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[Airb330]

Originally Posted by Gideon H

We have that phone on tmobile...

We (Cingular) need something like the v360 on T-Mobile. You could read what I wrote a few different ways

[Fire14]

I saw in today's Best Buy circular that they have the LG CE500 as an exclusive thru Best Buy.
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=778

And it looks like Samsung is coming out with some new phones for Cingular soon including a PTT version, see the news article from Samsung here on Phonescoop, it's down the page some for Wednesday.
http://www.phonescoop.com/

[Tony E!]

I used to like LG phones but lately i think they're falling behind style wise, i guess with their GSM versions that's always been the case imo..

Thanks for the update Fire14...

[bobolito]

I could've sworn I put the Samsung PTT phone pictures here already....anyway, here they are:


Samsung D357:

Cingular's second phone for the PTT launch. Supposedly everything is ready. It will launch this week!




SPECS:
Modes GSM 850 / GSM 1800 / GSM 1900
Weight 3.46 oz (98 g)
Dimensions 3.40" x 1.80" x 0.96" (86 x 46 x 24 mm)
Battery Life Talk: 5.00 hours (300 minutes)
Standby: 200 hours (8.3 days)
Battery Type LiIon 800 mAh
Display Type: LCD (Color TFT/TFD)
Colors: 65,536 (16-bit)
Size: 128 x 160 pixels
Platform / OS (N/A)
Memory ?
Phone Book Capacity 1000
External Display greyscale LCD / 96 x 64 pixels
Alarm
Bluetooth supports headset and handsfree profiles
Calculator plus currency converter
Calendar
Custom Graphics
Custom Ringtones supports MIDI, MP3 formats
Digital TTY/TDD
Email Client Protocols Supported: POP3, IMAP4, SMTP
EMS / Picture Messaging
Games Yes
Headset Jack (2.5 mm) Yes
High-Speed Data Technology: EGPRS (EDGE)
Java (J2ME) Version: MIDP 2.0
supported JSRs: 120, 135, 185 / 300 KB max. application size; 2 MB total
MMS SMIL / 100 KB max. message size
Multiple Languages Languages Supported: English, French, Spanish
Multiple Numbers per Name
Picture ID
Ringer ID
Polyphonic Ringtones Chords: 64
Predictive Text Entry Technology: T9
Cingular Push-To-Talk (Kodiak)
Speaker Phone
Text Messaging 2-Way plus IM
Text Messaging Templates
To-Do List
Vibrate mode
Voice Dialing
Voice Memo
Wireless Internet WAP 2.0 / supports WML 1.3, XHTML, CSS

CINGULAR'S PRICE:
249.99 no commitment
199.99 1 year
149.99 2 year

50.00 mail in rebate as of 11/15

[bobolito]

Christopher Price of PCSIntel.com reports that four new UMTS 3G phones are coming very soon for Cingular's lineup. They could be out as early as December, but as we all know, things usually get pushed back so I would place a safer bet on seeing these early next year.

-Nokia N80


Nokia N80 specs:
UMTS 1900 / GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
Size Dimensions 95 x 50 x 23 mm
Weight 133 g
Display Type TFT, 256K colors
Size 352 x 416 pixels
Ringtones Type Polyphonic (64 channels), Monophonic, True Tones, MP3
Vibration
Memory Phonebook
Card slot miniSD, (up to 2GB), hot swap
40 MB internal memory
Features OS S60 3rd edition (Symbian OS , Series 60 UI)
GPRS Class 10 (4+1/3+2 slots)
Data speed 384 kbps (WCDMA), 236.8 kbps (EDGE)
Messaging SMS, MMS, Email, Instant Messaging
Clock, Alarm
Infrared port
Games Java downloadable
Camera 3 MP, 2048x1536 pixels, video(CIF), flash
- Wireless LAN (Wi-Fi)
- UPnP technology
- Bluetooth
- Java MIDP 2.0
- MP3/AAC player
- xHTML/HTML browser
- USB port
- Stereo FM Radio
- T9
- Voice command/memo
- PIM including calendar, to-do list
Standard battery, Li-Ion
Stand-by Up to 200 h
Talk time Up to 3 h


-Nokia 6282


Nokia 6282 specs:
UMTS 2100/1900, EDGE/GSM 900/1800/1900, 2.2 inches" 262k color QVGA display, GPRS, USB 2.0, MiniSD, 2 megapixel camera, and apparently even Bluetooth 2.0 +EDR


-Samsung ZX10



Samsung ZX10 specs:
UMTS 1900 (non-HSDPA), GSM 850/1900?? 1.3 megapixel camera, microSD memory card slot, streaming video and MP3 player.



-LG CU230



SPECIFICATIONS:

Modes: GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/1900; UMTS 850/1900
Bluetooth
1.3 megapixel camera (swivels back and forth)
Transflash memory slot (up to 256MB)
MP3 Player

[ShoresGuy]

Originally Posted by bobolito

Christopher Price of PCSIntel.com reports that four new UMTS 3G phones are coming very soon for Cingular's lineup. They could be out as early as December, but as we all know, things usually get pushed back so I would place a safer bet on seeing these early next year.

-Nokia 6282


Nokia 6282 specs:
UMTS 2100/1900, EDGE/GSM 900/1800/1900, 2.2 inches" 262k color QVGA display, GPRS, USB 2.0, MiniSD, 2 megapixel camera, and apparently even Bluetooth 2.0 +EDR

Cool, the 1st quint band phone. I wouldn't have expected to see Nokia introduce the first UMTS 1900/2100 capable phone. I wonder how long it'll be until we see it here in Germany.

[Fire14]

I like the looks of the Samsung D357,(almost looks like a Moto V60) and being a PTT phone is nice, that's what they need to come out with is more then 2 phones for the release to get more interest in the service.
I do hope they release the PTT soon, I am real interested in seeing some reports on how well it works, in case it's something I would get if I ever migrate.

Thanks for the additional pictures and info bobolito, I like the looks of the future.

[bobolito]

Yep....it looks like Cingular is really building out a real wireless company this time. I think Cingular's phone lineup is definitely the best right now. And this is just the start! Besides phones, I hear several other surprises coming which many of you probably already heard of such as a new MediaNet interface, MobiRadio, AnswerTones, OLAM restrict, GPS, to name a few.

[Gideon H]

Wow... these phones really are tempting. Cingular has until July 2006 to become perfect so I can be confident about switching

[ShoresGuy]

I wonder how T-Mobile will respond to the Cingular introduction of the 6282 and to their new lineup in general. There are several models (especially the 6282) which you can bet will also be carried by T-Mobile.

[Gideon H]

Ok so UMTS 850 does exist? Why, exactly? Are the two going to be distributed equally throughout the markets or differently and thus the phones need both bands...

[CWick]

Originally Posted by Gideon H

Only Motorola can cause that much confusion...

agreed...they have about 74 version of the V60. Didn't they start using upper and lower case when they ran out of letters? V60Kc

[bobolito]

Originally Posted by Gideon H

Ok so UMTS 850 does exist? Why, exactly? Are the two going to be distributed equally throughout the markets or differently and thus the phones need both bands...

As always carriers will broadcast in the bands they are licensed to use. Just like GSM, TDMA, CDMA, etc. UMTS will be 850 where GSM is 850. At the same time, UMTS will be 1900 where GSM is 1900. And if GSM is both 850 and 1900 in your area, then UMTS will be both 850 and 1900 as well. So, yes your phone will need both 850 and 1900.

In the beginning, though, you might see UMTS in one band and then expand into the second band. But the plan is to have UMTS in both bands anywhere Cingular has license for both bands.

[Gabriel]

but can UMTS work on 850Mhz?

i mean, european UMTS systems work on 2100Mhz, if im not mistaken, because the higher number of cycles per second make it better for high speed data transfer.

besides, wouldnt UMTS 850 and 1900 interfere with GSM in those bands?

[ShoresGuy]

Why not? UMTS is just another add-on technology which will use existing GSM sites. UMTS in the US and Europe/Asia uses 1700-2025 Mhz (1885 Mhz-2025 Mhz) as the uplink frequencies. Europe and Asia have 2110-2200 Mhz as the downlink frequencies. The US downlink frequencies will be at 2100 Mhz but it's not available at the moment. So the FCC allocated 1910-1920 and 1995-2000 Mhz as the downlink frequencies in the former MSS (Mobile Satellite Service) slots.

http://www.unstrung.com/document.asp?doc_id=59120



The real limitation is the amount of available spectrum in the US. In Europe and Asia, UMTS is more flexible since they don't need to share the 2100 Mhz band with GSM 900/1800.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS#Technology
http://www.umtsworld.com/technology/frequencies.htm
http://www.umtsworld.com/umts/faq.htm#f4
http://www.umtsworld.com/umts/faq.htm#f11

[Gideon H]

Oh wow thanks for that, bobo

[bobolito]

UMTS will work on any frequency you put it on. You just have to clear out the space so that it doesn't interfere with GSM. For instance, UMTS 850 can be using a 10Mhz space of the 25Mhz total space allocated at 850Mhz. The remaining 15Mhz can be allocated for GSM. This way there is no interference.

[Gideon H]

Why do we have reseved space over in the 2100MHz range?

[ShoresGuy]

Looks like it used to be reserved for a mobile telecommunications service which won't be used after all. It would be great if the FCC put some UMTS up there as well since for once the frequencies would be compatible with other parts of the world.

[Tony E!]

Are we still on for the end of the year release on this one?

Originally Posted by bobolito

Motorola V3i

New RAZR coming to Cingular!
If everything goes well, we'll have it before the end of the year.




SOME NEW FEATURES (over the old RAZR):
- MicroSD slot (Transflash)
- 1.23MP camera with 8x zoom & video capture
- Larger external display with 65K colors
- Speaker-independent name & digit voice dialing
- iTunes MP3 player
- Mini-USB stereo headset
- SCREEN3 Active Screen Technology (display news ticker on your home screen)
- Airplane mode

EVERYTHING ELSE IS THE SAME:
- Quad-band GSM/GPRS
- 2.09 x 3.86 x 0.55 inches (13.97mm)
- 176 x 220, 262K color TFT display
- Etc.


You got it: NO EDGE!

[CWick]

Originally Posted by Tony E

Are we still on for the end of the year release on this one?

I hope so...will help drive the price down of the current black Razr. I am getting very ansi.

[bobolito]

I haven't heard of any pushbacks on the V3i, but you never know.

[0oLakeShoreo0]

Great thread, I think the CE500 is great for people who want a solid phone with a few great features - the MP3 player is supposed to be sweet w/ skins and everything...

[Jay2TheRescue]

Originally Posted by CWick

I hope so...will help drive the price down of the current black Razr. I am getting very ansi.

With 2 new GSM Razr models being released they might just discontinue it rather than lower the price.

[Fire14]

Originally Posted by CWick

I hope so...will help drive the price down of the current black Razr. I am getting very ansi.

I have been starting to look into getting 1 myself if the prices come down enough, so I am with you here.

[Jay2TheRescue]

Originally Posted by Fire14

I have been starting to look into getting 1 myself if the prices come down enough, so I am with you here.

I wanted a V3, but now the V3x is calling my name. I wonder how much its going to cost?

[jfxf]

bobolito:
i have always valued your opinion over the years.
my first two years at vzw are over and i'm coming back to cingular for the w600. i'm digging to find complaints, but i dont see 'em.
any downsides/complaints out there on this one?
thanks

[bobolito]

Seems like a great phone. The only complaints I've heard are really minor and quite subjective such as the keys being flat against the phone making it a bit hard to dial without looking at it; or that the orange color doesn't appeal to them, or some complain that the phone doesn't have removable memory because 256MB is not enough for them! Go figure. My phone has the Transflash with 128MB and that's more than enough for me.

However, the REALLY IMPORTANT features seem like they work right, such as the sound level and quality, signal reception, the menu speed, software reliability/robustness, ease of use and battery life. They are all great.

[Airb330]

Originally Posted by bobolito

However, the REALLY IMPORTANT features seem like they work right, such as the sound level and quality, signal reception, the menu speed, software reliability/robustness, ease of use and battery life. They are all great.

Hopefully it's better than the s710a's signal reception and menu speed. The phone would randomly have 1 bar and just generally OK reception. The menu speed was awful though and is the reason I dumped the phone. Hopefully Sony improved these aspects on the w600. The 'handle' antenna may have already solved one.

[bobolito]

Oh yes! The menu speed is awesome on the z520! It does get stuck sometimes when the phone is really busy, like when you are in a phone call and at the same time you try to go in the menus to do other things, it does get laggy, but if you wait it comes back to normal eventually. Just like a computer. It depends on what you're doing. But Web browsing is also very comfortably fast. The browser in Motorolas is just painfully slow.

But for the most part, the phone beats the Motorolas in all battery life, sound quality and menu speed by a large margin! The only problem is non-standard headset port, and you can't hack it to disable the poor quality Half Rate codec. Another problem I've found is that CSD is so difficult to get it working on the z520, but it does work sometimes. CSD is much more reliable in the Motorolas.