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chuckcha · 11-27-2006, 10:50 PM

What is Cingular's 3G going to support? 2100MHz?

I am trying to decide between SE 790a and 800i. Please advise.

I would appreciate any information!

walkguru · 11-27-2006, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by chuckcha

What is Cingular's 3G going to support? 2100MHz?

I am trying to decide between SE 790a and 800i. Please advise.

I would appreciate any information!

850, and 1900.

chuckcha · 11-27-2006, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by walkguru

850, and 1900.

Thanks for the reply...so the 2100 frequency I would get with K800i would be of no use to me.

I guess my next question would be...how much does one need 850Mhz in a major metro area? Would 1900 suffice? And if it would, would I be able to use 3G features of a K800i with Cingular on the 1900 frequency?

bobolito · 11-27-2006, 11:32 PM

Cingular got some 2100Mhz licenses in the most recent auction. However, we have to be careful when we talk about 2100. There are two types of 2100Mhz for 3G, the one used in Europe (2100/1900Mhz) and the one used in America (2100/1700Mhz).

The 2100Mhz used in Europe is NOT compatible with the 2100Mhz used in America because the uplink frequency used is different. Even though they may overlap at some points they are still incompatible.

So the previous fact remains that the 2100Mhz on your K800i would be of no use to you.

chuckcha · 11-27-2006, 11:59 PM

Thanks for the replies everyone!

It is then either the 790a with the 850/1900 bands...or I have to be patient and wait for Cingular to get more phones...hopefully soon!

CLTX11 · 11-28-2006, 1:04 AM

V3x looks like a pretty neat looking phone. Is there any more info on it yet? What is the average time for "testing?"

I understand that each phone has a different length of testing due to many different factors, but what is the average turn over time?

bobolito · 11-28-2006, 10:16 AM

It's hard to tell an average, but I've noticed it takes a few months. Shouldn't go over 4 or 5 months I think.

Fire14 · 11-30-2006, 8:45 AM

Cingular Rings in Holidays with Blackberry Pearl
Nation's Largest Wireless Carrier Brings to Market Feature-Rich BlackBerry Pearl with Push to Talk, GPS-based Navigation Services

The new BlackBerry® Pearl™ from Research In Motion (RIM) (NASDAQ: RIMM) (TSX: RIM) will arrive on the shelves of select Cingular Wireless stores beginning tomorrow - just in time for the holiday shopping season - with an exclusive look and new features, including Cingular-exclusive Push to Talk (PTT) capabilities and a GPS-based wireless navigation service. Customers can now enjoy the benefits of these new features for the BlackBerry Pearl together with easy-to-use phone, email, organizer and browser applications - all in an incredibly small, light and stylish handset.

The BlackBerry Pearl from Cingular is available for as low as $199.99 with a two-year commitment and after rebates, beginning tomorrow in select Cingular retail stores, on http://www.cingular.com/ and through Cingular's B2B sales organization, and in most Cingular stores nationwide by Monday, December 4. Unlimited corporate email access via BlackBerry is as low as $44.99 a month with a voice contract, or customers who simply need personal email access and web browsing with BlackBerry® Internet Service can choose the BlackBerry Personal plan for as low as $29.99 per month with voice. Unlimited Cingular Push to Talk service is available for an additional monthly charge of $9.99 per device and $19.99 for Push to Talk Family. TeleNav GPS Navigator is available for additional monthly charges of $5.99 for 10 trips and $9.99 for unlimited trips.

hf1khal · 12-03-2006, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Fire14

Cingular Rings in Holidays with Blackberry Pearl
Nation's Largest Wireless Carrier Brings to Market Feature-Rich BlackBerry Pearl with Push to Talk, GPS-based Navigation Services

The new BlackBerry® Pearl™ from Research In Motion (RIM) (NASDAQ: RIMM) (TSX: RIM) will arrive on the shelves of select Cingular Wireless stores beginning tomorrow - just in time for the holiday shopping season - with an exclusive look and new features, including Cingular-exclusive Push to Talk (PTT) capabilities and a GPS-based wireless navigation service. Customers can now enjoy the benefits of these new features for the BlackBerry Pearl together with easy-to-use phone, email, organizer and browser applications - all in an incredibly small, light and stylish handset.

The BlackBerry Pearl from Cingular is available for as low as $199.99 with a two-year commitment and after rebates, beginning tomorrow in select Cingular retail stores, on http://www.cingular.com/ and through Cingular's B2B sales organization, and in most Cingular stores nationwide by Monday, December 4. Unlimited corporate email access via BlackBerry is as low as $44.99 a month with a voice contract, or customers who simply need personal email access and web browsing with BlackBerry® Internet Service can choose the BlackBerry Personal plan for as low as $29.99 per month with voice. Unlimited Cingular Push to Talk service is available for an additional monthly charge of $9.99 per device and $19.99 for Push to Talk Family. TeleNav GPS Navigator is available for additional monthly charges of $5.99 for 10 trips and $9.99 for unlimited trips.

Played around it with it today and I still think RIM should have put the 3G on it. I don't know why Cingular did not push for it.

Fire14 · 12-03-2006, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by hf1khal

Played around it with it today and I still think RIM should have put the 3G on it. I don't know why Cingular did not push for it.

Maybe RIM couldn't do it for them yet, but it would have made this an even better unit. It appears people like this phone.

hf1khal · 12-03-2006, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Fire14

Maybe RIM couldn't do it for them yet, but it would have made this an even better unit. It appears people like this phone.

It is a great phone. We need to keep in mind that RIM has the 8707 which is UMTS and the guts of it is shared between the 8700, 7130 and the 8100 (aka pearl). I don't think it would have been hard for them to put them together into the pearl. One thought in mind is that RIM might think it is not needed as the device is mostly used for email and not like the rest and that it is fast enough for that.

Fire14 · 12-03-2006, 1:00 AM

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Originally Posted by hf1khal

It is a great phone. We need to keep in mind that RIM has the 8707 which is UMTS and the guts of it is shared between the 8700, 7130 and the 8100 (aka pearl). I don't think it would have been hard for them to put them together into the pearl. One thought in mind is that RIM might think it is not needed as the device is mostly used for email and not like the rest and that it is fast enough for that.

That's an excellent point, but it would have been an added selling feature for non-business users.
If I had the use for it, It would be tops on my phone list.

hf1khal · 12-03-2006, 1:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Fire14

That's an excellent point, but it would have been an added selling feature for non-business users.
If I had the use for it, It would be tops on my phone list.

Exactly. The pearl is marketed towards the mases not jsut the business user and that should have been at least UMTS. The Blackjack is a 3g unit and if WM5 gets to be stable RIM could be in for some good competition

gubak · 12-06-2006, 8:47 AM

Realz interesting posts!

iamthatdizzy · 12-06-2006, 1:47 PM

I just got my KRZR from Midwest Wireless. Its an amazing phone. Given, the K1m is a tad diffrent, 1MP cam, but thats it.

I just dropped Cingular because of network issues, but hey, its nice to see their getting this phone!

CLTX11 · 12-18-2006, 7:55 PM

Looked on cingulars website, they do not have the KRZR K1 up yet. Any idea what the price might be with all the discounts, 2 yr contract etc...?

hf1khal · 12-18-2006, 8:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CLTX11

Looked on cingulars website, they do not have the KRZR K1 up yet. Any idea what the price might be with all the discounts, 2 yr contract etc...?

I would say not less than $199. Moto is selling it at around $330 with no contract. Actualy 2 people ordered it yesterday with the discount of 20% and included the BT headset for $279.

CLTX11 · 12-18-2006, 8:20 PM

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Originally Posted by hf1khal

I would say not less than $199. Moto is selling it at around $330 with no contract. Actualy 2 people ordered it yesterday with the discount of 20% and included the BT headset for $279.

I have been with VZ for 4 yrs. Contract is up this Feb. So dont mind the stupid questions, I gotta start somewhere right? My question is.... Best buy has them listed as 79.99 with a contract. What are the repercussions if I signed up through them rather then Cingular. Also does anyone know if a retailer can grant the FAN discounts (government worker discount)

mslabaugh · 12-20-2006, 4:15 AM

What coupon code did they use to get 20% off of the Krzr?

If I buy a Krzr off Moto's website should it work fine with Cingular since they are supposingly getting it?

dmapr · 12-20-2006, 1:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CLTX11

I have been with VZ for 4 yrs. Contract is up this Feb. So dont mind the stupid questions, I gotta start somewhere right? My question is.... Best buy has them listed as 79.99 with a contract. What are the repercussions if I signed up through them rather then Cingular. Also does anyone know if a retailer can grant the FAN discounts (government worker discount)

The fine print of third-party retailers usually stipulates that you can't change anything on your plan for 6 months (or at least go to a lower plan), and have their own ETF in addition to Cingular's. Don't know about FAN.

hf1khal · 12-24-2006, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by mslabaugh

11-27-2006, 10:50 PM	#241 (permalink)
chuckcha Posting up a storm! Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Cingular Phones Coming Soon! * UPDATED 11/16/06 * What is Cingular's 3G going to support? 2100MHz? I am trying to decide between SE 790a and 800i. Please advise. I would appreciate any information!

11-27-2006, 11:32 PM	#244 (permalink)
bobolito iPhone 3G 16GB (White) Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Sanfrakota Posts: 12,378 Phone(s): iPhone 3G, RAZR V9, Sierra 875 3G Aircard, HP iPaq Classic 110 Provider(s): AT&T Mobility Devices: WiFi cards/Access points Thanks: 3 Thanked 11 Times in 10 Posts Images: 50 My Auctions	Re: Cingular Phones Coming Soon! * UPDATED 11/16/06 * Cingular got some 2100Mhz licenses in the most recent auction. However, we have to be careful when we talk about 2100. There are two types of 2100Mhz for 3G, the one used in Europe (2100/1900Mhz) and the one used in America (2100/1700Mhz). The 2100Mhz used in Europe is NOT compatible with the 2100Mhz used in America because the uplink frequency used is different. Even though they may overlap at some points they are still incompatible. So the previous fact remains that the 2100Mhz on your K800i would be of no use to you. __________________

11-27-2006, 11:59 PM	#245 (permalink)
chuckcha Posting up a storm! Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Cingular Phones Coming Soon! * UPDATED 11/16/06 * Thanks for the replies everyone! It is then either the 790a with the 850/1900 bands...or I have to be patient and wait for Cingular to get more phones...hopefully soon!

11-28-2006, 1:04 AM	#246 (permalink)
CLTX11 Fresh Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 18 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Cingular Phones Coming Soon! * UPDATED 11/16/06 * V3x looks like a pretty neat looking phone. Is there any more info on it yet? What is the average time for "testing?" I understand that each phone has a different length of testing due to many different factors, but what is the average turn over time?

11-28-2006, 10:16 AM	#247 (permalink)
bobolito iPhone 3G 16GB (White) Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Sanfrakota Posts: 12,378 Phone(s): iPhone 3G, RAZR V9, Sierra 875 3G Aircard, HP iPaq Classic 110 Provider(s): AT&T Mobility Devices: WiFi cards/Access points Thanks: 3 Thanked 11 Times in 10 Posts Images: 50 My Auctions	Re: Cingular Phones Coming Soon! * UPDATED 11/16/06 * It's hard to tell an average, but I've noticed it takes a few months. Shouldn't go over 4 or 5 months I think. __________________

11-30-2006, 8:45 AM	#248 (permalink)
Fire14 Easy,Cheap & Sleazy Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Union County NJ Posts: 8,331 Phone(s): Razr V3xx, enV, Adventure, 6010 Provider(s): AT&T, Verizon, T-Mobile ToGo Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Images: 293 My Auctions	Re: Cingular Phones Coming Soon! * UPDATED 11/16/06 * Cingular Rings in Holidays with Blackberry Pearl Nation's Largest Wireless Carrier Brings to Market Feature-Rich BlackBerry Pearl with Push to Talk, GPS-based Navigation Services The new BlackBerry® Pearl™ from Research In Motion (RIM) (NASDAQ: RIMM) (TSX: RIM) will arrive on the shelves of select Cingular Wireless stores beginning tomorrow - just in time for the holiday shopping season - with an exclusive look and new features, including Cingular-exclusive Push to Talk (PTT) capabilities and a GPS-based wireless navigation service. Customers can now enjoy the benefits of these new features for the BlackBerry Pearl together with easy-to-use phone, email, organizer and browser applications - all in an incredibly small, light and stylish handset. The BlackBerry Pearl from Cingular is available for as low as $199.99 with a two-year commitment and after rebates, beginning tomorrow in select Cingular retail stores, on http://www.cingular.com/ and through Cingular's B2B sales organization, and in most Cingular stores nationwide by Monday, December 4. Unlimited corporate email access via BlackBerry is as low as $44.99 a month with a voice contract, or customers who simply need personal email access and web browsing with BlackBerry® Internet Service can choose the BlackBerry Personal plan for as low as $29.99 per month with voice. Unlimited Cingular Push to Talk service is available for an additional monthly charge of $9.99 per device and $19.99 for Push to Talk Family. TeleNav GPS Navigator is available for additional monthly charges of $5.99 for 10 trips and $9.99 for unlimited trips.

12-06-2006, 8:47 AM	#254 (permalink)
gubak Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 65 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Cingular Phones Coming Soon! * UPDATED 11/16/06 * Realz interesting posts!

12-06-2006, 1:47 PM	#255 (permalink)
iamthatdizzy Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Rochester Posts: 69 Phone(s): KRZR K1m, UTStarcom 6600/Treo 650, Samsung D807, Nokia 6111, MotoRAZR V3, LG VX6000 Provider(s): Midwest Wireless Devices: iPod, iBook Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Cingular Phones Coming Soon! * UPDATED 7/19/06 * I just got my KRZR from Midwest Wireless. Its an amazing phone. Given, the K1m is a tad diffrent, 1MP cam, but thats it. I just dropped Cingular because of network issues, but hey, its nice to see their getting this phone! Last edited by bobolito; 12-26-2006 at 10:38 PM.

12-18-2006, 7:55 PM	#256 (permalink)
CLTX11 Fresh Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 18 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Cingular Phones Coming Soon! * UPDATED 11/16/06 * Looked on cingulars website, they do not have the KRZR K1 up yet. Any idea what the price might be with all the discounts, 2 yr contract etc...?

12-20-2006, 4:15 AM	#259 (permalink)
mslabaugh I have arrived! Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Cingular Phones Coming Soon! * UPDATED 11/16/06 * What coupon code did they use to get 20% off of the Krzr? If I buy a Krzr off Moto's website should it work fine with Cingular since they are supposingly getting it?

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