is alltel disclosing ?

[army1]

i was just wondering if alltel was disclosing that it had been
bought out by vzw to new customers before they sign?

[RJB]

Originally Posted by army1

i was just wondering if alltel was disclosing that it had been
bought out by vzw to new customers before they sign?

I dont think they will until it actually has been approved.

[army1]

but don't you think it would be the right thing to do?
just to let them know that there is a good possiblity
of this, so the customer can decide?

[Mobile Mike]

Originally Posted by RJB

I dont think they will until it actually has been approved.

True, because nothing has changed.

Originally Posted by army1

but don't you think it would be the right thing to do?
just to let them know that there is a good possiblity
of this, so the customer can decide?

Who's to say it isn't already being mentioned. The buyout intent is official, but the change in ownership isn't. This is no different than when Cingular bought AT&T Wireless and Sprint bought Nextel. Also, not every new or existing Alltel customer has a beef with Verizon.

[spleck]

Originally Posted by Mobile Mike

Also, not every new or existing Alltel customer has a beef with Verizon.

LOL. Are you sure? It seems like enough of them do...

If you don't use a lot of plan minutes and don't need My Circle, then you're not losing much and gaining native coverage in a lot of places.

[Mobile Mike]

Originally Posted by spleck

LOL. Are you sure? It seems like enough of them do...

If you don't use a lot of plan minutes and don't need My Circle, then you're not losing much and gaining native coverage in a lot of places.

Just because a lot of people complain about Verizon, here on this site, doesn't mean EVERY Alltel customer has an issue with the merger or with Verizon in general.

This whole nonsense of carrier bashing, whether ambiguous or outright, gets really old after a while. Sprint has been clobbered to death on this forum. Yes, a lot of people have had problems with them, but not everyone does. The same is true for Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile, and YES Alltel as well.

Granted what draws many of us to Wireless Advisor is our enjoyment and interest in the world of Mobile phones. That being said, many of us know a lot more about the goings on in the business because we follow news that affects it. So there will be more passionate opinions toward a carrier, good and bad.

I believe Alltel is an excellent company, especially for a small regional carrier with a large geographic footprint (even though they aren't available in MANY major markets). Alltel's size allowed them to do what they've done and create a well regarded carrier. Having only 13 million customers enables this. What it seem few Alltel fanboys/girls fail to realize (or accept) is their beloved carrier SOLD OUT. Not once, but twice. So why is this proposed merger such a surprise?

Verizon saw an opportunity to grow. They're greedy, but so are AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile, and Alltel's current owners! The last time I check, so are a million other companies out there. It's all about money, plain and simple (no matter how cleverly disguised it is).

I hold NO illusions about Verizon. They're big, unruly, controlling, and occasionally annoying, but they've served me well for a VERY long time. I'm happy with them, but I don't love them. If they start messing with me, then I'll go elsewhere. That's the freedom of choice AND another reason why I won't tie myself down to one carrier, but again, it's MY choice. This is something WE ALL HAVE in this country.

[KyleAndMelissa22]

I'll be happy as long as Alltel's features live on,
But the uncertainty with Alltel at this moment makes me worried, thats my only problem.

[walkguru]

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I belive they should disclose because it is important information.

[bikebryan]

Originally Posted by walkguru

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I belive they should disclose because it is important information.

As mentioned, they will 'disclose' it when it needs to be 'disclosed.' NOTHING is official yet so there is nothing to disclose. Besides, this has been all over the news. It is up to the customer to do a little research on their prospective wireless carrier.

I love people who leave and tell me "I'll go to Verizon they are better anyway." I just want to tell them "fine, see you again in several months" just to see their reaction.

[RJB]

Originally Posted by Mobile Mike

Just because a lot of people complain about Verizon, here on this site, doesn't mean EVERY Alltel customer has an issue with the merger or with Verizon in general.

This whole nonsense of carrier bashing, whether ambiguous or outright, gets really old after a while. Sprint has been clobbered to death on this forum. Yes, a lot of people have had problems with them, but not everyone does. The same is true for Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile, and YES Alltel as well.

Granted what draws many of us to Wireless Advisor is our enjoyment and interest in the world of Mobile phones. That being said, many of us know a lot more about the goings on in the business because we follow news that affects it. So there will be more passionate opinions toward a carrier, good and bad.

I believe Alltel is an excellent company, especially for a small regional carrier with a large geographic footprint (even though they aren't available in MANY major markets). Alltel's size allowed them to do what they've done and create a well regarded carrier. Having only 13 million customers enables this. What it seem few Alltel fanboys/girls fail to realize (or accept) is their beloved carrier SOLD OUT. Not once, but twice. So why is this proposed merger such a surprise?

Verizon saw an opportunity to grow. They're greedy, but so are AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile, and Alltel's current owners! The last time I check, so are a million other companies out there. It's all about money, plain and simple (no matter how cleverly disguised it is).

I hold NO illusions about Verizon. They're big, unruly, controlling, and occasionally annoying, but they've served me well for a VERY long time. I'm happy with them, but I don't love them. If they start messing with me, then I'll go elsewhere. That's the freedom of choice AND another reason why I won't tie myself down to one carrier, but again, it's MY choice. This is something WE ALL HAVE in this country.

Mike wow this is very well said I to am getting tired of the frantic "why does verizon have to do this to us". You know this is a two way street alltel decided to sell so why not put a 50/50 blame on them. You know the old saying it takes two to tango. It is not like Verizon put them in a head lock and forced them to sell or else.

Look what ATT and Cingular did Merged, Sprint Nextel merged. This just happens good and bad things came from them but just chill and take it easy. I mean at the end of the day this is a mobile phone and network there are more important things to stress over. trust me.

[spleck]

Also consider the 67 million VZW customers. VZW makes money because their customers are willing to pay them for the services they provide. Buying Alltel is in the interest of those 67 million customers that are paying a premium to have a large network.

[Eric47]

the writing was on the wall. im with mike. everyone at the Alltel camp around here needs to take a chill pill.

[MOTOhooligan]

I'm sure there's an announcement coming soon. They'll probably send letters to their customers announcing the proposed merger and then another letter (or, more likely, a packet of information) when the merger is approved and the two companies actually start merging.

The Alltel reps I've spoken to know about the possible merger but don't have a whole lot of information. When asked about it, they don't deny it but are quick to point out that it hasn't been approved yet and, for the time being, nothing will change.

[army1]

Originally Posted by walkguru

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I belive they should disclose because it is important information.

i agree, thats why i started this topic, and they are not doing it, at least here,
and yes i know this for sure, i sent my sister in they discussed everything
from phones, to plans to terms of service, rebates, credit check, she got to the point
of signing (but didn't) nothing was said about vzw.

[MOTOhooligan]

Originally Posted by army1

she got to the point
of signing (but didn't) nothing was said about vzw.

I don't think they will ever mention it in that situation until the merger is 100% approved. I think if someone asked they would tell them what they knew but I think that could cause more confusion that it's worth, especially if, for some reason, the merger were not approved.

Until the merger is approved, Verizon and Alltel have to continue on as two separate companies. That's a legal requirement. I think if Alltel reps start telling people, "We're going to be Verizon soon," there are huge legal ramifications to that.

Even if they said, "Verizon has agreed to purchase Alltel but currently we're two separate companies pending regulatory approval," people would still take that to mean "Verizon bought Alltel." You can't make everyone happy and Alltel, like most carriers in this position, is erring on the side of caution.

[Mobile Mike]

Originally Posted by MOTOhooligan

I don't think they will ever mention it in that situation until the merger is 100% approved. I think if someone asked they would tell them what they knew but I think that could cause more confusion that it's worth, especially if, for some reason, the merger were not approved.

Until the merger is approved, Verizon and Alltel have to continue on as two separate companies. That's a legal requirement. I think if Alltel reps start telling people, "We're going to be Verizon soon," there are huge legal ramifications to that.

Even if they said, "Verizon has agreed to purchase Alltel but currently we're two separate companies pending regulatory approval," people would still take that to mean "Verizon bought Alltel." You can't make everyone happy and Alltel, like most carriers in this position, is erring on the side of caution.

Well said!

[army1]

Originally Posted by MOTOhooligan

I don't think they will ever mention it in that situation until the merger is 100% approved. I think if someone asked they would tell them what they knew but I think that could cause more confusion that it's worth, especially if, for some reason, the merger were not approved.

Until the merger is approved, Verizon and Alltel have to continue on as two separate companies. That's a legal requirement. I think if Alltel reps start telling people, "We're going to be Verizon soon," there are huge legal ramifications to that.

Even if they said, "Verizon has agreed to purchase Alltel but currently we're two separate companies pending regulatory approval," people would still take that to mean "Verizon bought Alltel." You can't make everyone happy and Alltel, like most carriers in this position, is erring on the side of caution.

i understand what you are saying, and i am mad at alltel for this part,
i just think that they should tell the customer before they sign, that there is
a possiblity that vzw will being buying alltel out, that way the customer signes
knowing the facts, to me that would just be the right thing to do for the customer.

[strunke]

I'm not really "mad" at either. I just don't want to spend more for the same or less service. Which is a fact for almost all the current Alltel customers if they are not allowed to keep their features and/or my circle.

You cannot blame people for being mad and voicing their opinions about Verizon and their high prices.

[army1]

Originally Posted by strunke

I'm not really "mad" at either. I just don't want to spend more for the same or less service. Which is a fact for almost all the current Alltel customers if they are not allowed to keep their features and/or my circle.

You cannot blame people for being mad and voicing their opinions about Verizon and their high prices.

well i'm sorry to say if we stay we will all be paying more and getting less
it's right there on vzw website what the price's are, and what you get.