait a bit longer. But it will have WiFi.

Maybe that's why Motorola & Nokia have been holding back and LG & Samsung have jumped in. They don't have anything to loose.

-Jay

walkguru · 01-10-2007, 7:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay2TheRescue

Quote:

Originally Posted by wildrock

Apple does not want the iPhone to be the beta phone for the full roll out of the 3g network. That would not be a good combo. So Apple starts a little conservative. they said 3G ws coming in a future phone. We'll just have to wait a bit longer. But it will have WiFi.

Maybe that's why Motorola & Nokia have been holding back and LG & Samsung have jumped in. They don't have anything to loose.

-Jay

You might have something there jay.

hf1khal · 01-11-2007, 4:59 PM

Actualy Motorola is active on 3 G in teh euro market as well as some others but not here in the US. The one that will be comming on the 3g for us is Razr Maxx. again they still are riding on the backs of the Razr. But I am ot sure about Appple, I just would like to know who is providing the GSM guts of the phone to them, I would not be surprised if it was not Motorola as they have the only ones who have included I tunes on their phones and this could be a colaboration effort between the 2. In addition, this now makes more sense as they have limited the amount of songs one can put o a Moto phone with Itunes and could have been very well a setup for this one.

dmapr · 01-11-2007, 8:11 PM

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Originally Posted by hf1khal

Actualy Motorola is active on 3 G in teh euro market as well as some others but not here in the US. The one that will be comming on the 3g for us is Razr Maxx. again they still are riding on the backs of the Razr. But I am ot sure about Appple, I just would like to know who is providing the GSM guts of the phone to them, I would not be surprised if it was not Motorola as they have the only ones who have included I tunes on their phones and this could be a colaboration effort between the 2. In addition, this now makes more sense as they have limited the amount of songs one can put o a Moto phone with Itunes and could have been very well a setup for this one.

Considering how extremely secretive Apple has been about the iPhone prior to announcement, it may be a while before that info becomes available.

T Sizzles · 01-11-2007, 8:58 PM

No 3G and a $600 price tag? No thanks.

hf1khal · 01-11-2007, 9:45 PM

Does any one think that it could be in there and might just need a software upgrade!

dmapr · 01-11-2007, 9:52 PM

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Originally Posted by hf1khal

Does any one think that it could be in there and might just need a software upgrade!

That won't be the Apple way... I doubt it.

SmArTeStChIlD421 · 01-12-2007, 2:34 PM

thats the only thing this phone needs cuz the OS X operating system is great and its really efficient with memory which will make this phone fast when it comes to response time.........but yeah it really does need 3G and Cingular should take this chance during the AT&T/BellSouth merger to introduce a calling service to make phone calls over WiFi...............some kind of VOiP service.......idk

Fire14 · 01-12-2007, 8:56 PM

Apple: Calling all iPhone engineers

Apple is putting out a call for engineers to join its ranks in an effort to beef up its iPhone.

The hybrid hardware maker is looking to expand its work force, as it seeks to push its iPhone out the door by June. Beyond its hunt for computer geeks and hipster iPod project managers, Apple is listing jobs for a number of software and hardware engineers, as well as quality control testers, for its recently debuted iPhone.

The company is looking to add 33 positions to its iPhone ranks, ranging from electronic engineers to an engineering project manager for its camera feature to a telephony embedded software engineer to develop more middleware features to add to its library.

However, as Apple looks to bolster its brain base on its iPhone project, it's unclear whether it will allocate resources to features in which consumers appear to be most interested. In a recent informal CNET News.com poll on iPhone features, 23 percent of News.com readers found the multitouch interface feature stood out the most, while 14 percent chose full-fledged Mac OS X.

But while Apple is looking to hire an iPhone engineering project manager for its camera feature, less than half a percent of the 6,187 News.com readers who responded to the poll listed that as an outstanding feature.

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9584_22-6...?tag=nl.r28036

KevinJames · 01-15-2007, 8:36 AM

http://www.apple.com/iphone/

hf1khal · 01-15-2007, 12:31 PM

The one thing that ZI see and I don't like is the phone book. One has to scroll down and that could a be a painf when the contact list is close to 1000. I wish they shwed the quick jump to a letter or the ability to type the name in a simmilar fashion like the Blackberry does.

SteveW · 01-15-2007, 3:39 PM

Here's another dose of antidote for the hype, from CNET...

Thirteen reasons to doubt the iPhone hype
by Tim Moynihan

The honeymoon is over for the iPhone.

It's not that we're sick of it already (well, maybe a bit), it's just time for it to answer some questions. Otherwise, it may join the Sony PS3 in the realm of "tech that looks absolutely amazing but is far too expensive for most people to even consider buying."

Here, accompanied by rambling speculation, are those questions:

SW

01-09-2007, 8:52 PM	#1 (permalink)
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01-09-2007, 11:39 PM	#2 (permalink)
stlguy Fresh Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: St. Charles Posts: 20 Phone(s): Treo 680 (work), LG CU500, LG C2000 (wife), Moto L2 (extra phone) Provider(s): AT&T Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Apple's iPhone exclusive to Cingular Definitely a major coup for Cingular. As far as the phone goes, I am totally impressed at its design and specs, except for the lack of 3G support. That I don't understand. Since they are touting its function as an "internet communicator", why would they not include 3G, instead of relying on Edge? Makes me wonder. Especially since moving to 3G here, I really don't want to go back to any device that doesn't use it.

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Shizuka Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: PuertoRico Posts: 94 Phone(s): Nokia Provider(s): AT&T Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Apple's iPhone exclusive to Cingular I also will like it to be a 3G handset, but I agree with wildrock, maybe is not the best move for Apple right now. In the other hand i see it difficult for current 3G users to go back to EDGE or GPRS (unless they realy don't care about data). __________________ SHIZUKA

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hf1khal Who am I to judge Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Ashburn VA Posts: 1,832 Phone(s): iphon3G,Tilt,BB8800,Razr2, BB Pearl & Moto A780 Provider(s): AT&T Mobility, MTC, Wataniya Devices: MP3, GPS & PDA Thanks: 4 Thanked 12 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Apple's iPhone exclusive to Cingular Actualy Motorola is active on 3 G in teh euro market as well as some others but not here in the US. The one that will be comming on the 3g for us is Razr Maxx. again they still are riding on the backs of the Razr. But I am ot sure about Appple, I just would like to know who is providing the GSM guts of the phone to them, I would not be surprised if it was not Motorola as they have the only ones who have included I tunes on their phones and this could be a colaboration effort between the 2. In addition, this now makes more sense as they have limited the amount of songs one can put o a Moto phone with Itunes and could have been very well a setup for this one.

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hf1khal Who am I to judge Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Ashburn VA Posts: 1,832 Phone(s): iphon3G,Tilt,BB8800,Razr2, BB Pearl & Moto A780 Provider(s): AT&T Mobility, MTC, Wataniya Devices: MP3, GPS & PDA Thanks: 4 Thanked 12 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Apple's iPhone exclusive to Cingular Does any one think that it could be in there and might just need a software upgrade!

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SmArTeStChIlD421 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Reading, PA Posts: 3,661 Phone(s): Motorola RAZR V3m (Red) Provider(s): Sprint Thanks: 4 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Apple's iPhone exclusive to Cingular thats the only thing this phone needs cuz the OS X operating system is great and its really efficient with memory which will make this phone fast when it comes to response time.........but yeah it really does need 3G and Cingular should take this chance during the AT&T/BellSouth merger to introduce a calling service to make phone calls over WiFi...............some kind of VOiP service.......idk

01-12-2007, 8:56 PM	#18 (permalink)
Fire14 Easy,Cheap & Sleazy Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Union County NJ Posts: 8,331 Phone(s): Razr V3xx, enV, Adventure, 6010 Provider(s): AT&T, Verizon, T-Mobile ToGo Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Images: 293 My Auctions	Re: Apple's iPhone exclusive to Cingular Apple: Calling all iPhone engineers Apple is putting out a call for engineers to join its ranks in an effort to beef up its iPhone. The hybrid hardware maker is looking to expand its work force, as it seeks to push its iPhone out the door by June. Beyond its hunt for computer geeks and hipster iPod project managers, Apple is listing jobs for a number of software and hardware engineers, as well as quality control testers, for its recently debuted iPhone. The company is looking to add 33 positions to its iPhone ranks, ranging from electronic engineers to an engineering project manager for its camera feature to a telephony embedded software engineer to develop more middleware features to add to its library. However, as Apple looks to bolster its brain base on its iPhone project, it's unclear whether it will allocate resources to features in which consumers appear to be most interested. In a recent informal CNET News.com poll on iPhone features, 23 percent of News.com readers found the multitouch interface feature stood out the most, while 14 percent chose full-fledged Mac OS X. But while Apple is looking to hire an iPhone engineering project manager for its camera feature, less than half a percent of the 6,187 News.com readers who responded to the poll listed that as an outstanding feature. http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9584_22-6...?tag=nl.r28036

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01-15-2007, 12:31 PM	#20 (permalink)
hf1khal Who am I to judge Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Ashburn VA Posts: 1,832 Phone(s): iphon3G,Tilt,BB8800,Razr2, BB Pearl & Moto A780 Provider(s): AT&T Mobility, MTC, Wataniya Devices: MP3, GPS & PDA Thanks: 4 Thanked 12 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Apple's iPhone exclusive to Cingular The one thing that ZI see and I don't like is the phone book. One has to scroll down and that could a be a painf when the contact list is close to 1000. I wish they shwed the quick jump to a letter or the ability to type the name in a simmilar fashion like the Blackberry does.

01-15-2007, 3:39 PM	#21 (permalink)
SteveW Battery mgmt is my life Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Cambridge, MA Posts: 1,468 Phone(s): LG CU500,BlackBerry 8830, Previous: BB 8703e, Nokia 6200, Siemens S46, Ericsson R280LX Provider(s): T-Mobile (personal), Verizon (work) Devices: Palm T2 Thanks: 8 Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts	Re: Apple's iPhone exclusive to Cingular Here's another dose of antidote for the hype, from CNET... Thirteen reasons to doubt the iPhone hype by Tim Moynihan The honeymoon is over for the iPhone. It's not that we're sick of it already (well, maybe a bit), it's just time for it to answer some questions. Otherwise, it may join the Sony PS3 in the realm of "tech that looks absolutely amazing but is far too expensive for most people to even consider buying." Here, accompanied by rambling speculation, are those questions: SW __________________ One Zero: "It is a great pleasure..." Zero One: "...to work on such a large mobile computer." -- Star Trek TNG, Season 1, Ep. 15, (1988)

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